The Most Heretical Last Boss Queen: From Villainess to Savior - Vol. 1 Ch. 5

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I went and read this scene in the translation of the novel hoping to understand more and I come back a bit more pissed.

Everyone basically trying to reason she thought spoiling Pryde would make the prophesy happen
BITCH THE KID WAS 2!!!! If I'm understanding the novel right she got the vision of Pryde when Tiara was born WHICH WAS TWO YEARS LATER! YOU BASICALLY ABANDONED BEING A MOTHER!! You're not supposed to "oops i might screw up time to never see mt child again" you're supposed to guide them. She might be a good queen and wife but wow she's an awful parent from the start. Ugh the whole favored child cliche is hitting to close to home and this lady is just annoying me. I hope she doesnt get it easy when reconnecting with Prdye...

Also this comment section has confused me but Gilbert ISNT the Queen's adoptive brother right? He's just a scheming Prime Minister/advisor???
 
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I don't think so...?
Remember when she says "she can't see Pryde's future now" because "everything is changing at the present"..? Meaning she should've know when she decided to neglect Pryde but she can still see her future, that means her actions didn't change anything and should've tried a different action. But she didn't. Lol XD

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wait.. I thought it was explained on the earlier chapter that it's tradition to adopt someone with special ability and made them their brother and advisor just like Stayle with Pryde?? Or did i remember it wrong?? 🤔🤣
 
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Interesting so queen knows the future.. and she knew what her daughter would do (before the reincarnation happened) and didnt stop her.
Also it doesn't seem like she knows everything since she didn't say anything about her husband dying in carriage accident(chp 2?)
 
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The gap between the queen serious side and cute side is really nice
 
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The queen is really a horrific mother. Not only did she have a power of precognition to ensure her way of raising pryde turned out stellar and yet decide to just shun her, she also literally essentially foresaw pryde's execution (or however the villainess ends in this story, I forgot by now) and figured "perfect!". She entirely threw away the child both in her present and in her future plans, and now that she finds out her visions were incorrect she thinks she wants to become her mother again?

During this kind of story, I always wish the mc will end up clearly distancing themselves from the concept of the failure being their parent in any more than mere blood. They are literally adults in a childs body, so they should not feel a need for the supposed parents praise. And the sheer catharsis for the reader to have the queen chewed out and thrown out of the story as more than a bg-char in a spiel of how they utterly neglected the mc would be quite satisfying.
In this specific case, I would have liked the queen to be met with some greeting where mc essentially alienates herself from the queen, like greeting her similar to the boy as if it was the first time she met the queen, and adhering entirely to the etiquette one would have expected from a noble without familial ties to her.

ps: not only as a mother, but she is bad even as a queen, as iirc the kingdom had quite the turmoil as thanks to how she planned for pryde's story to end. Could have just nipped the problems in their bud instead, or maybe overrule tradition with the declaration that she saw a prophesy of catastrophe if pryde becomes queen.
 
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I fucking hate her mom. She never not once tried to change Pryde's fate. I can't even fathom how much I hate her but also half of this is my wonderful mommy issues flaring up LMAO fuck. "Im a horrible mother" You really are, dumbass. Idiot. Moron.
 
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Everyones shitting on queen (rightfully so) but we dont really know the exact way her powers work. All we know is she gets some sort of future info. It might not even be detailed. While I agree it was wrong of her to shun her first daughter to this extent I can see why she thought the way she did. It doenst make it ok and its certainly wrong of her but I understand. Its a shame because if she had simply shown her just as much love as her 2nd born then she probably wouldnt have become a villainess (aside from the fact its a game) in the original time line.
 
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@Cyro11 The Queen seems to basically lack context in her precognition ability, as the very fact that she saw the future basically cause her to do the stuff that will cause that very same future. She saw Pryde as becoming a horrible person, she started shunning the child which created the very same environment that would have caused her to become a horrible person instead of raising her with care. Her ability caused her to see the future based on her own changed course of action, not the future that would have resulted if she didn't see the future.

Ironically Pryde has the reverse as the dream/flashback about the self she was in the story, she see the future she could have went through if she didn't have that ability/change/reincarnation.
 
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Aptly put, with far less bloodlust than the rest of the comments.

Because of the way we see things like we're on the outside looking in, we don't get to see exactly her reasoning or even what she saw when her daughter was born. Only words exchanged with her husband. For all we know, the moment she declared how much she would love and care for her child, she could have gotten the vision then and thought her giving that affection would result in her turning into a cruel young woman.

And even though she doesn't know about the reincarnation, the fact she saw that her own vision doesn't match up to reality anymore which made her question her precognition and ultimately change how she will now treat our FMC moving forward.

People are very quick to condemn the mom when she thought she was doing the right thing.

Hell she's not even a bad mom, she was just working with data that's obsolete now without figuring out why.
 
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Oof, so the original Pryde was victim to the Queen's self fulfilling prophecy. That's actually decent writing.
 
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Ironically one of the best uses of prophecy in fiction I’ve seen was Men in Black 3. Being able to see all future outcomes to an event but being unable to discern what timeline/universe you’re in making it “a huge pain in the ass.”
 
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even if she saw the prophecy in bits and pieces, why not think ahead of what her actions would do to CAUSE that problem? most children when raised with love and care turn out to be decent human beings because morals were instilled into them and they know that being loved and giving love feels good. so why SHUN your child, negatively impacting their life and instilling self doubt and a need to replace the love they could never get from their mother or to seek out revenge later in life? i don’t get how anyone in a position of power and with a literal power can believe that enabling future bad behavior can be seen as preventing it. i can’t even blame the original pryde, i would’ve lost my shit too if i knew my own mother practically abandoned me based on a flimsy prophesy and then was spoiled rotten by my father. and it makes sense why she wanted stayle to kill his mother; "if i can’t have it neither can you"
 
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Ugh her mom is the absolute worst!!!! Who abandons their baby when they have a vision of them becoming a bad person?! And then has another baby and spoils that one?! Pryde became such a awful person because of you! You abandoned her! You made her the evil queen she became!

God I can’t even imagine what the og Pryde went through. To have her father die and still have her mom shun her?! And then years and years later you learn you have a little sister that your mother loves and spoils. That in the years you’ve spent all alone they’d been living a perfect and happy family life.

No wonder she went full evil! She was a sad and lonely little girl who had no one! And the only way she knew how to get peoples attention was through cruelty.

The mom is the absolute worst! I hope nothing goes easy for her and that Pryde and her little brother are cold to her for years. She doesn’t deserve to be redeemed instantly. I hope Pryde becomes a wonderful queen that goes in the history books and shames her mother horribly for her stupid and cruel actions.

Honestly the queen is way crueler then Og Pryde!

Thank you for translating this chapter.
 
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wow...
so much hate for the queen for abandoning the OG pryde..

but it's true,
you know the answer in the future,
why not trying to avoid it by doing the opposite?

thankfully OG pryde is reborn by Isekai-ed Japanese Otome Player
 

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