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@readingsit I think it was a combination of factors, but masks definitely help reduce infection rates.
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gas masks do if you replace the filter daily. the tiny piece of cloth you got for free from some store that wont let you in without one? no.
the m-95 people have reused for 5 days? no.
the m-95 but washed with a common washer instead of an industrial one? no.
the m-95 but on the very first day you got it? maybe, it depends how much in contact with infection you were. if everyone around you is a carrier it might last an hour before needing to be replaced or it might last 24 hours if there is a single passerby with an infection. after that the mask is compromised
btw neck gaiters actually help spread the disease dont use them
gas masks do if you replace the filter daily. the tiny piece of cloth you got for free from some store that wont let you in without one? no.
the m-95 people have reused for 5 days? no.
the m-95 but washed with a common washer instead of an industrial one? no.
the m-95 but on the very first day you got it? maybe, it depends how much in contact with infection you were. if everyone around you is a carrier it might last an hour before needing to be replaced or it might last 24 hours if there is a single passerby with an infection. after that the mask is compromised
btw neck gaiters actually help spread the disease dont use them
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Strictly speaking a properly fitted M-95 (And yes, they need to be fitted to your face) will likely help prevent a COVID infection if used with eye protection and proper sanitation. But you need a lot more exposure than one person to kill a mask.
The entire point of the masks was that it was supposed to help protect other folks from infecting others if they themselves were infected. I believe it was that aspect that the Dutch Study on Mask Efficacy had called into question and that's why I mentioned the whole 'false sense of security' with masks. More folks have likely been infected through surfaces than air exposure.
As an aside, both to get us away from the Cluster Fuck that is the Vaurus.
Texas kind of showed me exactly why I don't like Green Energy. Not because I dislike Wind and Solar, but because I can't help but look at the idea of a Solar and Wind farm and think its a massive waste of space, time, resources, and ecological effort.
You would be better off encouraging people to just put solar panels on their roofs.
The entire point of the masks was that it was supposed to help protect other folks from infecting others if they themselves were infected. I believe it was that aspect that the Dutch Study on Mask Efficacy had called into question and that's why I mentioned the whole 'false sense of security' with masks. More folks have likely been infected through surfaces than air exposure.
As an aside, both to get us away from the Cluster Fuck that is the Vaurus.
Texas kind of showed me exactly why I don't like Green Energy. Not because I dislike Wind and Solar, but because I can't help but look at the idea of a Solar and Wind farm and think its a massive waste of space, time, resources, and ecological effort.
You would be better off encouraging people to just put solar panels on their roofs.
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A better idea for energy sources would be to put anyone who has a useless degree (libarts) on hamster wheels at power plants.
>that's just slavery with extra steps
Yes, and?
>that's just slavery with extra steps
Yes, and?
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@M0NST3R I believe about 12 percent of Texas's power grid came from windmills that weren't winterized. In fact, not too much of the Texas power grid was winterized at all, which wouldn't have happened if they had to follow the rest of the nation's federal regulations. Texas's clusterfuck comes from more of a 'freedumb' and 'gubmint bad' than anything else. Hell, just look at the local power companies glee over price gouging their consumers during the crisis. Nothing like a power bill for hundreds/thousands of dollars to remind you how 'free' you are from business crushing federal power regulations.
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@Kaldrak I believe Mississippi and Oregon both also have about 500k people without power between them at the same time as Texas. So I think the storm is a bit more of a factor.
Though Texas is a somewhat complex case in terms of its power grid. It looks like ERCOT is responsible for most of the fuckup.
https://youtu.be/bfLr1Lkp69c
Full disclosure, the guy is an ANCAP but the content matches up. He just collected the information together the best.
Honestly though, this is why I back nuclear and a decentralized power grid. Have buildings with Solar Panels but supplement everything with a nuclear power plant.
Though Texas is a somewhat complex case in terms of its power grid. It looks like ERCOT is responsible for most of the fuckup.
https://youtu.be/bfLr1Lkp69c
Full disclosure, the guy is an ANCAP but the content matches up. He just collected the information together the best.
Honestly though, this is why I back nuclear and a decentralized power grid. Have buildings with Solar Panels but supplement everything with a nuclear power plant.
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i entirely support the idea of moving away from fossil fuels and into green energy. the real question is 'which?' and the only gree energy that has any beneficial historical consistency is geothermal, water, and the big baddie himself nuclear.
solar panels are nice and all in the moment but the amount of harm to the environment that making such a panel is ignored by the green lunatics. and what happens when a solar panel expires? thats right! solar panels do not last forever. and boy-oh-boy are those things harmful to the environment when you throw them out and to make things worse they are not recyclable!
wind power is nice in deserts but useless everywhere else. texas is facing that problem head on right now but even if it wasnt wind power will never be able to keep up with the power demands of humanity
support a powersource that is actually able to keep up with power demands or fossil fuels will remain our go-to. nuclear is cleaner then fossil fuels by leaps and bounds but it is made out to be the worlds boogie-man because of soviet russia being stupid and maybe even because many of the green activists dont actually care about getting rid of fossil fuels they just want a problem to rail against and if we fix that problem they wont be able to rail against it.
solar panels are nice and all in the moment but the amount of harm to the environment that making such a panel is ignored by the green lunatics. and what happens when a solar panel expires? thats right! solar panels do not last forever. and boy-oh-boy are those things harmful to the environment when you throw them out and to make things worse they are not recyclable!
wind power is nice in deserts but useless everywhere else. texas is facing that problem head on right now but even if it wasnt wind power will never be able to keep up with the power demands of humanity
support a powersource that is actually able to keep up with power demands or fossil fuels will remain our go-to. nuclear is cleaner then fossil fuels by leaps and bounds but it is made out to be the worlds boogie-man because of soviet russia being stupid and maybe even because many of the green activists dont actually care about getting rid of fossil fuels they just want a problem to rail against and if we fix that problem they wont be able to rail against it.
