Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu - Vol. 13 Ch. 87 - The Myriad Colors

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:notlikethis: gae level 9000. Also it's nice to hear an isekai MC trying Togo back to his old world. I remember back when I got introduced to the genre it felt so awkward that none of them bother to search for a way to go back home and get busy playing games
 
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Wants to return home. WTF is up with the people who write this shit?

Why write a power fantasy where the MC is just about a god in the other world (with plenty of conveniences, and of course Japanese food), yet for some insane reason the MC is hellbent on dropping all of that (along with their new friends) and returning to a world where they're just Joe Blow?

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It's probably something like 30 years on that world is only 1 year on Earth. That would put 1,000 years (33 Earth years) around the 1990s, which is when the Super Nintendo/Famicom was out and 16bit RPGs were popular in Japan.

Also that would mean that Makoto's entire Isekai adventure so far has only taken place the same morning that he left Eatth.
But his parents have been on earth for something like 20 years. So that would mean that they left that world 600 years ago. And random girl from their country just happened to know their story, even though they achieved no special prominence. And then fails to mention "Oh, BTW these people were from 600 years ago." when telling her story. Okay sure, the author can pull that, but that would be an asspull.
 
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They don't need to keep all hymans in check. Root want to "trim" hymans with most dangerous mindset. Those greedy, who always want more of something. And are ready to choose the path of vilence for it.
Logic doesn't really work. It would be more of a stupidity filter than a greed filter. Or more accurately stupidity+greed. Meanwhile the system makes smart+greedy people more powerful.
 
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He's just using it as a metaphor, if you sudden got abducted by aliens and they were little green men most people would think "ofc they are that's how they're always described in stories" instead of "how do they look exactly like I imagined them to be?". It's a forest for the tree's situation where you don't question the mundane in an extraordinary environment because it's a literary staple.
The problem is that if dropped into a fantasy world, then you don't have the "common sense" of that world at all. So you won't have the ability to judge what is and isn't reasonable.

E.g. you walk up to a tree and it starts a conversation with you. Do you think that's reasonable? Trees can't talk. Or are you thinking that just because "Treants" are a staple of some fantasy stories, then it's reasonable to find them in another world? Same with elves, dwarves, language comprehension, blessing of gods, and every other fantasy trope. So on what basis are you deciding that elves, dwarves, dragons are all fine, but adventure guilds and a leveling system aren't?
 
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dude just come in and announce hes gay, must be awful to sit in that room
 
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I will end up reading the novels just because I can hardly wait 1 month between releases, even when Sokeki has gloriously caught up to the raws :meguuusad:
 
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it's pretty clear that the time difference would make it so that he shows up a couple weeks to a couple of months after he was summoned depending on how many years it takes him. lets say root's first husband was summoned in the late 80s to early 90s on earth and that was 1000 years ago on this planet, that would mean that it takes about 1000 years for anywhere between 19~25 years to pass on earth. makoto would really not have missed much of anything if he does return back to earth even if he spends another 10 years before figuring out how. btw i'm using the year 2012 as the year makoto was summoned since that's when the novel started. the fact this is from 2012 makes your hatred of the return trope pretty funny since that was way before that trope got popularized.
It's even funnier when you realize just how nuanced it is in this story, such that it actually makes sense, unlike many of the others that just tap the trope for no reason.
 
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Logic doesn't really work. It would be more of a stupidity filter than a greed filter. Or more accurately stupidity+greed. Meanwhile the system makes smart+greedy people more powerful.
You're correct and this is exactly that Root is doing. He's not trying to make hymans extinct, he cares about world balance. Most of hymans are arrogant, greedy and stupid, yet powerful, as reflection of their Goddess and her blessing. Hymans that are smart enough realize their shortcomings and often act in different ways than most (not saying they are benevolent or something). So Root have no issues with them.

Problem with hymans (as species) is that blessing allow them to overcome most challenges without much effort, so they never learn. Since Root can't remove the blessing, he is trying to at least remove most dangerous hymans.
 
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Logic doesn't really work. It would be more of a stupidity filter than a greed filter. Or more accurately stupidity+greed. Meanwhile the system makes smart+greedy people more powerful.
That's exactly the case. It's the ones who are too greedy to see their limitations and reach for more than they can handle that are trimmed. Those who understand their limits and rein in their greed get to keep the rewards. It's like one of those game shows where the person walks away with the million dollars instead of gambling it all on door #3, or on whatever's in the box, and so on and so forth.
 
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But his parents have been on earth for something like 20 years. So that would mean that they left that world 600 years ago. And random girl from their country just happened to know their story, even though they achieved no special prominence. And then fails to mention "Oh, BTW these people were from 600 years ago." when telling her story. Okay sure, the author can pull that, but that would be an asspull.
The correct answer is: it isn't a different flow of time issue like assumed. You can see moving through worlds and moving through time as kinda the same thing. Time may flow, but they could pull someone from the period they want while they are already opening the border between worlds. You could think of time as another coordinate in this.
 
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every one of you reacting dumb to this is a moron
Fr you can literally see the gender fluid oozing out of his eyes

It has nothing to do with your particular notion of what gender is, and your ideology around that. Root is not simply choosing from a different set of Gender Roles and declaring himself the gender associated with said roles, merely putting himself into a different cookie cutter. Root can actually change his his very sex. Therefore your silly label (a poor substitute for individuality absent adherence to Gender Roles) doesn't apply.

But your ideology itself is deeply flawed, starting with the underlying premise of your gender being a key part of your "identity". To start with, what you are =/= who you are. It is a mistake to conflate them. Root is a perfect example of the folly of seeing it as "a man/woman on the inside". Root can change, and regardless of being a man or a woman at that moment, Root is the same person on the inside. But even if they couldn't change their body, this isn't the sort of person who's going to limit their actions - trying to "pass" etc - according to notions of gender and their associated Gender Roles. Root is an unapologetic individual who doesn't care - not even slightly - what <insert gender> is supposed to do/feel, and that's exactly how it should be with everyone.

Your labels are in fact stupid, and regressive. You just don't see it. Divorce your "identity" from Gender Roles, and live however makes you happy, to the degree that you harm no other person.
 
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Wants to return home. WTF is up with the people who write this shit?

Why write a power fantasy where the MC is just about a god in the other world (with plenty of conveniences, and of course Japanese food), yet for some insane reason the MC is hellbent on dropping all of that (along with their new friends) and returning to a world where they're just Joe Blow?

Effing Isekai Tourists!
Because Makoto prefers being a regular Joe. His life was simple. School, Family, Archery. He wants things simple. He hates complicated, plus he has ties to his world and his life didn't suck. He wants to return to all that because being in the spotlight is too frustrating for him and take away from him simply wanting to live a peaceful, uneventful life
 
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so no one is going to mention his experiment torture lab? they all seem to just focus on him being the guild leader and him attacking lime...
It wasn't his lab. He just wanted to test lime strength, but since he detected those guys coming, he quickly defeated lime and dips out. He is not affiliated to anything other than the Guild. The Guild to him is just like the Period Drama to Tomoe.
 

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