Yuusha ni Zenbu Ubawareta Ore wa Yuusha no Hahaoya to Party wo Kumimashita! - Vol. 2 Ch. 6

[Roadwarior2]

Again, westners right? Japan view of Religion And marriage is way different. Their customs of religion is so detached that many consider themselves without religion, just following some practices of Budism/Xingoism because of culture legacy.
Marriage was mostly about keeping families together or to tie families to other families. So much that marriage in Japan hardly has a religious aspect. Now there is more because of globalization some couples want to glamourize the white dress in a church, but I can bet you that the majority have nothing to do with Christianity XD

So did the pre-industrial Japanese have no qualms about breaking marriage pacts?
Did they think it was okay to fuck your sworn brother’s wife (without his consent at least)?
Yeah I’m actually well aware of the differences in the cultures of the east and west, but I’m pretty sure attitudes towards betrayal of trust or breach of contract are quite universal.
Getting back to this chapter, without the benefit of knowing what the circumstances of that marriage is, this chapter just comes across as Ceres’ wife goading him into betraying his friend’s trust (or really just doing something he’s not comfortable with) with some handwaving BS reasoning.
Reading the spoilers though, it’s clearly not so bad, but it’s initially presented poorly I guess.
Which is why a lot of the reaction to the chapter is just “dude wtf”?

 

[shinshom]

So did the pre-industrial Japanese have no qualms about breaking marriage pacts?
Did they think it was okay to fuck your sworn brother’s wife (without his consent at least)?

Ok thats a bit overly dramatic but if you read about this, in some places (not as common as with single man/woman) could happen, but this argument is not rly that valid because it is already stablished that in this world after a kid is born, the love and lust mostly dies for the partner. Yobai is already too much of a specific thing, now This isekai Yobai is even more so it is too different. But as Shizuko said, this kind of thing is not even weird on the village and pretty sure is accepted because, again, love life dies too soon in this world.

Yeah I’m actually well aware of the differences in the cultures of the east and west, but I’m pretty sure attitudes towards betrayal of trust or breach of contract are quite universal.

This concept you are pushing towards trust and betrayal between couples, in the world, is way too recent honestly. Ppl openly had mistresses as early as 100 years ago in many places.

Getting back to this chapter, without the benefit of knowing what the circumstances of that marriage is, this chapter just comes across as Ceres’ wife goading him into betraying his friend’s trust (or really just doing something he’s not comfortable with) with some handwaving BS reasoning.
Reading the spoilers though, it’s clearly not so bad, but it’s initially presented poorly I guess.
Which is why a lot of the reaction to the chapter is just “dude wtf”?

the circunstances of the marriage is already stablished in this world long ago remember? After babies are born, sex life dies. After 30, a woman is not even a female anymore. Shizuko accepted this because thats how the world is. Ceres is the crazy one to thing that Woman on 30s are still potential lovers.

A thing that was not explained that well on the manga is that Ceres kinda flirted with all the moms there, in specifically the mothers of his former party so Shizuko knows now that, confirming his love for her, he would most likely like the idea of having all of them as wives.

She being happy now with this jackpot of a guy she found, she probably wants to share with her best friends that she already know have unhappy married lifes (in bed) and again, most of them openly lustin elsewere or just not sexing at all.

 

[Roadwarior2]

This concept you are pushing towards trust and betrayal between couples, in the world, is way too recent honestly.

How do you figure? I mean as far as history is concerned, the 1920s are fairly late. Though these were times of great social change, even then old Rockefellers and Rothschilds having a new 18-20 something year old harlot on arm every year wasn't seen in good favor (even if it made many men envious).
Can we get past the historical tangents? I'll be trapped here forever if we keep going.

the circunstances of the marriage is already stablished in this world long ago remember?

I remember, but even then Shizuko's husband was characterized as the textbook definition of a hoodrat, just so that Ceres' virtue and cultural differences with the people of his new world are contrasted ever more sharply.
Guess the expectation was skewed towards all the other husbands either being dead or likewise worthless sacks of human garbage.

A thing that was not explained that well on the manga is that Ceres kinda flirted with all the moms there, in specifically the mothers of his former party so Shizuko knows now that, confirming his love for her, he would most likely like the idea of having all of them as wives.
She being happy now with this jackpot of a guy she found, she probably wants to share with her best friends that she already know have unhappy married lifes (in bed) and again, most of them openly lustin elsewere or just not sexing at all.

Ah, so like I said, it really is just poor presentation that is the problem here.

 

[shinshom]

How do you figure? I mean as far as history is concerned, the 1920s are fairly late. Though these were times of great social change, even then old Rockefellers and Rothschilds having a new 18-20 something year old harlot on arm every year wasn't seen in good favor (even if it made many men envious).
Can we get past the historical tangents? I'll be trapped here forever if we keep going.

