Warning! Beware of the Dog - Ch. 17 - Miss Spade

[1umin_e]

"If people didn't attack l1v (who again, does not mtl and does not attack people) I wouldn't feel the need to be a butthole on the internet at people."

People don't attack others for no reason you know? And you still haven't answered my question, would you read something with crappy quality? Am not attacking anyone and atp it doesn't look like you are defending l1v but yourself. People complain because they need better quality, and l1v has speed not quality. (I read few chapters since u kept on saying stuff) I as a scanlator and a reader look for quality the most tbh, and thats the case for anyone.

And this whole bs is just lack of communication, if zephyr did something l1v didnt like then they need to step and talk about it. And how do you even know that l1v doesn't MTL? Do you watch her work? Do you know Chinese? What makes you soo sure that she doesn't MTL? Does she show you her work when she tls? And so what if she got a degree in Chinese, if the translation is bad it's bad, end of discussion. You, me, and everyone here has no say in this. Its both Luna and l1v's problem and they themselves should fix it, not us.

I didn't say Zephyr sucked. I think they do excellent work. I even said so above.

I don't appreciate Kora attacking l1v so hard and Zephyr ends up being along for the ride.

If people didn't attack l1v (who again, does not mtl and does not attack people) I wouldn't feel the need to be a butthole on the internet at people.

 

[jiodi]

"If people didn't attack l1v (who again, does not mtl and does not attack people) I wouldn't feel the need to be a butthole on the internet at people."

People don't attack others for no reason you know? And you still haven't answered my question, would you read something with crappy quality? Am not attacking anyone and atp it doesn't look like you are defending l1v but yourself. People complain because they need better quality, and l1v has speed not quality. (I read few chapters since u kept on saying stuff) I as a scanlator and a reader look for quality the most tbh, and thats the case for anyone.

And this whole bs is just lack of communication, if zephyr did something l1v didnt like then they need to step and talk about it. And how do you even know that l1v doesn't MTL? Do you watch her work? Do you know Chinese? What makes you soo sure that she doesn't MTL? Does she show you her work when she tls? And so what if she got a degree in Chinese, if the translation is bad it's bad, end of discussion. You, me, and everyone here has no say in this. Its both Luna and l1v's problem and they themselves should fix it, not us.

It seems like you're letting bias get in the way.

We have a whole ass discord we sit in that l1v is a part of (not their disc, mind you, a disc for the yuri manga subreddit - feel free to join!)

I know l1v because I talk to them regularly. So does Crate. So does Mia. Im going to name drop because people act like l1v is some unknown.

I was the one who found Foxes and rec'd it to l1v in the first place the second the announcement came out.

L1v also helps me figure out stuff when mtl fails me when I'm reading raws.

I don't believe you when you say you've read chapters and still think they're low quality.

And I'm working on getting them communicating. Bad blood was formed so it's not like it's that easy.

Especially when you see all these people on these forums saying l1v does shitty work. Would you wanna talk to those people?

 

[1umin_e]

It seems like you're letting bias get in the way.

We have a whole ass discord we sit in that l1v is a part of (not their disc, mind you, a disc for the yuri manga subreddit - feel free to join!)

I know l1v because I talk to them regularly. So does Crate. So does Mia. Im going to name drop because people act like l1v is some unknown.

I was the one who found Foxes and rec'd it to l1v in the first place the second the announcement came out.

L1v also helps me figure out stuff when mtl fails me when I'm reading raws.

I don't believe you when you say you've read chapters and still think they're low quality.

And I'm working on getting them communicating. Bad blood was formed so it's not like it's that easy.

Especially when you see all these people on these forums saying l1v does shitty work. Would you wanna talk to those people?

So what are you trying to prove rn???? Am soo confused dude?? Like yea okay you admire l1v and like her quality and stuff but like why are you asking us to admit it's good quality when its not? Luna pointed the mistakes out so did kora and if you want even I can do it but am not? I don't wanna insult any community, am just saying what's happening here is useless. What you are doing will only create more haters for her tbh... And yea saying a person does shitty work is quite disheartening but you can't help it when it's true yk? I don't understand why you are defending a person soo much and creating problem when all this can be solved with the two group leaders exchanging two words and finishing it. Rn you are nust making more enemies than supporters.

