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What kind of girls do you like, Tsuji-kun? - Ch. 10
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The problem is you're applying a moral slant to something that isn't that deeply rooted in ethics to begin with. I doubt girls have harbored many a grudge for guys who jerk them around in a teasing manner - unless it crosses a line.
You seem to be correlating teasing and emotional stringing with the deeper cause of abuse - which is quite the reacharound.
The problem is you're applying a moral slant to something that isn't that deeply rooted in ethics to begin with. I doubt girls have harbored many a grudge for guys who jerk them around in a teasing manner - unless it crosses a line.
You seem to be correlating teasing and emotional stringing with the deeper cause of abuse - which is quite the reacharound.
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@Pandawanka—
Please deal with what I've actually written, or don't ping me. If you have to try to reshape what I've written — creating a straw man — to seem to address it, then you cannot truly address it.
(And I would note that there are many ways to tease that don't involve causing the other person to feel even momentarily crushed.)
Please deal with what I've actually written, or don't ping me. If you have to try to reshape what I've written — creating a straw man — to seem to address it, then you cannot truly address it.
(And I would note that there are many ways to tease that don't involve causing the other person to feel even momentarily crushed.)
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Now you're just sorta dancing around the main issue. Straw man or not, you're grasping at straws in your logic. Although there MAY be better ways to tease - this girl has already liked this guy, who already since chapter one had a penchant of jerking her around (like telling her he likes long hair because he knows her hair is short just to make her worry over it) and is still into him.
Your initial claim was already riddled with issues such as white knighting and saying stuff like "I would NEVER be deliberately cruel in such a way to a girl" like you're some sort of protector of feelings.
a. You aren't this girl - you can't claim to understand what she's going through nor are you an authority on how she should feel.
b. No interaction/relationship is perfect - whatever this guy is teasing this girl with is hardly the horrible evil manipulator you're implying he is.
No longer going to be pinging you, but get off your high horse.
Now you're just sorta dancing around the main issue. Straw man or not, you're grasping at straws in your logic. Although there MAY be better ways to tease - this girl has already liked this guy, who already since chapter one had a penchant of jerking her around (like telling her he likes long hair because he knows her hair is short just to make her worry over it) and is still into him.
Your initial claim was already riddled with issues such as white knighting and saying stuff like "I would NEVER be deliberately cruel in such a way to a girl" like you're some sort of protector of feelings.
a. You aren't this girl - you can't claim to understand what she's going through nor are you an authority on how she should feel.
b. No interaction/relationship is perfect - whatever this guy is teasing this girl with is hardly the horrible evil manipulator you're implying he is.
No longer going to be pinging you, but get off your high horse.
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@Pandawanka—
Now, just stop pinging me. There is no reasonable chance of your arguing about this matter rationally.
No; instead beyond noting that you've misrepresented what I've said, I'm refusing to discuss your misrepresentation. I gave you another chance to do the right thing by dealing with what I'd actually said, but:
That's like writing “Whether I'm telling the truth about all this or not”. And so that's literally where I quit reading. You think (or pretend to think) that I must either defend a position thay you invented, or agree that you're somehow right.
Now, just stop pinging me. There is no reasonable chance of your arguing about this matter rationally.
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Hi
You can't win a battle you were never in. I can see why you'd have problems with real teasing since you can't do arguments well either. It's very telling.
Hi
You can't win a battle you were never in. I can see why you'd have problems with real teasing since you can't do arguments well either. It's very telling.
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@Pandawanka—
Stop pinging me. You crossed a line with your
Stop pinging me. You crossed a line with your
I stopped reading and won't resume. You'll just be trolling if you keep pinging me.
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@Pandawanka—
Stop pinging me. I quit reading your messages once you made it plain that you regarded misrepresenting me as somehow acceptable. If you want to entertain whomever else by continuing, just leave the ‘@’ off your references to me.
Stop pinging me. I quit reading your messages once you made it plain that you regarded misrepresenting me as somehow acceptable. If you want to entertain whomever else by continuing, just leave the ‘@’ off your references to me.
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@Pandawanka—
What happens if you keep ping-trolling and I keep noting that I'm just commenting in response to the ping without reading is that an admin gets angry, “moderates” the comments, blocks you for trolling, and probably blocks me for responding to your trolling. Of course, trolling may be worth it to you. *shrug*
What happens if you keep ping-trolling and I keep noting that I'm just commenting in response to the ping without reading is that an admin gets angry, “moderates” the comments, blocks you for trolling, and probably blocks me for responding to your trolling. Of course, trolling may be worth it to you. *shrug*
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Oh yes, very worth it.
