The Bugle Call: Song of War - Vol. 9 Ch. 28 - Happy

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this is actually a very interesting concept the more the pope breaks it down, these towers are WMD's but instead of normal science based mass destruction capabilities, they give you the ability to alter history how you see fit. Mutually assured destruction has already taken place in the future, but the post apocalypse is in the past
 
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Great chapter, I'm curious what those last spreads were about but otherwise the author did a good job dealing with the obvious issues time travel introduces, so I'm happy to wait and see what they do.

Wished the mangaka focused on the medieval warfare a bit more and keep the future stuff for the second half
Pretty sure we are in the second half, most of the worldbuilding has been set up, the main antagonists has been introduced and the main character has come to term with his situation, learned the truth of the conflict he is a part of, and found a new/renewed reason to fight the real battle.
To me that chapter screams end of the first half, I wouldn't be surprised if we got a time skip soon.

Also, I doubt we will suddenly stop seeing medieval battles, both side seems intent on not fucking the timeline too much so I don't think we will see modern or futuristic weaponry before one side gets really desperate.
 
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She was just doing her job, while he answered with "Sorry, it's just that I happen to be a pedophile and I don't really get hard if they are not mentally impaired".
I can tell you I had her same reaction...

Isn't Lucas 14 years old? Would the pedo label even apply to him if he's a child himself?
 
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i think Zoe might have undergone some serious development considering it feels like she grew up mentally, maybe in the future we could see her finally matching her age?

also, lucas, thats the worst fucking way to put her down 😭😭 groomer(?) allegations will NEVER leave this man
 
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Bro's 14 for god sakes
I know you guys like memeing just as much as I do but bro's just as much a child as Zoe

:worry: the most unbelievable thing should have been how he's able to ride a full-on bicycle after like a few hours
 
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Hopefully Zoe actually attains her mentality as time goes by bcs that Lucas talk about him being into a 27 year that's actually a 9 year old was disgusting 💔
 
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Hopefully Zoe actually attains her mentality as time goes by bcs that Lucas talk about him being into a 27 year that's actually a 9 year old was disgusting 💔
I get what you're going for her but buddy that would actually be more pedophilic than what's currently happening lmao
 
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The shitty situation is that no one here seems to realize that Lucas just blurted that out cause she was making him uncomfortable and he wanted her to leave. As the Pope says afterwards, he should just embrace it and get used to it instead of rejecting the attention.
 
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They didn't: haven't you read the chapter? "A distant country, with a different name and a different territory".
If I have to take a gander, the contenders are/were/will be two or more of USA, China, Russia, India and Japan, because of course it is always about fucking Japan; and maybe one of the locals unwillingly dragged into this mess, like the king of mirror country. No one would want to fight a high intensity war with weapons of mass destruction in what will become their future territory: ask french, who are still digging out unexploded artillery rounds from WWI...
If you look at the maps and historical names, the mirror country is literally France, the Empire of Erin is literally England, and the Papal States is literally Italy. The USA as a force would make no fucking sense, as the US isn't even colonized by this point. China might make sense, but they are under Mongol rule rn. Russia would make no sense because Russia isn't even a unified political entity, and the strongest Russian Principality rn is Novgorod, but Russia is based on Muscovy so it doesn't fucking matter. Japan would make no sense, as they are so far away and historically weaker than all these other Empires. I don't even know what was going on in India but it doesn't matter.
 
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If you look at the maps and historical names, the mirror country is literally France, the Empire of Erin is literally England, and the Papal States is literally Italy. The USA as a force would make no fucking sense, as the US isn't even colonized by this point. China might make sense, but they are under Mongol rule rn. Russia would make no sense because Russia isn't even a unified political entity, and the strongest Russian Principality rn is Novgorod, but Russia is based on Muscovy so it doesn't fucking matter. Japan would make no sense, as they are so far away and historically weaker than all these other Empires. I don't even know what was going on in India but it doesn't matter.
What the pope is saying is that the countries that sent people back to the past are not the same as the ones currently involved in the open conflict, and I was taking a gander at who those future/present powers may be.
 
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The author really jumped into a huge hole with the time travel reveal and I don't see how they can get out of it.
  1. Country A wants to travel back in time to change the future? Sure go ahead. After they've traveled back, they would be gone from current (in other words, everyone else's) timeline. Why should countries B, C, D, etc care?
  2. OK, say countries B, C, D, etc are also unhappy with their current state and want to do-over by traveling to the past. Then why would they want to travel back to the same timeline as everyone else? They could have just traveled back to the point where nobody else has traveled back and create their own new timeline from there. To illustrate:
Code:
------------------------------------- original timeline
     \ \ \ \ \ \ \
      a b c \ e f g
             \
              \----------------------new timeline due to country A traveling back
Countries B, C, D, etc could have chosen any point - a, b, c, e, f, g to travel back to, and country A would be totally absent from their timeline:
Code:
------------------------------------- original timeline
     \ \ \ \ \ \ \-------------------new timeline due to country D traveling back
      a b c \ \ \--------------------new timeline due to country C traveling back
             \ \---------------------new timeline due to country B traveling back
              \----------------------new timeline due to country A traveling back
Why do everybody want to crowd into the same freaking timeline as country A?
Code:
------------------------------------- original timeline
     \ \ \ \ \ \ \
      a b c \ e f g
             \
              \----------------------new timeline due to countries A, B, C, D, etc traveling back
Also note the pope stated that country A traveled back first while others followed later. So that means country A would have already progressed on their own timeline and other countries would be creating new branches off A's branch:
Code:
------------------------------------- original timeline
     \----------------------new timeline due to country A traveling back
             \  \-----------new timeline due to country B traveling back
              \-------------new timeline due to country C traveling back
                   \--------new timeline due to country D traveling back
So in one timeline, country A would be chugging along happily all by themselves while the other countries would be fighting with other countries because they moronically decided to crowd into the same timeline.

@lab000 @the_Bear_from_Bearcave @pdot1123 @alacaelum You guys don't see to be bothered by the time traveling, curious if you see a reasonable explanation for this.
 
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@lab000 @the_Bear_from_Bearcave @pdot1123 @alacaelum You guys don't see to be bothered by the time traveling, curious if you see a reasonable explanation for this.
This... is an impressive demonstration.

I have no "factual" reasoning, I just don't waste my time thinking too much in cases like this, unless the authors want to dive more into "rules" for this time travel... there is no reason to think too much.

What you demonstrated here is a good and well-thought-out explanation, but it doesn't mean it will be how the authors portray time travel in their story.

I mean... they mentioned "safeguarding the souls", does this feel like hard sci-fi terminology to you?

So yeah, I just don't feel like it is a hole at all, I don't need "hard rules" for the mechanics, I actually think in a story like this such type of rules would detract from it, sure... the powers have clear limitations, but I don't think everything needs a detailed explanation of how things work, because... well, not like we understand everything in real life too, why would things that clearly distort the common logic of the world have complete explanations for how they work?

And to me, I am here more for the characters, they are the thing that truly drives this story for me, and I do think it is how the authors constructed it to be, there are more elements to give space for creativity and not be just another "medieval war period" story, but the focus is on the character living in this world.
 
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