 

[1umin_e]

If my friend was getting criticized like this what I would do is to make people understand. That she puts her time on this and saying these stuff are disheartening, not call out another person and shit

 

[jiodi]

So what are you trying to prove rn???? Am soo confused dude?? Like yea okay you admire l1v and like her quality and stuff but like why are you asking us to admit it's good quality when its not? Luna pointed the mistakes out so did kora and if you want even I can do it but am not? I don't wanna insult any community, am just saying what's happening here is useless. What you are doing will only create more haters for her tbh... And yea saying a person does shitty work is quite disheartening but you can't help it when it's true yk? I don't understand why you are defending a person soo much and creating problem when all this can be solved with the two group leaders exchanging two words and finishing it. Rn you are nust making more enemies than supporters.

Lmao jfc who even are you? You just swooped in and tried to keep the elite mean girls club going and then blame me?

Look I'm sorry I'm not bowing to you guys but I just don't care about your egotistical faux-helpful nonsense. Korra is an asshole and Zephyr is willing to take it to dms so your presence here is doing what? Keeping it going?

Why? You aren't going to change anyone's mind who already sees this farce for what it is so it looks like you just popped in to defend your friend. I'm not an idiot, nor are the people in this community, so you'll have to do better than that.

 

[jiodi]

If my friend was getting criticized like this what I would do is to make people understand. That she puts her time on this and saying these stuff are disheartening, not call out another person and shit

I did that already - maybe you didn't read the conversations but I literally did that. Lmao.

 

[1umin_e]

Lmao jfc who even are you? You just swooped in and tried to keep the elite mean girls club going and then blame me?

Look I'm sorry I'm not bowing to you guys but I just don't care about your egotistical faux-helpful nonsense. Korra is an asshole and Zephyr is willing to take it to dms so your presence here is doing what? Keeping it going?

Why? You aren't going to change anyone's mind who already sees this farce for what it is so it looks like you just popped in to defend your friend. I'm not an idiot, nor are the people in this community, so you'll have to do better than that.

Sighh okay bro, what you say is right, am in the wrong, l1v's scanlations are godlike and none of us care about quality, all we want is fast chapters with translations. Soo childish jeez

 

[jiodi]

Sighh okay bro, what you say is right, am in the wrong, l1v's scanlations are godlike and none of us care about quality, all we want is fast chapters with translations. Soo childish jeez

I never said godlike, did i? I never said they were amazing. I simply questioned why, in the wake of all these mtl jerks around, people like kora actively seek out l1v to message them that they aren't good at what they do on discord?

You can strawman all day but the point is a friend of mine is doing series for the community, just like other scanlation groups, and provides decent quality with speed. Why they are attacked so much is weird and smacks of ego over community.

 

[1umin_e]

look bro idk what beef you have with kora and i give two fucks but like what you are saying is just plain rude. You cant say no to our claims cuz they are true. Look take it this way, you solved this math question but the answer you got and the way you did was wrong, and your teacher sees that so she comes to you and tells you where you went wrong and how you can do it better. Now your teacher can either be blunt or sweet but tht depends on the person, not everyone sugarcoat stuff. If you do scanlation work you will see what the others are talking about. I have been a reader myself for 7 years and i have been in the scanlation community for more than 3 years. I had my fair share of experience. when i see something wrong with the chapter i will point it out cuz thts how u help others get better. Now if you find that rude, keep it to yourself, don't force others to have the same opinion as you. If you wanna defend your friend do it the moderate way. You literally said zephyr was gatekeeping chapters??? tfym by that??? well excuse you but people have lifes, and zephyr is not a one man army, theres a lot of staffs there and those staff also has stuff to do irl. they try their best to upload stuff. Understand that first, if you wanna defend your friend then do that, not shit talking about other people who have better things to do than this. And the one who sniped this series was l1v, zephyr has every right to say something about it?

 

[Harusame]

Just wondering what you meant by "gatekeeping." if i wanted to gatekeep, i would've not been scanlating at all and let everyone read some bs low-quality mtl that makes 0 sense on facebook. And if you say something like not keeping up with raws or just being several chapters behind then i apologize for having a fucking life and not spending 9 hours of my day on straight scanlation jeez. Also, no other baihe scanlation group who brings QUALITY WORK isn't several chapters behind chinese raws. Ex: Himejoshi Empire, they're like 50 chapters behind in "Your Scent"; The Golden Orchid, they're like 40+ chapters behind in "Unaware His Majesty Is a Girl"; Tangerine Scans, they're 30+ chapters behind in "Indulging a Crazy Beauty"

There's a difference between releasing 33 chapters in a year (Golden Orchid) for an active project that isn't caught up and releasing 7 chapters in a year (Zephyr).