And if a moderator comes by to swing and see it I'd be very surprised.
Then again if we get banned it's still worth it.
Note I haven't called you any names yet so I'm not banking on the chances.
Feel free to stop replying though if you'd actually like to stop because you're already taking up too much of my Friday as is.
Oh yes, very worth it.
And if a moderator comes by to swing and see it I'd be very surprised.
Then again if we get banned it's still worth it.
Note I haven't called you any names yet so I'm not banking on the chances.
Feel free to stop replying though if you'd actually like to stop because you're already taking up too much of my Friday as is.
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@Pandawanka—
Apparently trolling provides you with sufficient short-term relief that you'll keep it up until an admin gets angry, “moderates” the comments, blocks you for trolling, and probably blocks me for responding to your trolling. *shrug*
Apparently trolling provides you with sufficient short-term relief that you'll keep it up until an admin gets angry, “moderates” the comments, blocks you for trolling, and probably blocks me for responding to your trolling. *shrug*
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Believe me, you're the only one in months who has warranted this amount of "trolling". It's not hard when you literally get annoyed by random tags and persist in continuing the conversation when you won't even step up to the plate for a debate.
Just stop replying if you want to move on. At this point it's just sad. I've tried to at least start up a form of argument but instead of actually correcting me or explaining your straw man perspective you're covering your ears and going "lalalala I won't argue with you cause you don't conform to my perspective, ladeeda"
It's sad. Go do some human interaction. Figure out why people act the way they do. And stop screaming for mods like a baby, you're an adult.
Believe me, you're the only one in months who has warranted this amount of "trolling". It's not hard when you literally get annoyed by random tags and persist in continuing the conversation when you won't even step up to the plate for a debate.
Just stop replying if you want to move on. At this point it's just sad. I've tried to at least start up a form of argument but instead of actually correcting me or explaining your straw man perspective you're covering your ears and going "lalalala I won't argue with you cause you don't conform to my perspective, ladeeda"
It's sad. Go do some human interaction. Figure out why people act the way they do. And stop screaming for mods like a baby, you're an adult.
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@Pandawanka—
Perhaps some people will enjoy your ping-trolling, but most will think less of you for it. When you began commenting here, it was at least with apparent sincerity, but your trolling shows your willingness to throw such sincerity away.
Perhaps some people will enjoy your ping-trolling, but most will think less of you for it. When you began commenting here, it was at least with apparent sincerity, but your trolling shows your willingness to throw such sincerity away.
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Oh damn, you're right. When I started this I was completely focused on what other people thought, yep. I can't believe I've let myself sink so low, oh man.
My arguments always start off sincere but they devolve to the level of the people I talk to.
Oh damn, you're right. When I started this I was completely focused on what other people thought, yep. I can't believe I've let myself sink so low, oh man.
My arguments always start off sincere but they devolve to the level of the people I talk to.
frankly, that guy is a jerk, this is a teenage romance, girl will grow up, they'll most likely not stay together anyway. At least he's not a creep.
and hmm, I wouldn't call the guy cruel, per se, but more sadistic. Either way I doubt girl will stay with him, I don't feel like they fit each other all that much...
and hmm, I wouldn't call the guy cruel, per se, but more sadistic. Either way I doubt girl will stay with him, I don't feel like they fit each other all that much...
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@Pandawanka—
Again, ping-trolling just makes you look bad, and you can omit the ‘@’ to continue the argument that you were faking anyway, by arguing against a straw-man.
But, at this stage, you might be the only person reading your comments, so perhaps you should just fake the whole thing in your head.
Again, ping-trolling just makes you look bad, and you can omit the ‘@’ to continue the argument that you were faking anyway, by arguing against a straw-man.
But, at this stage, you might be the only person reading your comments, so perhaps you should just fake the whole thing in your head.
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I've got a beautiful one-man audience here still reading no? You're the only person I need reading these baby <3
And god I can't get into your headspace, it's just so above the clouds. Usually in an argument I'd try to match or understand the opposing worldview but you're so detached from any actual grounded perspective that it's literally impossible.
And stop getting baited - stop replying. For someone so sick of supposed "trolling" you've got way too much time to reply to something you're not providing any meaningful insight into.
I've got a beautiful one-man audience here still reading no? You're the only person I need reading these baby <3
And god I can't get into your headspace, it's just so above the clouds. Usually in an argument I'd try to match or understand the opposing worldview but you're so detached from any actual grounded perspective that it's literally impossible.
And stop getting baited - stop replying. For someone so sick of supposed "trolling" you've got way too much time to reply to something you're not providing any meaningful insight into.
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