Ware ni Cheat o ~Hazure Cheat no Shoukan Yuusha wa Isekai de Yukkuri Kurashitai~ - Vol. 3 Ch. 17

[PinkManiac]

Weren't we portraying that other hero as a villain for selling the princess doll essentially as a slave and being both extremely rapey and a literal rapist a few chapters ago?

And a murderer. Not sure at what point you can turn humans into a slave legally in this world, since he mentioned turning the girl that healed him into one, but it seems other species can just be caught. The issue they had with the doll being sold was more of a selling government property rather than the slavery aspect.

 

[Magnico]

@Thunderator @Magnico It's Isekai Trash with Harems and Snu Snu. Everyone knows Snu Snu sells.

Yeah but there is better Snu Snu manga out there that dont reach that number of volumes jajaja

 

[miao1234]

Wuh-
Wha-
Weren't we portraying that other hero as a villain for selling the princess doll essentially as a slave and being both extremely rapey and a literal rapist a few chapters ago?

Princess Dolls are clone of actual living princesses , so I am not surprised that you need to behave differently than with a slave

 

[monkey123]

Soon you all will be haunted by onion ninjas!

 

[wandere]

Princess Dolls are clone of actual living princesses , so I am not surprised that you need to behave differently than with a slave

As someone said, it might be more of a "this is government property" thing, as in they aren't seen as beings with their own thoughts, but also sometimes characters do look at them like that? It really does feel like we're getting multiple different fully-fledged stories and elements stuffed into the same isekai and it suffers for it. Does this want to be "When Isekaied, I Didn't Kill the Slime, So It Returned Its Gratitude", "In Another World With My Robot Wife", "I Was a Faulty Hero, So I Hunted Quails For a Year", "I Have Suddenly Entered This New World, So I Will Create A Monster Girl Harem", or what? I personally prefer "In Another World With My Robot Wife"; I would have been into the monster girl premise without the slavery aspect.

 

[sanepsycho]

Thank you for the translation~

 

[spectacure]

HOLY HELL the slavery here is even worse that you think, after all they have a revive checkpoint, i mean i don't know how the revive works but if it's how i think it is then once someone becomes a slave, they will always stay a slave, not even the owner nor the slave themselves dying will release them from servitude

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

Let's just read off page 6 of this chapter:

Which isn't anything the MC did. They have had that skill used on them regardless of the MC. You'd rather they'd be used for pleasure after being bought by someone else just so MC can morally grandstand?

despite Nina's wishes, the protagonist refuses to let her die, or "die" on her own terms (at least exactly the way she would prefer) despite the insistence that he sees her as a person,

Seeing someone as a person would be why you don't just accept 'I'm resigned to death, don't try to save me'. This make no sense.

Common isekai protag skill issue amped up by 11.

I think it has more to do with your 'logic' making no sense and your standards being dumb than any protag's 'skill issue'.

 

[AMicrowave]

O . o
From behind while standing on a stool or raised surface like every other desperate pervert who decided a horse, cow, or camel was an acceptable sexual partner. And as they are mares, they will be truely disappointed if he ever makes the effort.

OTOH if the genders were reversed, let's just say the human half of that pairing would have a good chance of servicing the shaft with both ends, after it passed thrue what was left of their digestive tract, and other internal organs.

that reminds me of the story of the guy who died from internal hemorrhaging cause he tried to get screwed by a male horse

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

Always annoying that an MC from our modern world, with our modern morals, always just shrugs their shoulders and says 'yeah, I'll own a slave'.

Also, why didn't ask the scientist elf girl to give him some advice on his doll girl? Maybe he could prolong her life almost indefinitely?

 

[lowarctic]

Do people not realize that slavery was very normal in the past and in effect more or less still is today? Not trying to defend the overused writing practis of using slavery as a gimmick to push subservient females on the protagonist, but slavery in a medieval fantasy world. In fact if we were to pursue any kind of realism or logic at all then slavery would be part of every single instance of this kind of literature unless author explicitly has created an in universe reason against slavery.

buying and owning slaves was relatively uncommon in Europe during the medieval period, especially compared to the early modern and classical periods, although it wasn’t too uncommon to capture and to sell other Europeans to Asia and Africa

 

[Kreate]

buying and owning slaves was relatively uncommon in Europe during the medieval period, especially compared to the early modern and classical periods, although it wasn’t too uncommon to capture and to sell other Europeans to Asia and Africa

Would that not depend on the time period and region of medieval europe we are talking about? Serfs took the roles of slaves for the regions and time periods they were used. Depending on how you look at it serfs were practically a form of slaves. Though correct me if im wrong.

I would like to have you clarify what 'relatively uncommon' is in this context though. As far as i know there has never been a time or place where most people owned slaves. It was always reserved for the wealthy. But if you were to look for them you would probably find them, in the areas they were not replaced by the serfs that is.

 

[lowarctic]

Would that not depend on the time period and region of medieval europe we are talking about? Serfs took the roles of slaves for the regions and time periods they were used. Depending on how you look at it serfs were practically a form of slaves. Though correct me if im wrong.

I would like to have you clarify what 'relatively uncommon' is in this context though. As far as i know there has never been a time or place where most people owned slaves. It was always reserved for the wealthy. But if you were to look for them you would probably find them, in the areas they were not replaced by the serfs that is.

it would depend but you made a broad generalization, so I stayed broad with mine: as Europe Christianized in the medieval period it became prohibited legally and socially to buy or sell other Christians so slavery increasingly declined from the classical period

and yes serfdom replaced slavery in the economy and serfs were certainly an underclass with limited rights, but serfs were distinct from slaves in important ways: you couldn’t buy or sell serfs as a commodity as you could with slaves so there were no slave markets like in this manga

serfs were tied to the estate, and you could acquire an entire estate if you were rich enough but even then you still had certain obligations towards your serfs that didn’t exist for slaves