Himejoshi put out 19 chapters for Your Scent over the past 12 months.

Tangerine put out 12 chapters in 7 months, and I only tracked 7 months because it's only been 7 months since the start of their project.

Zephyr put out 28 chapters in the last year with Long-Awaited Feelings.

It's pretty clear that this specific series was neglected.

By Eris I wish that actually worked.

Spoiler: MTLers don’t care. They’ll snipe you regardless.

It generally does. It worked when I still translated web novels. For the scanlators involved here, it generally works.

 

[jiodi]

look bro idk what beef you have with kora and i give two fucks but like what you are saying is just plain rude. You cant say no to our claims cuz they are true. Look take it this way, you solved this math question but the answer you got and the way you did was wrong, and your teacher sees that so she comes to you and tells you where you went wrong and how you can do it better. Now your teacher can either be blunt or sweet but tht depends on the person, not everyone sugarcoat stuff. If you do scanlation work you will see what the others are talking about. I have been a reader myself for 7 years and i have been in the scanlation community for more than 3 years. I had my fair share of experience. when i see something wrong with the chapter i will point it out cuz thts how u help others get better. Now if you find that rude, keep it to yourself, don't force others to have the same opinion as you. If you wanna defend your friend do it the moderate way. You literally said zephyr was gatekeeping chapters??? tfym by that??? well excuse you but people have lifes, and zephyr is not a one man army, theres a lot of staffs there and those staff also has stuff to do irl. they try their best to upload stuff. Understand that first, if you wanna defend your friend then do that, not shit talking about other people who have better things to do than this. And the one who sniped this series was l1v, zephyr has every right to say something about it?

Lmao this is such drivel. Just admit you want to play favorites cause I'm not responding seriously to you anymore.

When you actively ignore stuff that doesn't go along with your argument you aren't worthy of conversation.

 

[jiodi]

There's a difference between releasing 33 chapters in a year (Golden Orchid) for an active project that isn't caught up and releasing 7 chapters in a year (Zephyr).

Himejoshi put out 19 chapters for Your Scent over the past 12 months.

Tangerine put out 12 chapters in 7 months, and I only tracked 7 months because it's only been 7 months since the start of their project.

Zephyr put out 28 chapters in the last year with Long-Awaited Feelings.

It's pretty clear that this specific series was neglected.

It generally does. It worked when I still translated web novels. For the scanlators involved here, it generally works.

We aren't talking about anything that makes sense, here, though.

We can point out facts all day and it means nothing in the face of peoples bias.

So much time is spent nitpicking one scanlator for no reason that wouldn't be petty or stupid. This could all be handled in a way healthier way.

Regardless of how you feel about stuff I appreciate you sticking to the numbers and what's actually happened.

 

[vixawi1793]

Thanks for the chapter l1v!

I really like how mouths are drawn here, especially the succubus' (forgot her name lmao) . I wanna lick 'em.

 

[hjm44632]

Thanks for the translation

 

[tree01]

uhh... thanks for the chapter

 

[JusrKora]

We have a whole ass discord we sit in that l1v is a part of (not their disc, mind you, a disc for the yuri manga subreddit - feel free to join!)

"Feel free to join" lmao ive never been there and im already banned.

 

[Fuckyouface]

So what you're saying is a bunch of stuff only you care about that nobody else cares about? I think it looks great. I think your stuff looks great too.

But I don't see a huge difference.

So, instead of trying to find every little thing wrong you can why not embrace the community you're doing this for and actually talk to l1v?

Korra is a lost cause, they suck farts. But you are an adult or close to it, right? If you want to keep this series perhaps communicate. And maybe communicate the misunderstanding about Foxes Always Lie - since you never did and you can just look at the page and see who posted the intro chapter and made the page.

I have hope for you. I like your stuff and there's no reason for this needless drama in the community. But you have to make an effort instead of just getting passive aggressive.

Are you blind?

 

[crate90]

Ok y'all need to stop this instant and take it elsewhere. There are ppl reading your comments that don't need to see this. Now hands off keyboard now!

 

[LilithRaven]

telling weeks before vs having a morning surprise is quite the difference

ok so? what is this? the gov were if you don’t apply in the timefram they can’t function? like what are we talking about?

 

[shemper]

ok so? what is this? the gov were if you don’t apply in the timefram they can’t function? like what are we talking about?

professional courtesy so we avoid unnecessary negativity/toxicity among translators?