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@Tamerlane Good morning.
1) Ah, I see now. I tried looking up ecological fallacy, but all the definitions were way too technical for me to understand them fully. Thanks for that. That's a valid point. This election isn't typical, and we'll only know if these allegations and rumors of fraud are true till it's over. We're almost certain to get a statistic in regards to the % of voter fraud this election. Like, I can't see anyone passing up that opportunity. I think using historical statistics to temper your expectations, rather than take them as cold hard fact, is a good strategy. But even if the % is higher than it's been in history, say .05%, do you really think that's enough to change the election results? That's what folks are banking on when they talk about electoral fraud.
2) What would cause an increase or decrease in voter fraud, I wonder? Seems like a crime so independent of the factors you listed that it wouldn't matter. Was it the .0009% statistic you were looking for? I can try and find it's source when I have some free time. I don't think it's necessary, though.
3) Absentee Ballot Fraud, as in people sending in ballots that aren't theirs? What other types of fraud would you think there are? I'm certain we can find out what security steps are in place to mitigate fraud of that type.
4) I'm not sure what you mean? Several of them are from the Trump campaign? Postmark case in PA, Observers in PA, Mail-in voter ID in PA, Observers/Signature Matching in NV, Late-Arriving Ballots in GA, and Observers in MI were all filed by the Trump campaign. Or are you saying the rejected ones aren't from the trump campaign? You're right that most are pending to be continued this upcoming week. In some of them the judges have expressed how pointless the case is. I mentioned I didn't realize how many there were because I'd only heard of the big ones and the ones that were rejected. I wouldn't say very many of them have a leg to stand on though, if you read about them. Not liking where you were placed as an observer, or being moved to the media area from the observer area when you want to take a picture aren't strong cases.
It's the small individual frivolous cases that I dislike. The postmark case in PA is an example of one I think might hold water. We'll see where the Antrim vote machines goes as well. Not sure if that'll go to court or if they'll recount in relevant areas. Here's the most up to date info I've found on it. Seems like it might be isolated:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/06/antrim-county-vote-glitch-software-update/6194745002/
1) Ah, I see now. I tried looking up ecological fallacy, but all the definitions were way too technical for me to understand them fully. Thanks for that. That's a valid point. This election isn't typical, and we'll only know if these allegations and rumors of fraud are true till it's over. We're almost certain to get a statistic in regards to the % of voter fraud this election. Like, I can't see anyone passing up that opportunity. I think using historical statistics to temper your expectations, rather than take them as cold hard fact, is a good strategy. But even if the % is higher than it's been in history, say .05%, do you really think that's enough to change the election results? That's what folks are banking on when they talk about electoral fraud.
2) What would cause an increase or decrease in voter fraud, I wonder? Seems like a crime so independent of the factors you listed that it wouldn't matter. Was it the .0009% statistic you were looking for? I can try and find it's source when I have some free time. I don't think it's necessary, though.
3) Absentee Ballot Fraud, as in people sending in ballots that aren't theirs? What other types of fraud would you think there are? I'm certain we can find out what security steps are in place to mitigate fraud of that type.
4) I'm not sure what you mean? Several of them are from the Trump campaign? Postmark case in PA, Observers in PA, Mail-in voter ID in PA, Observers/Signature Matching in NV, Late-Arriving Ballots in GA, and Observers in MI were all filed by the Trump campaign. Or are you saying the rejected ones aren't from the trump campaign? You're right that most are pending to be continued this upcoming week. In some of them the judges have expressed how pointless the case is. I mentioned I didn't realize how many there were because I'd only heard of the big ones and the ones that were rejected. I wouldn't say very many of them have a leg to stand on though, if you read about them. Not liking where you were placed as an observer, or being moved to the media area from the observer area when you want to take a picture aren't strong cases.
It's the small individual frivolous cases that I dislike. The postmark case in PA is an example of one I think might hold water. We'll see where the Antrim vote machines goes as well. Not sure if that'll go to court or if they'll recount in relevant areas. Here's the most up to date info I've found on it. Seems like it might be isolated:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/06/antrim-county-vote-glitch-software-update/6194745002/
