The thing is the MC thinks no decent person would flirt, which I think is stupid. Also characters have to interact in a romance or in a story in general, forced or otherwise so that there is a plot.No one's saying that all flirting is a sin, though I think that it's important to keep in mind that in Japan, more so than anywhere else, public displays of affection are strongly frowned upon, even between couples that are already together, which likely contributes to the level of what's considered unacceptable when you don't know the person.
Also relevant is the fact that in both of the scenarios you've described, elevators and public transport are both places where you're standing still for a time. If you talk to someone there, there're not usually doing anything else in the same way someone on the street is going somewhere. So socializing is more acceptable in these cases. Especially considering the fact that some people find silence awkward, it may even be expected.
And in the cliche "bumping into each other on the street" scenario, no one's flirting. It's almost always a brief "sorry" followed by an actual meeting later. Plus, the characters are being forced to interact; there's no intentional decision there to criticize.
But even still, context. Because, yes, people can fall in love on the street, but that doesn't mean that flirting with random girls on the street isn't harassment.
No he doesn't. Reread the chapter.The thing is the MC thinks no decent person would flirt, which I think is stupid.
That's fair. Though your hostility is unwelcomed.No he doesn't. Reread the chapter.
The closest he comes to saying it is "a proper guy wouldn't hit on her to begin with," but this is, again, a moment where you need to take context into account. This is an older guy hitting on a girl that he does not know in a school uniform in the middle of the street. If he were "proper," he would not do that, and would rather be hitting on someone in a more appropriate context.
i.e. In a bar, to someone he's spoken to before, to someone that's not walking home from school, to someone that's not a child, &c.
Sorry if I came across as hostile, it was not my intent.That's fair. Though your hostility is unwelcomed.
Understandable. I will point out that in Japan that us pirating manga like this is very much a crime and they do not care for our concept of pirating. In fact the Japanese would rather block us from reading and watching series that have not have official channels if they could, like this manga for example. I personally do not equate pirating series with actual theft.Sorry if I came across as hostile, it was not my intent.
Surely you can understand how the way you're responding might feel a bit frustrating, though? You're repeating the same thing over and over that manga as a genre is "anti-flirting" because of the commonality of "demonizing" adult pick-up artists trying to bang highschool girls.
I don't know if you noticed, but it really comes across as if you're defending this behavior, and intentionally broadening the scope of a topic is a very common tactic used by people trying to argue more controversial opinions while appearing otherwise. (Often to limit success.) i.e. "You think that pirating is sometimes okay? So you think that it should be legal to steal a car?"
I'm not saying that this applies to you, but it looks like it does, and the act it appears as if you are trying to condone is harassing young girls on street. It's a bad look, so it'd probably be a good idea for you to be a bit more self aware in that regard if you want to prevent things like this in the future. Doesn't mean you can't argue this position, though you should just be a bit more careful about how you look while doing so.
“no one is saying all flirting is a sin” brother, that is quite literally what the MC of this manga said during the altercation lolNo one's saying that all flirting is a sin, though I think that it's important to keep in mind that in Japan, more so than anywhere else, public displays of affection are strongly frowned upon, even between couples that are already together, which likely contributes to the level of what's considered unacceptable when you don't know the person.
Also relevant is the fact that in both of the scenarios you've described, elevators and public transport are both places where you're standing still for a time. If you talk to someone there, there're not usually doing anything else in the same way someone on the street is going somewhere. So socializing is more acceptable in these cases. Especially considering the fact that some people find silence awkward, it may even be expected.
And in the cliche "bumping into each other on the street" scenario, no one's flirting. It's almost always a brief "sorry" followed by an actual meeting later. Plus, the characters are being forced to interact; there's no intentional decision there to criticize.
But even still, context. Because, yes, people can fall in love on the street, but that doesn't mean that flirting with random girls on the street isn't harassment.
No, it isn't. He says one thing about one scenario, but you're fallaciously expanding that into him condemning flirting as a whole, making it appear as if you have some stake in conflating harassing young girls on the street and flirting in socially acceptable scenarios.“no one is saying all flirting is a sin” brother, that is quite literally what the MC of this manga said during the altercation lol
You might be right cuz in most of shounen manga there's the FMC hitting on the protagonist although the MC is too dense to even catch their drift. But the notion of guys hitting on girls is always portrayed as some playboy-ish man bothering the FMC saying something along the lines of "Wanna go have fun" or "Fool around". But if want to see the Male lead make an effort to try and win the girl, then shounen isn't the pick. Cuz all they do is be kind and dense and all girls will fall for them anyways. It's a royal rumble from there on or just straight up catch em all.Guys should be allowed to hit on girls, its kinda annoying that guys wanting to hit on girls is so demonized in manga or anime. Its one thing its hitting on a person in a relationship, but if a person is single, then people can shoot their shot, either failed or score.
That indeed is the one thing about this setup that's at least somewhat novel. It's usually regular high school girls who work as maids (conveniently for a male classmate's household), not maids going undercover as high school girls. Though even the latter is not unheard of, even with this specific hair color. Maybe the author is a disappointed Hayasaka superfan?The biggest plot twist is that her normal hair are the blonde ones when she is in maid form. I thought it was the opposite
Well at least she puts more effort into the transformation different hair colour different look and attitude.Clark Kent's got nothing on Saotome/Maria.
Considering they are the same person it's pretty funny but I wonder if it's possible that he could get feelings for the maid side and feel he's being unfaithful to his feelings for herThe fucking nerve of this dude. He dares to fall for other girls when he has such a cute maid at home. 😭
Yeah and then they attack women and it's wrote off as nothing happened happened they run away to strike again some other day but at least the male lead protected the female lead from thugs.Guys should be allowed to hit on girls, its kinda annoying that guys wanting to hit on girls is so demonized in manga or anime. Its one thing its hitting on a person in a relationship, but if a person is single, then people can shoot their shot, either failed or score.
Edit: Reminder we are all pirates. If we follow everything on what the Japanese want then none of us would be reading this manga in the first place. Japan wishes death on all manga aggregator sites.
You can argue its not theft to the Japanese they won't care, we get purges for a reason.
And they view piracy worse the flirting with random people on the street. They consider digital piracy a serious criminal offense.
Strike my posts and call me dumb all you want the fact remains, Japan will still hate pirates more then dudes who do unwanted flirting.
Luckily chapter 2 is out already hopefully the later won't happen it's hard to hook people and a lot of stuff gets sadly dropped either by the creator or by the translation teamseems pretty nice, now lets wait 3 months for the next chapter and 9 more for it to be dropped