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You barely not ruined Manaka nad Ueno relationship. Should you think aboit apologizing to them first?
Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi - Ch. 72 - Kanako’s Confession
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Wait so the three girls including the evil lesbian are all abusing ueno independently without the others knowing?
No wonder ueno has to apologize he's clearly a master manipulator
No wonder ueno has to apologize he's clearly a master manipulator
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So the ending will be like ueno and that girl getting together fixing their behavior, chisaki and sagawa and their third friend lesbian together, and
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Genuinely such a evil foid bro
I read it more in the sense of "we started it all", let's not forget Ueno was perving or their clothes and that was the first event, then Chisaki cranked it up. I see it as a sad sequence of choices of poorly advised and repressed young people, dealing with sexuality is complex and when there is no support and a lot of taboo things can get ugly like this. Everyone is understanding their responsability now and I am very satisfied with the developments.
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Chisaki is a evil lustful leach of a woman and is crazy if she things that this is Ueno’s fault at all like DUDE YOU BEEN TORTURING THIS GUY WITH YOUR FRIENDS SINCE TGE START LIKE COOOME ONNN
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Did he not change tho? Not a excuse to continue tormenting him over past mistakes especially what they are and have been doing is WAY WORSE than what he didExactly.
Everyone saying Ueno is innocent, are you sure? Really??
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Euno and chisaki situation is still not resolve we only got 2/3(and with manaka too actually but they are in relationship rn so its different matter).things look to be going straight for now, getting closure on everything it seems
edit: though yeah chisaki's in the wrong here, its not ueno's fault but ig shes tryna comfort kanako
even if the hotel seggs fails it seems like nothing too crazy is gonna happen now, so probably no more lewd femdom scenes either
And as always Tsubomi Resolution is still the best outcome so far no more random bullying #Tsubomithebest
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This is so sad my dick is crying 😭
Jesus christ that had me fuming xD This manga is NOT treating her actions seriously enough imo. What the hell is this "romantic moment" between two rapists? "I'm sorry for my rape victim and I bothering you due to your feelings for me which caused you to rape him, too." Oh my lord hahaha
You CANNOT compare him perving on their clothes to them raping him for YEARS. Jesus.
I read it more in the sense of "we started it all", let's not forget Ueno was perving or their clothes and that was the first event, then Chisaki cranked it up. I see it as a sad sequence of choices of poorly advised and repressed young people, dealing with sexuality is complex and when there is no support and a lot of taboo things can get ugly like this. Everyone is understanding their responsability now and I am very satisfied with the developments.
Are you seriously comparing him perving on their gym clothes once to them sexually humiliating him, abusing him and raping him for years? Are we so for real right now lmaoExactly.
Everyone saying Ueno is innocent, are you sure? Really??
He is 100% innocent. Are you serious? The difference in their crimes is so vast that making him out to be guilty of anything considering that they blackmailed him into getting raped is beyond absurd. Yes, he is innocent and a victim.All I'm saying is he's in no way innocent. Not that he deserves it all!
I genuinely cant believe that people look at this and say "well handled" bro lmao I just can't. What we're looking at are two rapists blaming their victim and celebrating a "romance" and moving on with their feelings, never feeling any remorse, never facing any consequences.
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He is a victim, ther is no question about that. The difference in their crimes is vast, so much that you cannot say it is "tit for tat." Especially since he suffered for years for what he did a single time.
But consider the age they were when this started. The trio were not old enough to grasp how evil what they were doing was. In their minds, they felt vindicated in their behaviour because Ueno "started it." And as they "punished" (tormented) him again and again, it shaped their mind into feeling like it's normal, not a big deal.
Ueno didn't make them be that way. But he was still the thing that influenced them into it. So: as much as he's a victim, and as much as I'd side with him against them any day, and as much as I'd say that whatever he did, he got punished so much for it in a disproportionate way: he is still not innocent.
Flip that for a moment. I will even up the ante and make the "crime" worse for the girl.
A girl sneaks a picture of a boy while he is undressing and laughs at him. She doesn't even send it anywhere. She doesn't apologize like Ueno did. She mocks him. He decides to "punish" her. He strips her naked, sexually humiliates her and rapes her until she is crying and apologizing. Would you say that he is "just young" and "doesn't grasp" what he is doing? Now imagine he does this repeatedly, bullies her in and out of school and picks up the rape even into university. She eventually develops problems with intimacy because of the repeated rape. She can't get wet unless she is being raped.
Would you say that the girl "influenced" him to do it? Would you still be emphatically emphasizing how she "is still not innocent." That she gave him the idea to rape her and that she is the one that influenced him to do it? Because that's wild.
The way I see it, there was absolutely nothing that Ueno did that "influenced" them into raping him. He immediately apologized for stealing their gym clothes. That was that, it was done. THEY chose to strip him naked and force him to masturbate. Because they had absolute power over him. That was not some idea that he gave them. THEY chose to rape him throughout the series. Again, he did not give them that idea. That idea came from their minds. Given that power over anyone else, no matter what he did, they would do it, too. That's my impression.
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I don't know if that's comparable, though honestly I can't put my finger on why.
But let's look at what Ueno did. It's a clear sexual predator move. I don't know how much it happens in Japan but it is a recurring plot point in their cultural output, so I'd say it feels to them like it happens a lot.
So what do they do? They flip that on him. They go at it completely disproportionately. They know that if it was known, he'd get socially destroyed, and they feel validated by society into thinking that puts them above him, morally speaking. Can you see how one thing leads to another, how his actions, society's expectations, and their own feelings of being violated and their wish to turn that around would lead them to do what they did?
And if you feel like I'm saying they're right to do so, read my posts again. However justified they felt, they took justice into their own hands and destroyed his life (almost? At least for a time, until he valiantly put it back together despite their efforts).
If they were to truly do the right thing, they'd have told the teachers, or they'd have told him to get lost and never speak to them again, or something else that isn't bullying and rape. But they saw this as an opportunity to finally feel strong and superior, flip the script on someone who would predate on them.
