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My roommate and I had a minor realization.

You guys know about those studies showing that people with traditionally white names get called back more often than people with traditionally non-white names?
What if, rather than racism, it's driven by people not being comfortable with trying to pronounce the name, so the rest of the resume just looks worse to them?

So I'm going to try and experiment by sending out resumes with some of the basic white girl 'creative names' such as Ash'leigh and the like and compare it to other cultural names.
 
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It’s a little bit of both columns A and B.

Corporate stats uphold the suspicions that those who grew up in decent environments (loving parents, given a western or normal not fucked up name, nice neighborhood and the whole shebang) are more often than not going to be better employees than Le’Andre from Chicago and Kairylen from Smalltown America.

I’ve done hiring a few times and it’s honestly quite true, normal named people are more well adapted. I’ve run into my fair share of unpronounceable names that were just stupid attempts at creativity.

Those stupid basic creative white names are from trailer trash attempting to be more like celebrities who are out of touch with reality.
 
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If you look past the "Lol them racist people just want to hire whitey" meme, it's a very complex and case-by-case situation, involving a plethora of variables and circumstances thats horribly simplified to push a racism narrative.
 
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Actually selective service is tied to your federal financial aid eligibility as well.
Well yeah, but
If you are required to register and you don’t, you will not be eligible for federal student aid, federal job training, or a federal job. You may be prosecuted and face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or jail time of up to five years. If you’re an immigrant to the U.S., you will not be eligible for citizenship.
Aid/training/job are iffy and case by case. Immigrants do get something out of it, but other than that the main reason to register is to avoid punishment rather than get a benefit.

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@wowfucktron It sounds like its more rooted in Classism then, assuming that poor kids are more likely to have something that is going to be a problem.

@Falador I was about to respond that it would be nice if that could be acknowledged in media, but then I remembered what I was going to say and realized that it would never happen.
 
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No, I’ve actually been told once to dismiss resumes that aren’t “normal.” Not normal meaning if they seem “ethnic.”

I didn’t really understand why until I was told to interview the people I was told to reject.

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If that’s how you want to rationalize/stomach being held to an unfair standard in society while also being treated like a disposable tool, then be my guest.
 
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What if, rather than racism, it's driven by people not being comfortable with trying to pronounce the name, so the rest of the resume just looks worse to them?

im pretty sure its cultural. a french person looking over applicants sees "billy bob" and turns up his nose. their both white but that doesnt matter. in america if your name is "billy bob" he wont care; if you name is a name thats common in the black community but still 'normal' like "tyrone" he wont care; but if your name is "abdul'al'shamali", "destiny", "boko", or anything else that catches the employers eye as 'odd' then hes more likly to turn you down regardless of race.
 
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Y'all said that but will you pass up names such as
Prizewell City Slicker
Wraith Martini Vermouthspray
Alaska 49
Yog-Sothoth

And best of all

"Ohohoho"
 
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Wow, people who don't know the difference between the words "baby" & "fetus!" A fetus is only a potential person. If you want to confer human rights on something like that, then every man who has ever masturbated or had a wet dream is guilty of mass murder. But you won't say that because the "pro-life" movement (which doesn't care how many women have died for difficulty in obtaining abortions when needed) has nothing to do with morality; it's an excuse to control women's bodies. If men could get pregnant there would be a government funded abortion clinic on every block. Incidentally I once read the bible but I don't remember the word "abortion" in it anywhere. I think Genesis did say life began when Adam "breathed the air."

How does it relate to killing babies?
You do know that some people buy guns with the specific purpose of killing their own family or shooting up a school, right? Not to mention the many who bought for honest reasons then mistook their child for an intruder or had other accidents. On thing I know--from growing up around them--white supremacists love their guns. https://www.yahoo.com/news/public-health-crisis-young-black-215138643.html

Isn't it funny some conservatives go back & forth between pretending racism doesn't exist & calling people on the left racist? Meanwhile communities across the country are overcoming the past & confronting the issue. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...sue-145-us-places-now-work-begins/6385693002/

Still, not everything the right says is wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OoaXVXtQFo
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I'm not gonna argue on the first paragraph; cause I probs get a bit mad but I'll try to sort out the other ones

You do know that some people buy guns with the specific purpose of killing their own family or shooting up a school, right? Not to mention the many who bought for honest reasons then mistook their child for an intruder or had other accidents. On thing I know--from growing up around them--white supremacists love their guns.

You do know all people that get an abortion has the specific purpose of killing their own family that weren't privileged enough to survive long enough to go to school? Not to mention all who got an abortion for honest reasons didn't make a mistake or accident but purposedly terminated their young (whether it'd be alive or dead in their mother's eyes) On thing I know--from growing up around them--strong females aren't those who antagonist opponents with stereotypes but charismatic and intelligent enough to garner respect and agreements even from her opponents.

