The Politics Megathread

[Richman]

@Stupid_Goo
Halo all the way! The Arbiter is my husbando.

 

[immortalartisan]

@Xennith I can see why people prefer it over south park I’ll take snappy musical pieces over blood and gore.

 

[Stupid_Goo]

@Richman ; Yeah lol, cool dude.
Halo honestly died to me after 4 released tbh, they went CoD route.
CoD itself needs to die cuz toxic.
Battlefield is an okay game but like... too many tryhards.

 

[Richman]

@Stupid_Goo
I have hope in Infinite.

4 Was decent... in the campaign at least, multiplayer died fast.
5 was bad... in the campaign, very much so. Warzone was fun until clans ruined it, but the multiplayer definitely was the best part and forge has never been better.

 

[Tamerlane]

@immortalartisan

Legalize and end the war on drugs. It will solve most of our problems.

@Richman @Stupid_Goo

As a Halo fan and lore enthusiast, I just need infinite to be well written.

I love Halo 4's story but hate Halo 5's.

 

[Richman]

@Tamerlane
Lol you still use drugs? Avocado trafficking is the future, my man.

 

[Hornyturtle]

@stupid_Goo they're toxic because they care. Playing with people who don't care sucks hard. Too much indifference/good feelings leads to a dead game

 

[immortalartisan]

@Tamerlane

Yes the solution is regulation!

 

[Tamerlane]

@Richman

Fun fact:

Guacamole comes from the Nahuatl word "ahuacamolli," which means "Avocado sauce"

But where does Avocado mean come from?

Spoiler

"āhuacatl" which means "testicle" in Nahuatl


So "Guacamole" means "testicle sauce."

@immortalartisan

Turn black markets into white markets and you care much more easily able to regulate it effectively and make sure business practices are ethical.

 

[Richman]

I mean, have you seen the size of those seeds?

 

[Stupid_Goo]

@Tamerlane ; that's why avocados are known to

Spoiler

increase your baby batter count and promote healthy batter. 👀

 

[readingsit]

@Stupid_Goo

dunno if I wasn't supposed to ping Richman seeing my Notifs said I had a ping from them, but readingsit doesn't sit well with me, so... 👀

not sure what i did to deserve that but nutman451 described my view on drawn 18+ stuff pretty well so i would have pretty much said somthing similar if you had pinged me

You ever hear of subliminal messaging?

subliminal messaging works very similarly to hypnosis. unless you are open to the prospects pushed by the hypnosis you will reject it and snap out of it.

your example of

what do you think having a whole town of guys whistling and catcalling in a musical towards a bunch of "hot girls" wearing "modestly" provocative outfits is?

thats too broad to even fit into 'subliminal messaging' because its up to interpretation. perhaps you see it as a means to goad men into acting in such ways but perhaps its also a statement on how all men are pigs or how current society mistreats women. too many interpretations for it to fit the bill for subliminal messaging

now lets do

How about that little short fat guy with Gaston (iirc the antagonist's name in Beauty and the Beast) being kicked around and flat-out ignored while he's ogling?

it can be a statement that ogling results in you being mistreated, short obese people are mistreated, only being a suck-up will get you no-where good, if your short and fat then your probably also a pervert, etc. too many interpretations for it to be a subliminal message.

thats why the most famous examples of subliminal messaging are occasional frames that are replaced with a single sentence pasted on screen, to avoid confusion in the subject. no these are simply depictions of how the characters would act should they exist and just like how a guy at applebees loudly accosting a waitress while a family waits for their food irl isnt subliminal messaging these events arent either

seek real help on it

seek help on what? their fetishes? i thought society had collectively assured itself that what they are sexually attracted to cannot change? if their sexual attraction cannot change then what help would they get? conversion therapy isnt widely recognized as a good thing after all

@Richman

weed is wack and i couldn't care less.

same, my man

@Hornyturtle

Once a country gets too big It's almost guaranteed to collapse due to greed and incompetence

size is not the problem, time is. a world under a single government and a tiny island government both would last about 100 years before beuracracy starts to muddy the government system then its just a game of chance to see how much longer both can last as its gears grind to a halt.

@Tamerlane

"āhuacatl" which means "testicle" in Nahuatl

i heard about that too, when i did it really made me think "you know, maybe some knowledge should be forbidden"

 

[okdudeswow]

@Tamerlane
Bud I tottaly understand the poem, I just think it's completely missing the point to use a poem about systemic opression of minorities, when defending a book that is well, racist. When I talk about good faith, I'm saying the people acting may THINK they're doing the right thing by delisting something that seems to promote stereotypes. Would you pull out that poem again when someone censors Mein Kampf or the Turner Diaries?

