Wortenia Senki - Vol. 10 Ch. 47

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"the queen needs more allies" then why are you trying to alienate her from her most useful ally, the one who put her on the throne. i can't tell if the black haired girl is incredibly stupid or deliberately trying to sabotage the queen
 
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"the queen needs more allies" then why are you trying to alienate her from her most useful ally, the one who put her on the throne. i can't tell if the black haired girl is incredibly stupid or deliberately trying to sabotage the queen
I'd say former, but this is also where politics come into play. Like she said, Ryouma is someone of completely unknown origin to them, so it's difficult to know how he'll act since his value system and common sense are very different. There is no question though that he's charismatic enough to be an effective leader and attract powerful people to his side, which is what makes him dangerous. Between both, conservatives in the nobles and royal factions don't completely know how to deal with him, or feel they can fully trust him, especially when he habitually employs unorthodox methods. I do agree though that the Queen would be better off having Ryouma as her friend, but her current position requires her to have complete trust in him, and be able to lay everything bare, which would also jeopardize her political standing with the nobles. But even if Ryouma is willing to accept her that way and keep things confidential, she's not ready to open up to him. In a nutshell, they're afraid to deal with him because of a mixture of distrust, and his unpredictability.
 
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this Queen truly falls apart quickly all the time and is only able to act upon associates supporting her mental state or providing her ideas she can use as her own. she could have apologized to Ryouma in secret and no other noble would believe it, yet Ryouma would likely be more flexible with her then.

instead of allowing her to grow as a person, supporting and following up to her ideas, it seems Meltina just wants to keep her Queen as safe as she can be, even if that forces her to stay in her cage and thus tries to find a companion to support the Queen.
 
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"the queen needs more allies" then why are you trying to alienate her from her most useful ally, the one who put her on the throne. i can't tell if the black haired girl is incredibly stupid or deliberately trying to sabotage the queen

Because Meltina equates "ally" to "brown-noser". Getting and mantaining allies requires compromises, especially allies as powerful as Ryouma. But the Queen doesn't want that, she wants unquestionable loyalty while giving nothing back.
 
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That Meltina is the reason why the queen will go on self-destruct path, the male one is even bigger fool.
this kingdom is DOOM
I get the feeling this series is gonna be they all fall to the MC and he creates some kinda mega kingdom. With like full loyalties and people like the queen will end up dead cause of her advisers bad opinions on everything.
 
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..honestly the Queens mistake is that she considers the opinion of her two "allies" higher than everything else. The Girl is not very bright and thinks with her heart and not her head which in her position is foolish. Mikhail is even worse, that guy only considers his honor and is pretty much the main reason for a lot of the queens current problems. Do remember who's Idea it was to fuck our MC over. Not to speak that the reason the war went sideways is because he was incapable of something as rudimentary as a scouting mission.
...honestly that Girl is simply not ruler material.
:EDIT: Now that I mentioned it the "Honor" thing seems to be a big issue overall with the nobles. Even the douchebags.
 
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..honestly the Queens mistake is that she considers the opinion of her two "allies" higher than everything else. The Girl is not very bright and thinks with her heart and not her head which in her position is foolish. Mikhail is even worse, that guy only considers his honor and is pretty much the main reason for a lot of the queens current problems. Do remember who's Idea it was to fuck our MC over. Not to speak that the reason the war went sideways is because he was incapable of something as rudimentary as a scouting mission.
...honestly that Girl is simply not ruler material.

tbf to her, On the Mikhail stuff, she grew up with him while treating him as an older brother and was extremely close to him. She couldnt bare something bad happening to him so she did the one thing she shouldnt have done to save him. This is going to majorly bite her in the ass later as it seems like Mikhail has gone to the dark side and i wouldnt be surprised if he's now part of the Light God Cult. With the reveal of the luitenant of the princess being a spy of theirs i wouldnt be surprised that one of the queen's close aids is also a spy for them.

hopefully (cause i truly do pity her despite what she's done) the queen will end up retiring and living out the rest of her life in Ryouma's territory in peace. This will probably happen after the second civil war happens because she didnt get rid of that duke and fake princess. I also hope Elena becomes Ryouma's mom after he accept her offer.
 
