Sousou no Frieren - Vol. 12 Ch. 117 - Miraculous Illusion

[havelmom]

this is such a bad arc
time traveling is always horrible unless you can truly pull off a genius plot
there are no stakes here, we have seen Himmel dying of old age, they have killed the big boss demon
but maybe the mangaka just wanted to draw some chapters of the legendary party, could have done it differently IMO, as a tale or just remembering things

 

[feha]

I bet he sees through the illusion because how rediculous it is to him.

Yeah. Probably something like "I would never curse her with living eternity mourning a loved one, which is why I know I wouldn't have confessed and that this is fake", or something along those lines.

Or more likely, freiren simply has a magic running that counters him and his antiquated magic

 

[kybong1]

This chapter is truly sublime!

 

[lovolo]

Not fair, it's just pain all the way down

 

[LucidDayDreamer]

She was offered a tome containing magic for flipping pancakes when they're perfectly cooked.

Idk how that connects to the dress

 

[artyom]

THIS IS WORST CASE SCENARIO!!!

 

[tigerstar186]

The early chapters actually made me expect something more like those traveller human drama stories (like Kino's Journey or Elaina), where the war is finally over, and through Frieren we see how the world marches on.

But then it became another hero's journey to defeat enemy.

That's definitely another frustration of mine that I didn't specify here: I didn't come here for a battle shounen. Having conflict is fine but every arc being "welp time to fight something" is really irritating me. I don't need the series to be entirely episodic, development and progress is fine, but I feel like I'm reading a distinctly different series from what I started with and I'm not satisfied with the change.

 

[lightingcloud]

I hope all be well.

Also please Author dont pull up the infamous writer's amnesia trope, cs you literally gave us an arc where our elf deciphered Di Agolze. Meaning our elf can transmute these peebles into gold and reverted them back by a mere whim and will. Dont fucking play with us all.

I'm not sure it's that easy, maybe it requires to much mana to use

 

[AnotherDuck]

Idk how that connects to the dress

It connects to the lengths she'd go to get hold of spells that do weird and usually very niche things.

 

[LadyTyche]

Ugh, I'm really ready for this arc to be over. I don't like time travel stuff -- especially so when it isn't the central conceit of the series so only part of the plot is built around it. The only way this ends is either the future is completely unchanged which makes any threats presented impotent, or the future gets changed which makes all the time we've spent before the time travel weaker because it gets overwritten. We already had a method to explore the past in the form of Frieren's and other people's memories of them. Was going to the past for an extended period of time really necessary?

It also makes it feel like this series is all about Frieren. The framing from the start of the series was that Frieren's old journey was over but she would meet new people and make new connections. Now we're just forgoing all those new people to dive deeper on her and the past.

This went from a manga I rushed to read to one I don't mind putting off because of this arc. Time travel and/or multiple dimensions as "plot devices" are one of the most obnoxious and offensive things an author can resort to. It has become the modern equivalent of Deus Ex Machina, where audiences are just trained to accept the trope and ignore how intrusive and overused it is.

I'm still hoping this is a trick or a quickly passing device in this story, but the hints being dropped are not looking good for that.

Oh well, I still adore the characters, interactions, and art regardless.

 

[B3ll3r0ph0nt3s]

Stuck in an illusion that gives you everything you want? The same premise as the Mugen Train arc in demon slayer, an episode of justice league, and at least three episodes of Star Trek I can think of. Here's hoping that Sousou no Frieren has a new twist on it. I'll predict that Himmel's illusion is too perfect and he breaks it (the same ending in all the stories previously mentioned) only to come to present and find out that Frieren already used some broken future magic and killed Grausam. The illusion only lasted a second.

Like others have pointed out the real danger is the great demon Tot and her 100 year planet ending curse. fwiw "Töt" is German for "Dead."

To your German, not quite:

tot, adjective - to be dead (der tote Dämon), can also be used for something hidden - toter Winkel (blind angle), toter Briefkasten (dead drop)
töt, conjugation of the verb töten - to kill (Töt(e) mich - Kill me)
Tod - Death

Ain't German just wonderful

 

[comedyxtragedy]

It will be funny if the corrupt priest ends up breaking the spell because he's already living his dream. 🥲

 

[NKD146]

When I saw the raw I was like "OMG FINALLY LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO". And then... fuck.

 

[boogabooga227]

No... I'm not ready to cry yet pls

 

[patwentsu]

Judging by the moments we have had with both real and illusion Himmel, his willpower is way stronger than this puny demon anticipated. Time to save Frieren for a change. Go Himmel, go!

Edit. Also might be anime related, but putting illustration of Aura at the end kinda bolsters my theory. Aura's magic was kinda similar but strong will could hold off it for a moment

 

[Nighterfield]

this is such a bad arc
time traveling is always horrible unless you can truly pull off a genius plot
there are no stakes here, we have seen Himmel dying of old age, they have killed the big boss demon
but maybe the mangaka just wanted to draw some chapters of the legendary party, could have done it differently IMO, as a tale or just remembering things

Yeah I don't like time traveling stuff too. It always makes things convoluted, not to mention the time paradox stuff and the plot holes.

As much as I love the current arc, I'm afraid this arc will make this manga's quality become lower. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[JeezyHungry]

The Warrior General demon with the axe is the same one who attacked Stark's village in chapter 26

 

[FightingBread]

That's fucked up

 

[saiai22]

time for demon slaying

 

[friendly]

I don't think hes gonna buy it a second. <3