I like how you completely ignored the whole Nazi textbook example even though that was most relevant to that famous poem. What do you think the closest thing to a "textbook" children have? You can defend the status quo all you want, but it doesn't change that the current state of the education system is poor. Had to kick another anti-masker out of the store yesterday, and he started yelling racist shit at everyone (even though I'm white lol). For the record, I'm damn glad Trump isn't tweeting to make it worse. I've been physically attacked by these idiots.

And yes, sometimes small political groups push political change contrary to the moderate majority. Soemtimes its good, sometimes its bad.

 

[readingsit]

@okdudeswow

I just think it's completely missing the point to use a poem about systemic opression of minorities

if the poem was about minorities then it would end at "Then they came for the Jews" but it doesnt. it ends with "Then they came for me" clearly indicating that it doesnt matter race, religion, or creed authoritarians will come for you eventually if you dont speak out against them while you still can.

Would you pull out that poem again when someone censors Mein Kampf or the Turner Diaries

YES, authoritarians come in many forms. even if you support them against other authoritarians all your doing is giving them a foot-hold to eventually come for you. this is the equivalent of "First they came for the socialists". dont let them come for the socialists

Had to kick another anti-masker out of the store yesterday

not sure how this is related to the topic at hand. yes both sides of the mask debate have crazies here is an example of it going the other way.

 

[Stupid_Goo]

@readingsit ; because your name has sit in it and it doesn't sit well with me 🤔👀 s'a joke.

And yes, subliminal messaging - but we're past this conversation because it was about to hit very sore points.

And yes, help with their urges and suppressing them, but I digress - apparently speaking of it is taboo and pushing them into corners isn't helping, but let's move on.

On the other note, that poem also apparently r/whoosh 'd over heads - I thought the point of that was that the system in question just kept silencing larger groups and eventually targeted the smaller ones because that's how it starts; they take out their biggest and more volatile threats, then eventually move to quietly and quickly destroy any and all nay-sayers in the name of defending themselves because fuck freedom of speech.

 

[wowfucktron]

@readingsit

"I'm burning in hell, because you killed me."

 

[okdudeswow]

@readingsit
bud the poem is about the HOLOCAUST
trying to say it isn't about them is absurd

"both sides have crazies" yes but one doesn't believe in basic facts because of misinformation, and calls to violence.

 

[Stupid_Goo]

Funfact: Hitler was rejected from entering an art college because his mother was Jewish, so began his slow descent into hating and eventually mass-murdering Jews while an insane and diabolical "doctor" experimented on identical twins in hopes of discovering some sort of telepathic communication, along with other things.

The more you know.

 

[readingsit]

@Stupid_Goo

because your name has sit in it and it doesn't sit well with me 🤔👀 s'a joke.

...fuck im stupid. that whoosh 'd me so hard XD

I thought the point of that was that the system in question just kept silencing larger groups and eventually targeted the smaller ones because that's how it starts; they take out their biggest and more volatile threats, then eventually move to quietly and quickly destroy any and all nay-sayers in the name of defending themselves because fuck freedom of speech.

you got it about right, the breakdown pretty much goes
First they came for the socialists- the night of long knives where hitler killer his supporters that were dangerous to his continued rule
Then they came for the trade unionists- May 2, 1933 Hitler Abolishes Unions and has union leaders arrested and put in prison or concentration camps
Then they came for the Jews- the holocaust
Then they came for me- at this point there is no longer any layman able to have a neutral opinion or worse of the nazi party. you either supported them or were an enemy to be oppressed

@wowfucktron
im glad you liked my link
freedomtoons makes some good content

@okdudeswow

trying to say it isn't about them is absurd

whats absurd that you think that everything that talks about the nazi's is about the holocaust. this poem mentions it but it's not about it

yes but one doesn't believe in basic facts because of misinformation, and calls to violence.

pot meet kettle

Hitler was rejected from entering an art college because his mother was Jewish

really? i heard some historians thought his grandmother was jewish but as for why he was rejected it was just because they didnt think he was good enough and hitler had a hissy-fit because he thought the people who denied him were jewish. but all that is just somthing i heard from a professor a many years ago so it might be old info

 

[Stupid_Goo]

@readingsit ;
Ohhhhh. Makes more sense.
Apparently he loved his mother to bits and a Jewish doctor essentially inadvertently killed her, via some sort of drug that was treatment for breast cancer back then, which endes up being pretty bad.
And so began his regime to "kill all the juice." 👀
Thank Google.