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tbf to her, On the Mikhail stuff, she grew up with him while treating him as an older brother and was extremely close to him. She couldnt bare something bad happening to him so she did the one thing she shouldnt have done to save him. This is going to majorly bite her in the ass later as it seems like Mikhail has gone to the dark side and i wouldnt be surprised if he's now part of the Light God Cult. With the reveal of the luitenant of the princess being a spy of theirs i wouldnt be surprised that one of the queen's close aids is also a spy for them.
Frankly rescuing him wouldn't have been necessary if he simply didn't fail something as rudimentary as a scouting mission by acting on a personal grudge. And yes, it's safe to assume he will be a big reason, if not the lynchpin in her downfall.
 
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I see the LN release (last 4 release) date about every 4 months & the manga a little better with ch.47 release 3 months after ch.46 and 2 chapter before ch.46 is 1 or 2 months from their official raw.

For me this manga is really interesting but after i check the gap of the release date maybe i will read this manga yearly than be patient and check every month 😂
 
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"the queen needs more allies" then why are you trying to alienate her from her most useful ally, the one who put her on the throne. i can't tell if the black haired girl is incredibly stupid or deliberately trying to sabotage the queen
Ngl all the advisor don't seem to have an IQ above 20...

Also, the Queen really is a bad ruler.. She's in fact so bad that I think the stereotype "women make all decisions based on emotions" was literally created for her.
I mean, she really was about to make Michael King (meaning marrying him) just because she was desperate to save him...
Then when she receives backlash against the taxes reform she's like "why don't they understand". Like, wtf?
She's ruled by emotions and wants to rule with emotions but that's not how politics work, specially in a medieval setting like this.
 
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It should be translated as Elder Liu. In Chinese, Da can be used to denote respect, based on context.

Liu Da Ren wouldn't be Liu Adult, but Lord Liu or Liu-sama.
 
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of course your Queen needs more allies. If you have a negative IQ and the other one she trusts the most is a traitor from the very moment he ignored orders and screwed up out of pride... And as if that were not enough, you treat the hero of YOUR kingdom like shit , the only one capable of saving your neck, your kingdom (again) and his own because of you.
damn. I just remember reading the web novel (avoiding the author's verbiage) and feeling frustrated at how they almost fucked up the whole kingdom out of stupid pride..
 
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I'd say former, but this is also where politics come into play. Like she said, Ryouma is someone of completely unknown origin to them, so it's difficult to know how he'll act since his value system and common sense are very different. There is no question though that he's charismatic enough to be an effective leader and attract powerful people to his side, which is what makes him dangerous. Between both, conservatives in the nobles and royal factions don't completely know how to deal with him, or feel they can fully trust him, especially when he habitually employs unorthodox methods. I do agree though that the Queen would be better off having Ryouma as her friend, but her current position requires her to have complete trust in him, and be able to lay verything bare. But even if Ryouma is willing to accept her that way and keep things confidential, she's not ready to open up to him. In a nutshell, they're afraid to deal with him because of a mixture of distrust, and his unpredictability.
Yeah but if those nobles and queen had talent to rule, if they just include him in their meeting ask for his opinion, negotiate with him, just treat him more like a friend and ally, instead of abandoning him and distrust him because (god bless the racism in this world) he is not from this country/world, they ruin themselves because they trust in persons that survive the civil war and they do nothing during that conflict, they never ask their opinion of the commonfolk, they don't distrust in few coherent cheaptalking and studing about being a good ruler or just study the situation of the country researching by thenselve (they never do something similar that Ryouma do in the first months he established in wortenia, he do a lot of research by himself, using his allies, merchants, servants, commonfolk, and slaves)
 

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