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@readingsit If Texas's power grid was connected to the rest of the states, a lot of this wouldn't have happened. Your point?
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@readingsit Ah, so your entire point is b-but w-wh-whatabout the other side! Them baaaad. Got it.
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Your point was the government can fix it, when the government would do a worse job. The government has no qualifications that would help maintain a power grid
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@Kaldrak Mississippi and Oregon had places losing power precisely because of that.
And that doesn't necessarily cover the extremely bad energy policy that has come out of California either.
Most of their energy that comes from out of state is made with Fossil Fuels.
This was after they shut down a nuclear plant because in-state policy made it too expensive to operate and too expensive to upgrade.
Here's an example of a fairly low cost option that is being kept from implementation by government policy from the cold war:
https://youtu.be/cbrT3m89Y3M
For some God forsaken reason we still require powerplants to have the capability to convert themselves to Uranium Enrichment sites for Nuclear Weapon production.
That adds cost because that is significantly harder to do than using Uranium to boil water.
And that doesn't necessarily cover the extremely bad energy policy that has come out of California either.
Most of their energy that comes from out of state is made with Fossil Fuels.
This was after they shut down a nuclear plant because in-state policy made it too expensive to operate and too expensive to upgrade.
Here's an example of a fairly low cost option that is being kept from implementation by government policy from the cold war:
https://youtu.be/cbrT3m89Y3M
For some God forsaken reason we still require powerplants to have the capability to convert themselves to Uranium Enrichment sites for Nuclear Weapon production.
That adds cost because that is significantly harder to do than using Uranium to boil water.
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@Hornyturtle More 'gubmint bad' talk. Libertarians seem to believe that the government is Satan and that the free market is God. Ridiculous.
@M0NST3R And I believe that Texas couldn't use some of their nuclear power plants because the damn coolant water froze. As I mentioned before, they didn't winterize anything, which would've been required by federal regulations if they were a part of the national power grid. Also they would have been able to draw power from other parts of the grid and lessened the impact of the storm. You would say this is fairly accurate, yes? So what exactly is your point?
Pertaining to your other point about wind power, might I point out that Alaska and some other places that are very cold manage to have working wind farms?
@M0NST3R And I believe that Texas couldn't use some of their nuclear power plants because the damn coolant water froze. As I mentioned before, they didn't winterize anything, which would've been required by federal regulations if they were a part of the national power grid. Also they would have been able to draw power from other parts of the grid and lessened the impact of the storm. You would say this is fairly accurate, yes? So what exactly is your point?
Pertaining to your other point about wind power, might I point out that Alaska and some other places that are very cold manage to have working wind farms?
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@wowfucktron Libertarians have the issue of being fundamentally unable to provide a unified answer people want to hear concerning important questions.
Nobody wants to hear "Foreign wars wouldn't be an issue with a Libertarian president" when you are already involved in two. Its the same reason Lassiez-faire Free Market economists have a hard time getting through to people, you need to have a right now answer that let's people feel they have control over their lives.
@Kaldrak I'm telling you Texas was federally compliant and that having them hooked to a national grid would have done functionally nothing. Your argument is basically saying "Texas isn't to code" when they are. California is too. My point is you have no point.
Nobody wants to hear "Foreign wars wouldn't be an issue with a Libertarian president" when you are already involved in two. Its the same reason Lassiez-faire Free Market economists have a hard time getting through to people, you need to have a right now answer that let's people feel they have control over their lives.
@Kaldrak I'm telling you Texas was federally compliant and that having them hooked to a national grid would have done functionally nothing. Your argument is basically saying "Texas isn't to code" when they are. California is too. My point is you have no point.
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no my point is between the options of:
lose power because it gets hot in summer(gov'ment gud)
or
lose power because of an event that occurs every 100 or so years(gov'ment bad)
they seem to have chosen the lesser of two evils. now that this event has occured they will hopefully learn from it and prevent it from happening again. meanwhile government policy is sacrosanct so califonia does nothing no matter how many times they face outages.
no my point is between the options of:
lose power because it gets hot in summer(gov'ment gud)
or
lose power because of an event that occurs every 100 or so years(gov'ment bad)
they seem to have chosen the lesser of two evils. now that this event has occured they will hopefully learn from it and prevent it from happening again. meanwhile government policy is sacrosanct so califonia does nothing no matter how many times they face outages.
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@Kaldrak You don't seem to understand what it was they were saying. Texas' electrical grid still had to comply with Federal Regulations and is still regulated by the Federal Government. Just because they have their own grid and their own state level regulatory body doesn't change the fact they followed the necessary guidelines brought out by the Feds. The aspects they didn't want to comply with were basically cosmetic regulations. The entire reason the rolling blackouts were done in Texas was at the behest of ERCOT, who was matching what the 14 surrounding states were doing, who are on the larger electrical grids. Power companies in Texas said as much, ERCOT said as much, everyone else said as much.
You are sitting here stumping for regulations that don't exist. If Texas is going to be criticized for not Winterproofing electrical stations in Southern Texas, an area that hasn't seen snow in more than 100 years, so do the states that had to have rolling blackouts.
Video relevant: https://youtu.be/fzl6x9_hYs0
You are sitting here stumping for regulations that don't exist. If Texas is going to be criticized for not Winterproofing electrical stations in Southern Texas, an area that hasn't seen snow in more than 100 years, so do the states that had to have rolling blackouts.
Video relevant: https://youtu.be/fzl6x9_hYs0
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