Tenkaichi - Nihon Saikyou Bugeisha Ketteisen - Ch. 44 - The Gate Before His Eyes

[cgr]

History wise, isshun will lose to Musashi

Actually , history wise, inshun never fought Musashi because inshun was only 16 when Musashi (5 years older) challenged hozoin, and Musashi actually fought Doei (the other hozoin guy that inshun beat in this manga).

also, other than Musashi's potential rivalry with Kojiro, history clearly isn't meant to be that relevant in this manga.

 

[Kurovah]

This is a bit like raidens fight but it's missing something.

 

[Lustrist]

nah slay the gods

 

[hanghimto1986]

Actually , history wise, inshun never fought Musashi because inshun was only 16 when Musashi (5 years older) challenged hozoin, and Musashi actually fought Doei (the other hozoin guy that inshun beat in this manga).

also, other than Musashi's potential rivalry with Kojiro, history clearly isn't meant to be that relevant in this manga.

It is acknowledged in the manga that this is an alternate timeline from the original timeline. Mushashi v Sasaki or Inshun is not guaranteed

 

[EonNite]

I kinda like his story... He basically spooked himself into underperforming by nearly killing his fatherfigure.

 

[cgr]

It is acknowledged in the manga that this is an alternate timeline from the original timeline. Mushashi v Sasaki or Inshun is not guaranteed

you're missing my point:

Musashi and Kojiro is both in history, and relevant in this manga so it's probably important.

Musashi and Inshun is neither in history nor relevant in this manga (at least so far) so it's probably irrelevant.

 

[hanghimto1986]

you're missing my point:

Musashi and Kojiro is both in history, and relevant in this manga so it's probably important.

Musashi and Inshun is neither in history nor relevant in this manga (at least so far) so it's probably irrelevant.

Sure. But as in “Pop history” right? Mushashi fighting someone with a throw-y chain weapon then the spear of Inshun then Sasaki at the very end.

I don’t think the author is referring to the hard history like yours

 

[cgr]

Sure. But as in “Pop history” right? Mushashi fighting someone with a throw-y chain weapon then the spear of Inshun then Sasaki at the very end.

I don’t think the author is referring to the hard history like yours

? nothing in this manga refers to pop history.

pop history has musashi interact with yagyu muneyoshi, inshun, monk takuan , etc. but none of them are relevant in this manga.

whereas actual history: monk takuan is an advisor of yagyu munenori as shown in this manga

 

[hanghimto1986]

? nothing in this manga refers to pop history.

pop history has musashi interact with yagyu muneyoshi, inshun, monk takuan , etc. but none of them are relevant in this manga.

whereas actual history: monk takuan is an advisor of yagyu munenori as shown in this manga

You really wanna “actually” this ?

Ok, man, have it. Let’s see how “hard history” will this manga go. Like, the fact that both Mushashi’s alleged rivals are in this but you want to hard call Inshun has nothing to do with Mushashi. Ok, man biggest coincidence, eh

 

[cgr]

Like, the fact that both Mushashi’s alleged rivals are in this

inshun is actually a famous martial artist , perfectly reasonable for author to choose him as one of the top 16 of japan around that time

hard call Inshun has nothing to do with Mushashi.

you saying this means you clearly didn't read this manga then, since this manga hasn't shown any connection between them (just like in history)

 

[hanghimto1986]

inshun is actually a famous martial artist , perfectly reasonable for author to choose him as one of the top 16 of japan around that time

you saying this means you clearly didn't read this manga then, since this manga hasn't shown any connection between them (just like in history

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hōzōin_Inshun

“In Japanese folklore, he (and Hōzōin-ryū school itself) is known the most for a legendary duel with Miyamoto Musashi, who came to Kōfuku-ji to fight with a member of the school. This portrayal of Inshun as Musashi's rival and of the duel appear in many modern popular media, such as the manga Vagabond, or games like Ryū ga Gotoku Kenzan!, and originate in Eiji Yoshikawa's novel Musashi. However, when historical Musashi visited Kofuku-Ji, Inei was 84 years old and Inshun 16.[4] Whether due to the old age of the first headmaster of the Hōzōin-ryū or due to the youth of his successor the man who met Musashis challenge was Okuzōin Dōei.[4] Later on in his life Musashi dueled (and won) with another Hōzōinryū user, Takada Matabee. That took place in Kokura in Buzen Provincein 1632.[4]”
This is what I meant by “pop history”

Yea, hey may be Mushashi and Inshun haven’t interacted because even the author felt the Mushashi V Inshun fight is too troupe-y or don’t want to make it so obvious.

With Sasaki surviving and Inshun still alive now and Fuma being the chain-y weapon person. We have all the pieces for another Mushashi legend retelling.

I am just hoping this is not the twist in the end.

 

[cgr]

legendary duel with Miyamoto Musashi....This is what I meant by “pop history”

yes, most of us know this, but this manga doesn't reference it AT ALL

Fuma being the chain-y weapon person

no, shishido is the kusarigana (chain and sickle) user (not chain and shuriken) in Musashi's story (iffy if he actually existed but that's the recorded name in history)

Inshun still alive now

of course, since this is literally the first round, not sure why you think he doesn't even deserve a decent fight or two

With Sasaki surviving

since Sasaki is part of actual Musashi's history, not pop history

Mushashi legend retelling.

if that's the case, Yagyu munetoshi would be Yagyu's representative instead of Munenori (his son), since Munetoshi is relevant in Musashi's pop history

 

[hanghimto1986]

yes, most of us know this, but this manga doesn't reference it AT ALL

no, shishido is the kusarigana (chain and sickle) user (not chain and shuriken) in Musashi's story (iffy if he actually existed but that's the recorded name in history)

of course, since this is literally the first round, not sure why you think he doesn't even deserve a decent fight or two

since Sasaki is part of actual Musashi's history, not pop history

if that's the case, Yagyu munetoshi would be Yagyu's representative instead of Munenori (his son), since Munetoshi is relevant in Musashi's pop history

Dude. You are being oddly uptight about history here meanwhile this is like a popcorn history mash.

 

[cgr]

Dude. You are being oddly uptight about history here meanwhile this is like a popcorn history mash.

dude, it's ok to admit you're wrong and don't know

it's obvious you don't have an actual comeback and you're just embarrassing yourself more by flaunting your nonexistent knowledge of the difference between recorded history vs pop history.

 

[hanghimto1986]

dude, it's ok to admit you're wrong and don't know

it's obvious you don't have an actual comeback and you're just embarrassing yourself more by flaunting your nonexistent knowledge of the difference between recorded history vs pop history.

What don’t I know?

Like you just came at me with random facts . But like what do you think that I am saying wrong?

It’s so random

 

[Fitew]

I'd expect Musashi/Sasaki happening outside the tournament. Unless some kinda warrior replacement happens.

Makes me think of Kengan.

Since Hozoin and Musashi are in different blocks, anyway, and doubt he is making it to the finals.

 

[RefNasr]

Oh Inshun my GOAT 🐐