Sonokoi, Jihanki de Kaemasuka? - Vol. 1 Ch. 6
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Actual bi-identifying character in BL! Super rare.
He got asked out by a guy, but thought the guy might have been straight...
I can’t tell if that’s just BL logic or what?
I get being scared if you do know someone has been only been in hetero relationships before. That was an anxiety when my wife and I started dating. We talked about it and she had just been awakening to her sexuality recently but didn’t understand how she managed to dated guys before.
Good conversation to have. Better than just hoping silently.
But he was asked out, and didn’t know if the guy was into guys... 🤔
He got asked out by a guy, but thought the guy might have been straight...
I can’t tell if that’s just BL logic or what?
I get being scared if you do know someone has been only been in hetero relationships before. That was an anxiety when my wife and I started dating. We talked about it and she had just been awakening to her sexuality recently but didn’t understand how she managed to dated guys before.
Good conversation to have. Better than just hoping silently.
But he was asked out, and didn’t know if the guy was into guys... 🤔
@CashRoot
It's definitely an annoying yaoi trope but I've also watched a documentary once in which a Japanese gay man described his hookups as "straight guys". I think that in Japan, what we would call "closeted" or "down low" gay guys tend to be just refered to as straight guys.
So if someone is already married or is also attracted to women, they'll call him straight even if he dates men/has sex with men.
It also explains the biphobia in yaoi. Very often they'll call bisexual people "straight", because they believe they will eventually settle down with a woman and keep having sex with men on the side.
There's a strongly rooted idea that "straight" guys are undatable because they engage with gay men out of curiosity and will inevitably dump them for a woman.
It's definitely an annoying yaoi trope but I've also watched a documentary once in which a Japanese gay man described his hookups as "straight guys". I think that in Japan, what we would call "closeted" or "down low" gay guys tend to be just refered to as straight guys.
So if someone is already married or is also attracted to women, they'll call him straight even if he dates men/has sex with men.
It also explains the biphobia in yaoi. Very often they'll call bisexual people "straight", because they believe they will eventually settle down with a woman and keep having sex with men on the side.
There's a strongly rooted idea that "straight" guys are undatable because they engage with gay men out of curiosity and will inevitably dump them for a woman.
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@Somewoman
That’s the impression I’ve gotten as well.
Last time I was in Japan a bi friend and I (who, at the time thought I was pan. Nope. Girls. Super 100% gay) were in nichoume and she told me not to tell anyone for that reason.
I just didn’t know they’d call you straight... but the term for it is nonke, which is a portmanteau of “non” from English and “kei” for “type”. So, “not that way”.
Us and them mentality.
This is what happens when homophobia is rampant and you can lose your job and home and shet.
Hopefully the reduction in homophobia in Japan helps.
That’s the impression I’ve gotten as well.
Last time I was in Japan a bi friend and I (who, at the time thought I was pan. Nope. Girls. Super 100% gay) were in nichoume and she told me not to tell anyone for that reason.
I just didn’t know they’d call you straight... but the term for it is nonke, which is a portmanteau of “non” from English and “kei” for “type”. So, “not that way”.
Us and them mentality.
This is what happens when homophobia is rampant and you can lose your job and home and shet.
Hopefully the reduction in homophobia in Japan helps.
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@CashRoot
I think that were are a lot of misconception with bisexuality so it's just normal that people would get confused and think that it's just a phase (let's admit that to some people it is a pathway to being straight or gay) or someone hiding their ''true sexuality'' (let's applaud to those women who tell men that they are bi just to look hotter or teens who thinks that being ''queer'' makes them special). In other words we need better information and real life studies and characters who's sexualities wouldn't be a center of attention, you know, making them like normal people.
I personally get shit for not attending pride and all that jazz. I just don't see point because I want more research and discussions instead of going around with glitter. The only thing that bisexuality adds to me is that my dating pool is bigger. I am an average person, nothing special about me.
I think that were are a lot of misconception with bisexuality so it's just normal that people would get confused and think that it's just a phase (let's admit that to some people it is a pathway to being straight or gay) or someone hiding their ''true sexuality'' (let's applaud to those women who tell men that they are bi just to look hotter or teens who thinks that being ''queer'' makes them special). In other words we need better information and real life studies and characters who's sexualities wouldn't be a center of attention, you know, making them like normal people.
I personally get shit for not attending pride and all that jazz. I just don't see point because I want more research and discussions instead of going around with glitter. The only thing that bisexuality adds to me is that my dating pool is bigger. I am an average person, nothing special about me.
@Wolfg
I get all that. Especially not going to Pride things. Too much noise, too sexualised (not everything needs to be horny and cartoonish) etc.
I do love me some pride on a small scale. Bumper stickers, t-shirts, hats, watching She Ra...
Most of that is just visibility. “Hi. We exist. You can’t stop it.”
I wake up next to my wife and say “FUCK, I’m glad I’m gay!” and kiss her.
And yeah, I tried dating a guy once and it didn’t go super far because I... couldn’t.
he turned out to be a racist, anyway, so he can go piss his pants.
So I get that it’s not always for real, but SOMETIMES IT IS. There are other reasons for breaking up as well. That’s just one of infinite.
“Their next relationship was hetero, so they’re straight.” Or the reverse. Whatever. Either way it’s stupid.
Point is that people should just... date who they want. Or not.
Bah.
I get all that. Especially not going to Pride things. Too much noise, too sexualised (not everything needs to be horny and cartoonish) etc.
I do love me some pride on a small scale. Bumper stickers, t-shirts, hats, watching She Ra...
Most of that is just visibility. “Hi. We exist. You can’t stop it.”
I wake up next to my wife and say “FUCK, I’m glad I’m gay!” and kiss her.
And yeah, I tried dating a guy once and it didn’t go super far because I... couldn’t.
he turned out to be a racist, anyway, so he can go piss his pants.
So I get that it’s not always for real, but SOMETIMES IT IS. There are other reasons for breaking up as well. That’s just one of infinite.
“Their next relationship was hetero, so they’re straight.” Or the reverse. Whatever. Either way it’s stupid.
Point is that people should just... date who they want. Or not.
Bah.
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love me a bi boi, what a pleasant surprise
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Agreed. Super nice and casual "I'm bi" thrown in there. Very refreshing to see two characters aware of their own sexuality and self identify as it in a BL and then go out with each other after some clumsy dating.
Very sweet story
Very sweet story
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