The Insipid Prince's Furtive Grab for the Throne - Vol. 2 Ch. 8.1

[deathmailrock]

@monkey123 1st, that's not entirely true. She's OP and has great influence. 2nd, you realize that he's lying to her, right? So it's not fair to blame her because she isn't helping his SECRET plan.

Can you blame her for protecting him when he's pretending to be weak? She's only doing what she's doing because he's tricking her... why is she the bad guy when he's the one keeping things secret?

If a guy took a bullet for Clark Kent while not knowing he's Superman, would he be an idiot? If a person chooses to fly his plane to get something important across the nation, but doesn't give Barry Allen the object instead because he thinks Barry is an ordinary person who is always late, would he be an idiot?

Instead, the prince is lucky. When everyone seems to look down on him and might even hate him,

I mean, should we stop trying to end bullying? Just let people be bullied in our face? Or when a person is suffering, should we ignore it rather than try to help?

You are saying she's troublesome because she's not acting along with some secret plan that he has that she doesn't know...

But is that even fair???
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Why is a girl that protects people from bullies the one viewed as bad? Why is she being judged for not acting along with a secret plan that's kept secret from her???

Besides, she isn't going to really get in his way; she's just making him work hard. Note, even his butler who knows everything actually supports her.

Our MC is a lazy guy; that's his character.

Besides, what she's going to do isn't detrimental to him in an way... he just can't be lazy...

The MC just wishes that she helped his brother over him, but, again, he's pretending to be weak... and she's acting according to that fact.

That's actually kinda lucky for him if you think about it. He has someone that cares enough about him to protect him from bullies and fights to keep him safe.
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I don't understand why such a good girl is being treated as a problem by people reading this? Is it the fact that you can't see things from her perspective? Is it because she isn't cruel and heartless enough to abandon her friend who she thinks is weak and powerless? The friend she always needed to protect?

 

[andretkj1]

Its me or elna boobs is little bigger then the novel description (novel ; its described as a cutting board lol)

 

[monkey123]

@deathmailrock
Dude what are you even talking about? And you also got an avatar of the Kirino thot - this says all. MC of Oreimo also gets bossed around so much to a degree you could call it stockholm syndrome. Not my fetish!

 

[RainEStar]

@monkey123
Gotchya, you're rather a troll or a blind idiot.

MC is running a persona, so of course any external support he gets is going to conflict with his true interests. Also, the manga you linked has an MC with a terrible sense of morality.

 

[TitanAnteus]

@deathmailrock
Bro, monkey123 is an incel cuck.
Look at his avatar, and it's pretty obvious from his comments.

Dude just beat the crap out of the thot and train her into a good pet! Fucking simp...

Best not to engage with people that only have 2 brain cells.

 

[mahtan]

Great, the worse trope of all has arrived.
This story was going so well so far then the author had to screw it up...

Meh.

Edit: Anyone defending any character that forces other character to do something against their will because they are "stronger" than the other character just because the one doing the forcing is a female character should really rethink their life.

 

[cor3zone]

@deathmailrock
She is not a bad person, per se, but she is a bully. She may have protected him from bullies, but she still bullied him herself. Even if she had good intentions, her methods were those of a bully.

Also, I advise you to just block monkey123. It's not worth the effort to even read.

 

[TouyaKazuki]

@monkey123 gladly now i know that you don't have a wife lol. Also i maybe am a bit of a M (yeah i know what this is no need to say it). Though i' m not fine with any girls it depends on their personality if they have a personality who likes to be sensitive of things then i like them. Bossy girls? Do i like them hmmm... Yeah they're bossy and all but like i said they're being bossy since they care for you. Being bossy doesn't really define who they really are on the inside. Also do you know that you will literally get bossed around if you have a wife i'm telling you right now cause i know it. Most Girls are very bossy and demanding there's no dodging that fact. Especially if they're on period they're scary...

 

[deathmailrock]

@cor3zone She apparently wasn't a bully though. She forced him to train with her... which is something you technically need. He's just viewing it that way because he doesn't want to work hard.

And yah, someone who doesn't realize that slapstick humor isn't meant to be taken seriously probably shouldn't be trusted in a situation like this.

 

[cor3zone]

@deathmailrock
I'll have to disagree. I mean, I agree that he needed training. But the method she chose was that of a bully. Less training, more being forced to defend himself.

Think. She's physically superior. She outranks him. He literally had no choice but to follow her whims. Also, when she 'protected him' she quite openly bullied him. Calling him "weakling" and "sissy".

 

[deathmailrock]

@cor3zone I think many little brothers can relate to being called a weakling and sissy.... that's something quite normal for siblings... my siblings also sat on me, and my nephews argue and fight all the time with the big bro calling his little brother a pest and wrapping him up in blankets so he can't escape...

 

[cor3zone]

@deathmailrock
Sure, but they aren't siblings. They were raised at court, so both would be aware of the actuality of her actions.

Anyway, that's just my take on it.😉

 

[deathmailrock]

@cor3zone They were kids that were raised together.... she's a tomboy that liked playing with swords.... he was a nerd....

 

[monkey123]

@TouyaKazuki
You are even scared of them? LUL. Could it be you're not only M, but also simp? 🤔 You probably also hide all your porn magazines, but don't worry - they will find them anyway.

 

[XNovalX]

@TouyaKazuki Listen here, and listen well. I am not insulting the author in any fucking way. If no one gave criticism, no one would improve. I am hating on an annoying character, not on the damn author. Secondly, reading emotion from text isn't efficient at all, if you are gonna assume I am mad for the sake of your argument, then you should just keep silent. "it's just a manga." if this all you see it as, that's TRULY an insult to the author who spent his time on this, I am criticizing this because I have hopes for this manga. I am not mad, I am being lenient.
Ok mister cucklord, we get that you like bossy girls, but in the real world, people wouldn't put up with such attitude. I prefer discussion, because it's more satisfying to smoke brainlets like you who contradict themselves, countless times.

 

[XNovalX]

@deathmailrock Maybe you've read the source material, but nothing of this sort has happened so far. The MC is only seen as "worthless" until recent, or we can infer, way after this new girl left. Another bold point, the MC himself called her the devil, and here you are acting like she's your fucking mum. It doesn't say that she helped him from bullies, nor does she show that she is protecting him. You are just speaking from your ass. She may have good intentions, but this bitch is so toxic it's actually not funny.

 

[deathmailrock]

@XNovalX Yes, but the Butler doesn't take what he says seriously.... all it's shown her do so far was force him to train with her when they were kids.... that's it... and he's a lazy ass... so his words literally hold no weight in that regard....

Hell, she literally chose to protect him in this situation with him commenting that he wishes she protected his brother instead. So far, this chapter shows her caring about him.

 

[XNovalX]

@deathmailrock Obviously, if it's a female on the MC's side, she is going to be good, no matter if she's chaotic, neutral or lawful. But it's hard to ignore the contradictory nature of anime characters when it comes to gender. If the new character was the same, having the only difference as being a male as opposed to a female, everyone would probably hate him, but because it has tits, its fine because most readers are depraved virgins that would thirst for scumbags like her.

 

[cor3zone]

@deathmailrock
Your butler argument holds no weight. She outranks everyone but the emperor. Of course a butler would pretend such a slight never happened.

 

[Shinigamisama]

The comments section is like a whole different manga. ANYWAYS, I miss Finne.