Isn't it funny some conservatives go back & forth between pretending racism doesn't exist & calling people on the left racist? Meanwhile communities across the country are overcoming the past & confronting the issue

Blanket accusation. Good on those communites though: overcoming the past & confronting issues; granted they use civil means and level headed discussions.

Still, not everything the right says is wrong.

And neither is everything the "left" says is wrong either. Probs was a sarcastic statement but if you believe that statement is true than cooperate with each other rather than making "Left" and "Right" Camps; you guys are America; unless you plan to murder everyone on the otherside. Work together and strive
 
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The problem with posting a comedy show is it's a comedy show. It's designed to make people laugh, not provide a solid argument.
 
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Wow, people who don't know the difference between the words "baby" & "fetus!" A fetus is only a potential person

This is why people need to pay more attention in their biology class

The word you’re looking for is “embryo.” An embryo is not the same as a fetus. A fetus is nearing the point where it can survive independently outside of the womb, to the point where from about 24-25 weeks in, it is very likely to survive with modern medicine.

An embryo is what is what happens after a fertilized ovum (zygote) begins to rapidly multiply over and over again. At this point it would be accurate to say it is a cluster of cells. A fetus will begun to have formed all of its vital organs already, and goes threw the process of developing them further and growing them.

If you’re going to draw the line between infanticide and abortion, fetal viability is probably where you should be looking.

Also there is a difference because haploid cells like sperm and a fully fertilized egg, I would wager.

If men could get pregnant there would be a government funded abortion clinic on every block.

If we discount the fact that mammals are known for internal gestation, and that we define male and female based on who has the sperm and eggs respectively, (meaning aside from Transgender men, men would never be physically possible of getting pregnant) I would still say you’re full of shit.

It’s very evident that men lack the reproductive rights women have. For instance, if we were in the business of gender equality under, men should have the option to surrender their parental rights in favor of not paying child support in cases where the child has not been born yet. (Ie Financial Abortion) Hell, custody battles alone heavily skew against men, so this idea men are so privileged by society that they’d be given abortion rights is laughable to anyone who’s not a radical feminist.

But you won't say that because the "pro-life" movement (which doesn't care how many women have died for difficulty in obtaining abortions when needed) has nothing to do with morality; it's an excuse to control women's bodies

Even as someone who’s pro choice, this argumentation is a clear strawman. The pro-life position is generally that they are against abortion in cases that is not rape, incest, or life threatening. Also to discount their moral reasoning when, in their minds, they believe generally that it would have been women’s choices that allowed them to get pregnant in the first place and that having a child is the natural consequences of it, viewing the baby as being innocent and therefore not deserving of death. It’s not solely for controlling women.

I think it’s a necessary evil because people will naturally want abortions where legal or not, hence why the old Soviet Bloc, where abortion was illegal, saw women using coathangers to try and abort their children. It’s better for it to be legal, accessible and rare rather than potentially dangerous for all parties involved.

You do know that some people buy guns with the specific purpose of killing their own family or shooting up a school, right?

Trying to make the moral comparison from someone obtaining what is most likely an illegal firearm (minors can’t purchase legal firearms, which would be who is most likely to attend schools or to shoot them up) to commit a crime and abortion is probably not the best argument in favor of pro-choice, my dude.

Not to mention the many who bought for honest reasons then mistook their child for an intruder or had other accidents

Which is very, very rare and is no way accountable for the vast majority of gun deaths, which tend to be suicides.

On thing I know--from growing up around them--white supremacists love their guns.

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

It’s amazing how the Left cried wolf with “racism” and calling everyone they don’t like a Nazi that they had to jump to “white supremacist” as a buzzword instead. When will they learn their lesson?

Also the article linked is “ Young Black men and teens are killed by guns 20 times more than their white counterparts, CDC data shows.”

Should we tell her that’s because the majority of those is black on black crime caused by poverty and not hate crimes like she is insinuating?

Isn't it funny some conservatives go back & forth between pretending racism doesn't exist & calling people on the left racist?

That would be because it is a Strawman. Even then considering how common critical race theory is becoming in modern society, it would be fair to call the left racist at this point

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Not really. Comedy is designed to ridicule and mock things in order to provide a new perspective on them. Even then, George Carlin is known for his satire and generally anti politically correct ways of expressing ideas.

I was basically taught everything that’s man made is more or less making some kind of point or argument, so that basically applies to comedy as well
 
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The problem with posting a comedy show is it's a comedy show. It's designed to make people laugh, not provide a solid argument.
Someone hasn't seen the Onion yet.

https://youtu.be/LLugBAe7NwM
https://youtu.be/Zrm7W3zGSoA
 
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the Onion
posted on 2011 and 2010.
Makes sense, these don't look nearly as ridiculous as real news these days.

The Newsroom is another great one: https://youtu.be/V2a-sHHjY9Q

(off topic but is great nevertheless) https://youtu.be/6CXRaTnKDXA
 
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