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buddy, you got married last chapter and principal was the one to place you in the same dorm, I don't think there's any problemSharing room with Leticia? Something is definitely going to go wrong!
buddy, you got married last chapter and principal was the one to place you in the same dorm, I don't think there's any problemSharing room with Leticia? Something is definitely going to go wrong!
now if only someone would pick up all of art lapsa's mangaThanks for the TL! It's nice to see someone tackle the paywall that is Asmodeous Scans, so many decent Isekais have been picked up by them only to be paywalled after 2-3 chapters and never updated for months or just straight up abandoned.
Paywalling is not something any group should do. They don’t own the licensing rights for the Manga. Putting it behind a paywall is the same as illegally selling something they don’t have rights to sell. It’s more illegal practice than just scanlating, and is one of the reasons publishers start going harder on removing scanlated works.Maybe it’s paywalled (couldn’t find any posts in the previous chapter thread but it’s possible) maybe it’s not. Personally I don’t have an issue if a translation group wants to briefly put their work being a wall in order to get some amount of funding from folks to pay other members of the group. If Asmodeus Scan put it behind a wall and never put out the chapters then I’d have an issue with that however they just did a batch release a bit ago so do find it a tad slimy to try to snipe this series from them. Dragon Hatchling has this same issue where this group is poaching on that series despite it already having an active TLer. Seems this person has a habit of trying to poach series that have active TLers and it’s a tad annoying
Rule 1.5.1: Translation groups (i.e. not Official Publishers) may not promote websites that permanently gate access to translated works behind any form of system that requires payment to view releases (e.g. paywalls, subscriptions, coin-based unlocks, etc.). Practices such as intentionally degrading freely viewable content to push paid alternatives are similarly prohibited. A group may offer paid access to their own translated works, but must ensure they are made fully and freely available after a consistent and reasonable delay.I always thought paywallers weren't allowed on mangadex but I can no longer find it in the rules.
Nonetheless, down with paywallers, thank you for the chapter.
Rule 1.5.1: Translation groups (i.e. not Official Publishers) may not promote websites that permanently gate access to translated works behind any form of system that requires payment to view releases (e.g. paywalls, subscriptions, coin-based unlocks, etc.). Practices such as intentionally degrading freely viewable content to push paid alternatives are similarly prohibited. A group may offer paid access to their own translated works, but must ensure they are made fully and freely available after a consistent and reasonable delay.
the paywaller groups are most likely the reason publishers ordered the mass dmca take downPaywalling is not something any group should do. They don’t own the licensing rights for the Manga. Putting it behind a paywall is the same as illegally selling something they don’t have rights to sell. It’s more illegal practice than just scanlating, and is one of the reasons publishers start going harder on removing scanlated works.
Looking at Asmos upload frequency for this Manga there were a 3 month release gap up until 2 weeks ago. I can only assume that they were hiding this latest batch behind said paywall.
Fucking snipers. 😑xd Asmodeus got sniped.
Paywalling is not something any group should do. They don’t own the licensing rights for the Manga. Putting it behind a paywall is the same as illegally selling something they don’t have rights to sell. It’s more illegal practice than just scanlating, and is one of the reasons publishers start going harder on removing scanlated works.
Looking at Asmos upload frequency for this Manga there were a 3 month release gap up until 2 weeks ago. I can only assume that they were hiding this latest batch behind said paywall.
Except they’re not selling anything other then the work they did that they put time and effort into doing such as translating, editing, typesetting and proofreading the chapters. Wanting some amount of funds to do all of this is more than fair as long as it’s not permanent behind a wall. Should they be doing it? Probably not. But I can empathize wanting to get paid for work they did. I myself am working on a translation for a game that has over a million characters and over 14,000 dialogue boxes. Now I’m not getting paid for it cause I’m doing it for fun and so others can enjoy the game but it’d be nice to get some amount of funds for the work im doing.Paywalling is not something any group should do. They don’t own the licensing rights for the Manga. Putting it behind a paywall is the same as illegally selling something they don’t have rights to sell. It’s more illegal practice than just scanlating, and is one of the reasons publishers start going harder on removing scanlated works.