I remember, but even then Shizuko's husband was characterized as the textbook definition of a hoodrat, just so that Ceres' virtue and cultural differences with the people of his new world are contrasted ever more sharply.
Guess the expectation was skewed towards all the other husbands either being dead or likewise worthless sacks of human garbage.

Ah, so like I said, it really is just poor presentation that is the problem here.

Thr history tangent was just to show that romantic marriege is too recent in history. Was before a contract to man hunt for food and woman take care of children. When we see romantic stories of before is mostly of a more modern era romanticizing old eras couple.

But yeah is mostly lacking of presentation, but its hard, the author is already using a shit ton of exposition but to present his horny setup, needs a lot more setup which is a bit hard im manga.

and well just to remmeber how sure Shizuko was sure Ceres would actually want a harem, first 2 images of the first Chapter kinda illustrate that Ceres is just in denial of his true desires of course XD

 

[MiguelH224]

Wife: "Ight, now go seduce her, do it now pussy!"


Husband: "...........I'm sorry, what?"

 

[booterror]

Look ma'am, I'm... uncomfortable... with the way you keep saying "rules"

 

[Aichan]

So let me guess, Kazuma is gay?

 

[Roadwarior2]

Thr history tangent was just to show that romantic marriege is too recent in history. Was before a contract to man hunt for food and woman take care of children. When we see romantic stories of before is mostly of a more modern era romanticizing old eras couple.

Whilst marriage solely for romance is a recent concept, and while yes there are definitely more practical considerations for marriage traditionally, to act as if most or even all marriages pre-20th century were loveless and solely practical affairs is ludicrously ahistorical (we're not Vulcans ffs). There are frequent enough examples in both history and old stories that show that.

But yeah is mostly lacking of presentation, but its hard, the author is already using a shit ton of exposition but to present his horny setup, needs a lot more setup which is a bit hard im manga.
and well just to remmeber how sure Shizuko was sure Ceres would actually want a harem, first 2 images of the first Chapter kinda illustrate that Ceres is just in denial of his true desires of course XD

See this is why I prefer things like
https://vndb.org/v15600
for my MILF/married woman harem fix.
No wishy washy bs for why this is acceptable, it's just "I'm a horny degenerate, you're a horny degenerate, lets fuck!". Refreshingly honest.

 

[Wolvenworks]

Remember, if someone bring real life stuff into the happy ecchi fantasy manga, they’re a jerk/attention seeker, and therefore just ignore the barking.

 

[shinshom]

Whilst marriage solely for romance is a recent concept, and while yes there are definitely more practical considerations for marriage traditionally, to act as if most or even all marriages pre-20th century were loveless and solely practical affairs is ludicrously ahistorical (we're not Vulcans ffs). There are frequent enough examples in both history and old stories that show that.

See this is why I prefer things like
https://vndb.org/v15600
for my MILF/married woman harem fix.
No wishy washy bs for why this is acceptable, it's just "I'm a horny degenerate, you're a horny degenerate, lets fuck!". Refreshingly honest.

haha I see your point for sure, I myself hate the idea of NTR XD.

but don't get me wrong, my whole point was mostly based on my.... mmm fascination on Yobai maybe because was a thing I never imagine existed, and I think or justify a lot of weird views of sex and woman that Japan has or is a consequence of how it is.

But sadly from here and on.... the author's writing..... well..... Im hoping the manga manages to save ot somehow. I went to read the web novel because I wanted to see the shitstorm and was quite disappointed with the writing and world building XD

 

[Ally04]

I REALLY expect the bro to be chill with this, because otherwise this is way too degenerate for me

Also, this already too fucked up, they live a good life (not romantically, but still good), shizuko just want to be within an harem wtf

 

[Ally04]

Also, Yobai is really strange, you interrupt others person sleep and ask to fuck them? I expect this to be rare because I don't know how this could work

 

[Satsuki-Nada]

What the fuck

 

[gravreverse]

why is my new wife pushing me to fuck someone else? redflags in rl, whatever in this horny manga

 

[BlackElite]

Even if it makes sense in few chapters. Marriage is not just about love but also commitment and responsibility, as well as your child's feeling...

Ahh forget it, we can't apply the same moral standards of our planet with theirs...

It’ll all make sense after a few chapter don’t worry guys.

 

[shadowtempestdemon]

I'm fine with Shizuka since her husband is a dirtbag, but this is crossing the line

 

[Kozat]

NTR Rule

 

[Loli_Connosieur]

He better fuckin' not

 

[Selfisch]

This is the point where I am dropping this, I was prepared for him to take the wives of horrible people. But in this case even if the plot makes it out to be okay morality wise that is still the wife of someone he considers his brother, like wtf

 

[Vergift]

Should I consider this....a legal NTR?? 😅