Uchuujin no Kakushigoto - Vol. 3 Ch. 16 - Different Views

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You are all overreacting
She has the same memories
The only difference is that she was modified to "not cause any trouble"
So if alien girl didnt just randomly decide to do that on her own there would be no discernible difference

Brother you have no idea what you are talking about
We "cloned" like one sheep as proof of concept by basically putting its dna into an egg cell and implanting that into a female
There is no practical application for this much less for humans cause this is functionally no different than artificial insemination

Side note its pretty funny how often manga focus on bullying and make it out to be hell on earth really goes to show what kind of kids turn into mangaka
Bro.. artificial insemination and cloning is two different thing.. Artificial insemination need two individual, but cloning only need one.. It's not an insemination if they came from one individual. That's the difference..

And the sheep that you mention is already an old study.. there is a lot more than that right now.. I know this because I already studied on this kind of topic at university..

For Example there's one recently :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9249891/

If you didn't know what cloning is just read this :
https://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/cloning/whatiscloning/?source=post_page---------------------
 
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The fuckin' gut punches keep coming. How long till the AI decides the best course of action is to off itself? Or perhaps as a rational actor... move to end it's bullying by "replacing" people.
 
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This has become pretty misery porn and there basically hasn't been anything making it seem like the mood is ever going to expand beyond that and become pretty one-note because of it, so I guess I'm good for any more of it.
 
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What do you mean never? You never heard of it before?
I know it exist because I'm a biologist and basically seen one in action before with animals..
It's not exactly a cloning machine with AI like in this manga but cloning already exist in real world and real thing.. It exactly as I said before it already been done with Animals but not human.. Because y'now Ethics..

It even already writen on Wikipedia..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_animal_cloning

Or if you want some research I can share some..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117031/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9249891/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6469371/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5109382/

It's not superstitious, it's science..
I saw the womb engine being produced at JAPAN to combat infertility but it has no babies made yet this is why I am skeptic. Until I saw those 👶 get out of the engine I remain skeptic about human clones.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/09/15/world/science-health/world-first-artificial-womb/
 
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The fuckin' gut punches keep coming. How long till the AI decides the best course of action is to off itself? Or perhaps as a rational actor... move to end it's bullying by "replacing" people.
Maybe she will seggs class rep then the class rape happens.

PS most likely Haru will just blow up the classroom, judging they are scum. Then MC will just make it a terrorist attack, politician and all.
 
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I'm confused why the whole revival plan is considered botched from the start? A clone with her memories is exactly what he was expecting from the start, and the reason he's freaking out is because her personality has taken a complete shift. But the change in personality was completely Haru's doing, stating that she was  optimized to not cause trouble. So he should still be mad at Haru, lmao.
I think he was expecting her to be "resurrected" not "replaced with a clone". It's one of those transporter paradox thingies. The fact that Haru doesn't see a distinction between "brought back to life" vs. "replaced with copy" shows that her way of thinking is completely "alien" (lololololol).

I really to to secure a stable supply of copium for whenever the next chapter drops.
 
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The poor clone didn't even do anything,yet she is bullied ruthlessly. If anyone is responsible for all these tragedies, directly or indirectly, it's the mc. Even now he won't make a move to help karagaki though he knows the truth.

Also why is the goddamn comedy tag still there
 
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I think he was expecting her to be "resurrected" not "replaced with a clone". It's one of those transporter paradox thingies. The fact that Haru doesn't see a distinction between "brought back to life" vs. "replaced with copy" shows that her way of thinking is completely "alien" (lololololol).

I really to to secure a stable supply of copium for whenever the next chapter drops.
At least there is a steady supply of Karagaki.
 
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I don't see why they can't clone from dead cells given there's still dna in them
 
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This manga is so gross and uncomfortable. I fucking love it. When most modern manga tend towards escapism, it feels fresh to experience these more uncomfortable emotions. Really hoping the gut wrenching twists keep coming.

I will say, contrary to what other people may have said here in the comments, I might be tempted to argue that the comedy tag belongs. It's not your typical "ha ha ha" comedy, but a an uncomfortable, nervous "ha ha... ha" kind of dark comedy. A lot of comedy stems from playing with the audience's expectations and I feel this manga definitely accomplishes that (although whether it's in a comedic way may be subjective). I didn't laugh. I think it's funny, but I didn't laugh.
 