Looking at Asmos upload frequency for this Manga there were a 3 month release gap up until 2 weeks ago. I can only assume that they were hiding this latest batch behind said paywall.
The problem isn't that "consistent and reasonable delay" isn't strictly or stringently enforced, the problem is it's such a vague definition of time that there's no proper method to enforce it. Who defines how long reasonable is? Is their definition of reasonable similar to everyone else's? What about exceptions due to staff issues, site downtime, etc.?Right; the rule is that you can take money for "early access" but you can't post a chapter to Mangadex solely as an advertisement to drive to traffic your site.
Unfortunately that "consistent and reasonable delay" part isn't as stringently enforced as I would like; we can all name a few groups where translations are paywalled until the group gets sniped, or groups who seem to only release batches of chapters when their site needs boost in traffic.
Yeah, i mentioned this back in a reddit thread when the DMCA stuff happened and they put this rule and everyone was dooming these groups since they wouldn't be "allowed" to upload here due to paywall, but while they mention this "consistent and reasonable delay", it doesn't have a set date or anything so they could just abuse it, some groups just delay until the next raw chapter is out and they have a translation (like this serie, raw chapter 9 came out yesterday, chapter 8 was going to be here sooner than later), but some hold alot more chapters in their site and series here are behind (which quite a few series from asmodeus too), in the end after the DMCA nothing much really changed, only stuff that happened was that some groups left mangadex on the side, uploading somewhere else or using cubari links in their discordsThe problem isn't that "consistent and reasonable delay" isn't strictly or stringently enforced, the problem is it's such a vague definition of time that there's no proper method to enforce it. Who defines how long reasonable is? Is their definition of reasonable similar to everyone else's? What about exceptions due to staff issues, site downtime, etc.?
There needs to be a clear directive to groups operating paywalls in any form or duration that "this is how long you have until you either list the chapter or we shut your access down."
Agreed; the two go hand-in-hand really.The problem isn't that "consistent and reasonable delay" isn't strictly or stringently enforced, the problem is it's such a vague definition of time that there's no proper method to enforce it. Who defines how long reasonable is? Is their definition of reasonable similar to everyone else's? What about exceptions due to staff issues, site downtime, etc.?
There needs to be a clear directive to groups operating paywalls in any form or duration that "this is how long you have until you either list the chapter or we shut your access down."
You can ask for donations, but putting it behind a paywall is again highly illegal, since you are by that point selling and profiting of a product you don’t have the license to sell. And yes, if you put chapters behind paywall then you are selling said chapters. They are selling the original work, just changed the translation. Which they don’t have a license to do. Scanlation has always been seen as a payless job, since everyone with half a brain knows that there’s a big difference between demanding money for a chapter or releasing a chapter for free.Except they’re not selling anything other then the work they did that they put time and effort into doing such as translating, editing, typesetting and proofreading the chapters. Wanting some amount of funds to do all of this is more than fair as long as it’s not permanent behind a wall. Should they be doing it? Probably not. But I can empathize wanting to get paid for work they did. I myself am working on a translation for a game that has over a million characters and over 50,000 dialogue boxes. Now I’m not getting paid for it cause I’m doing it for fun and so others can enjoy the game but it’d be nice to get some amount of funds for the work im doing.
Maybe it’s paywalled (couldn’t find any posts in the previous chapter thread but it’s possible) maybe it’s not. Personally I don’t have an issue if a translation group wants to briefly put their work being a wall in order to get some amount of funding from folks to pay other members of the group. If Asmodeus Scan put it behind a wall and never put out the chapters then I’d have an issue with that however they just did a batch release a bit ago so do find it a tad slimy to try to snipe this series from them. Dragon Hatchling has this same issue where this group is poaching on that series despite it already having an active TLer. Seems this person has a habit of trying to poach series that have active TLers and it’s a tad annoyinasmo
Asmodeus scans paywall like 5 chapters. It is not okay. And they often don’t release stuff for months.Also just noticed this group who TLed is different from the normal group. Guess they’re going into the blocked groups as I don’t like snipers and Asmodeus Scans just uploaded several chapters about two weeks ago