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@Degernase
well YouTube is supposedly "breaking even" or operating at a "small" loss according to an anonymous inside source, of course "small" for a multi million company like Google is still a lot of money.
As far as I know thought Google have never publicly posted the real hard data about it thought, so while I can't say you are wrong. I don't think you could prove yourself right.
Its a pretty unreliable information and for the sake of the argument don't really matter for the point I was making, But if you do find some let me know.
IF Google is losing money on YouTube it's not considered a lot of money to them as they expects to make up for it with extra "awareness" as you put it. Or they would sell it / close it down.
They did not get to where they are now by running bad businesses.
as for the reason why YouTube have gotten worse, I wouldn't blame on the ads system itself, I would blame it on the algorithm that controls who gets recommended what and the system behind that.
The current version incentivises long and mass produced videos that can be uploaded regularly.
This makes it so "home made" videos gets drowned out by groups or companies that actually can upload multiple videos in a week unlike hobby creators who does it for fun every now and then.
this is because its gives YouTube and Google more money in theory.(and likely in practice too, but again we can't say for sure without hard data).
the current system does have a few good points to it as well outside of getting google more money but i dont think you particularly care and this wall of text is long enough.
I should mention thought that most of the stupid things that have happened recently is needed because of US laws and I wholeheartedly agree that the changes made are stupid.
But for Google itself the options are fairly limited as they can't just ignore them, if you know anything about international laws about things on the internet you would know that.
But again, this is pretty irrelevant to the argument i was making as well.
I was pointing out the fact that if everybody used add blockers or only read manga and comics online for free the industry that makes them would shrink A LOT or disappear completely.
That and the fact that people are way happier paying for their content by wasting their time then with actual money.
The idea to fund YouTube with ads is in itself a pretty consumer friendly option, they have to make money somehow after all or the site would be a charity and not a business.
Nothing is truly free on the internet as you end up paying for it one way or another, be it Bitcoin mining, ads all over the pages, stolen computing power or real life information or actual fees paid with money.
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R
Youtube is trash because of Google and not ads, I kinda agree with you but that was not really the point I was making anyway.
i was pointing out the Ads as a system to pay for "free" content is a mostly consumer friendly system if done right but when its not its cancerous like everything else.
like for example when you have to watch a 10 minute ad to watch a 4 minute video then it's pretty terrible.....
well YouTube is supposedly "breaking even" or operating at a "small" loss according to an anonymous inside source, of course "small" for a multi million company like Google is still a lot of money.
As far as I know thought Google have never publicly posted the real hard data about it thought, so while I can't say you are wrong. I don't think you could prove yourself right.
Its a pretty unreliable information and for the sake of the argument don't really matter for the point I was making, But if you do find some let me know.
IF Google is losing money on YouTube it's not considered a lot of money to them as they expects to make up for it with extra "awareness" as you put it. Or they would sell it / close it down.
They did not get to where they are now by running bad businesses.
as for the reason why YouTube have gotten worse, I wouldn't blame on the ads system itself, I would blame it on the algorithm that controls who gets recommended what and the system behind that.
The current version incentivises long and mass produced videos that can be uploaded regularly.
This makes it so "home made" videos gets drowned out by groups or companies that actually can upload multiple videos in a week unlike hobby creators who does it for fun every now and then.
this is because its gives YouTube and Google more money in theory.(and likely in practice too, but again we can't say for sure without hard data).
the current system does have a few good points to it as well outside of getting google more money but i dont think you particularly care and this wall of text is long enough.
I should mention thought that most of the stupid things that have happened recently is needed because of US laws and I wholeheartedly agree that the changes made are stupid.
But for Google itself the options are fairly limited as they can't just ignore them, if you know anything about international laws about things on the internet you would know that.
But again, this is pretty irrelevant to the argument i was making as well.
I was pointing out the fact that if everybody used add blockers or only read manga and comics online for free the industry that makes them would shrink A LOT or disappear completely.
That and the fact that people are way happier paying for their content by wasting their time then with actual money.
The idea to fund YouTube with ads is in itself a pretty consumer friendly option, they have to make money somehow after all or the site would be a charity and not a business.
Nothing is truly free on the internet as you end up paying for it one way or another, be it Bitcoin mining, ads all over the pages, stolen computing power or real life information or actual fees paid with money.
TL
R Youtube is trash because of Google and not ads, I kinda agree with you but that was not really the point I was making anyway.
i was pointing out the Ads as a system to pay for "free" content is a mostly consumer friendly system if done right but when its not its cancerous like everything else.
like for example when you have to watch a 10 minute ad to watch a 4 minute video then it's pretty terrible.....