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I think there's going to be a few more round trips to the home planet...
 
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Bro.. artificial insemination and cloning is two different thing.. Artificial insemination need two individual, but cloning only need one.. It's not an insemination if they came from one individual. That's the difference..

And the sheep that you mention is already an old study.. there is a lot more than that right now.. I know this because I already studied on this kind of topic at university..

For Example there's one recently :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9249891/

If you didn't know what cloning is just read this :
https://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/cloning/whatiscloning/?source=post_page---------------------
??? yes?
But right now we still cant grow a whole ass sheep in a test tube so it has to implanted in a live female? That was my entire point?
 
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Why did you bring back the Comedy Tag??? It was finally removed after months and you brought it back???

THIS ISN'T A FUCKING COMEDY. Holy shit, why the fuck did the add it back. It's probably some Guro obsessed weirdo mod who thinks death is funny or something.
I don't know man, I laughed when Haru explained the "resurrection." It's so messed up that it circles back to being kinda funny
 
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... did class rep just do a 180 and stopped giving a shit? I mean, why would he just let Karagaki get tormented like that? He justifies it by saying she's a bad person, I get that... but it's not exactly Karagaki. I don't know, I just don't like it.
His pysche is breaking. He doesn't know what to believe in anymore. I'm not gonna be surprised if the ending of this series is him asking the alien girl to shoot him with the gun.
 
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Ahh found the guro weirdo. This isn’t black comedy, but your weird fetish colours how you view the world. Stop watching people die on Reddit and get some fucking help.
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Well let's hear it then, give me a list of every page you thought had a joke/something funny on it in this series. Show me the "humor" and explain why it's funny to you. I'll be surprised if you can even point to more than a couple that aren't complete "how the fuck is this funny" moments.
There's tons of examples of irony mixed with tragedy through out the entire series, but I'll just stick to one and try to explain it in depth to where you might finally get it and stop complaining about something that obviously isn't for you.

Teru is the usual best friend character being fucked around with to its absolute limits. Trying to find his "Girlfriend" Karagaki, going through the stages of grief being the only one caring that she was gone despite it not being really that well reciprocated to what we know of so far. He beats himself over it for multiple chapters even after confirming she wasn't faithful. And going to his best friend the MC who is partially responsible for her disappearance, and them having a best friend moment as he stands over the bridge. And ironically almost moves on instantly to an older woman who gives him a bit of attention, even if he feels guilty about. Only to get cucked over the phone while trying have another friend/relationship using his dead girlfriend's disappearance as an excuse which the older woman saw right through if you paid attention while immediately after have his mother leave him. Which then makes him kill himself.

Only to have that whole arc immediately undermined by the fact Karagaki is then revived right after his little arc is concluded. It's tragic, surreal, but most importantly extremely ironic. If she had been revived a earlier Teru might still be alive with a sweeter and kinder version of Karagaki. But no she goes back to school and this clean slate takes the torch of Teru's suffering in what guessed to be now her own arc. The humor is extremely light and can be overpowered by the just how absurd and dark the other material is. But that's what still makes the humor noticeable how absurd all of this is, and how it is played straight. Hell another example of something dark with a somewhat unlikeable protag is Death Note. Popular for how straightforward and non-gag oriented its comedy was. Hell Fujimoto with his entire discography is famous for it.

There are tons of old literature that teeter the line between tragedy and comedy (Divine Comedy). Hell theatre does this lots of times and even has a symbol that reflects this. If you don't like it or think it pushes too far in one direction for you to find it funny that is fine. But with the way it's illustrated the author obviously wanted some of it to not be taken seriously or at feel surreal. I could name other examples but honestly why bother it seems like you and Jackist are adamant about your stances on what counts as acceptable art or comedy and at this point I feel like trying to teach you both the history of writing and how even dark humor has been used to cope or even entertain through hard times would be lost.

Personally I liked Teru as a character and feel he got a little too much hate in comparison to the literal cheaters, murders, and accomplices in this manga. But what can you do? People hate "simps". Guess it's heavy projection.
 
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