Zenbu Kowashite Jigoku de Aishite - Vol. 4 Ch. 16 - Translucent Waves

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Naoi doesn't want to be anywhere near Kudou in the first place. She's only interacting with her out of guilt and to save money to move in with Kurumi. Now her interactions with Kudou are a liability to the latter, so it would make sense that Kudou has to go. Plus, every volume ends with a happy moment between the leads, so only 3 more chapters of major drama before Naoi and Kurumi basically have to make up.
Yeah, actually, that probably makes more sense :pacman:
 
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Out the frying pan and into the fire... she's cooked (no pun intended).

Seems everyone is a freak... keep it going, this shit oddly endearin 🔥
 
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Chat when will the girls be okay 🥺
I desperately need them to be okay
They're everything to me
Kurumi and Naoi you'll achieve happiness one day I swear

Thanks for the chapter!!
 
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I generally think that at this point that it's too late to redeem Kokoro's character. This feels like her last stand.
I have to agree with that (and also about Kokoro's height - she always looming over Kurumi while wanting to see herself as diminutive and cute). Kokoro can cause more problems, but narratively she is now an assaulter who essentially broke into Kurumi's house. She also picked getting into bed with Kurumi to examine her over waking her up or leaving a note. Kokoro is seeming like a fairly skilled manipulator here, finding lots of ways to get leverage while ignoring Kurumi's boundaries. The valid reasons Kokoro has to worry about Kurumi and to mistrust Naoi cannot outweigh this. Kurumi knows it as well.

In real life, I would not see Kokoro as irredeemable. No one really is and she is still a minor. However, the best she could do for Kurumi at this point is to leave Kurumi alone. This would need to be combined with spending a lot of time working through her own issues and thinking about how she treats people. It would be unlikely to result in reconciliation, though I'm sure Kurumi would accept a proper apology without strings attatched, but Kokoro could go on to have positive relationships with other people. Not a lot of room here for her to continue in this story, however.

Also, I bet Naoi will see the missed call and come to check on Kurumi when Kurumi doesn't pick up a return call. Kururmi will have to fend off or be victimized by Kokoro in the mean time. This could lead to a misunderstanding, but I'm sure it would only last until they talked about it.
 
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Also, I bet Naoi will see the missed call and come to check on Kurumi when Kurumi doesn't pick up a return call. Kururmi will have to fend off or be victimized by Kokoro in the mean time.
My best guess is that Naoi will sneak in the window like she did in chapter 11. And then be more like her younger self when she was protecting her mother and little sister. Naoi is also at a disadvantage size-wise this time as well, since Naoi is even smaller than Kurumi is. If Kurumi does eventually pull the scissors on Kokoro it might be to protect Naoi from her.
 
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Fuck yes. I really needed my heavy fix of toxic yuri.
Thanks for the chapter!
 
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My best guess is that Naoi will sneak in the window like she did in chapter 11. And then be more like her younger self when she was protecting her mother and little sister. Naoi is also at a disadvantage size-wise this time as well, since Naoi is even smaller than Kurumi is. If Kurumi does eventually pull the scissors on Kokoro it might be to protect Naoi from her.
I suspect it will be hard for Naoi to physically arrive before damage is done. She can't teleport into Kurumi's bed like a certain alien. I think Naoi will be responding to fallout, unless Kurumi can delay with some fast thinking.

How the scissors, which I hadn't noticed before this thread, play into this could be interesting. Are they a weapon? If so, for whom? Are they to cut the phone line? Is Naoi going to need to save Kokoro's life so that Kurumi doesn't go to prison?
 
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I think Naoi will be responding to fallout, unless Kurumi can delay with some fast thinking.
Kurumi could do her best to keep things from escalating by keeping Kokoro talking. Like maybe get some flashbacks as them remembering the "good old days" that appear not very good from Kurumi's POV. After all, Kokoro did say they had "time to think about it properly." So, Kurumi could use that as a stalling tactic.
 
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Kurumi could do her best to keep things from escalating by keeping Kokoro talking. Like maybe get some flashbacks as them remembering the "good old days" that appear not very good from Kurumi's POV. After all, Kokoro did say they had "time to think about it properly." So, Kurumi could use that as a stalling tactic.
This would be very intelligent of her, but not in line with how she has acted thus far. She mostly has been passive and tried to deal with everything on her own, with the other times being episodes of explosive anger where she lashed out. She has not been great at "managing people".

I wouldn't really have an issue with it if she did delay. It is a crisis situation for her, so it wouldn't be unrealistic for her to discover a new tactic. Kurumi unmasking and lashing out at Kokoro verbally or physically still seems more likely to me - not that I've had good luck predicting this story so far.
 
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This would be very intelligent of her, but not in line with how she has acted thus far.
I just thought that it could be a possibility, since most of the current flashbacks about their past together were told from Kokoro's POV, which is unreliable to say the least. Plus, Kurumi conveniently not remembering the chapter 7 flashback. With Kokoro very likely on her way out of the story soon, this is pretty much the last chance to get Kurumi's side of things.
 
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Love the conversation between Kokoro and Akane at the start. We could all use a friend like that; someone who, when they see us engaging in introspection and taking those first few difficult steps down the long road to self improvement, will smack us upside the head and tell us what we really need to hear: "Nah dawg, double down on that creepy, possessive shit you're doing. You're fucking perfect just the way you are."
 
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Love the conversation between Kokoro and Akane at the start. We could all use a friend like that; someone who, when they see us engaging in introspection and taking those first few difficult steps down the long road to self improvement, will smack us upside the head and tell us what we really need to hear: "Nah dawg, double down on that creepy, possessive shit you're doing. You're fucking perfect just the way you are."
to be fair to akane, it's not like she has a full enough picture of what's going on to understand what she suggested kokoro should do.
 
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Love the conversation between Kokoro and Akane at the start. We could all use a friend like that; someone who, when they see us engaging in introspection and taking those first few difficult steps down the long road to self improvement, will smack us upside the head and tell us what we really need to hear: "Nah dawg, double down on that creepy, possessive shit you're doing. You're fucking perfect just the way you are."
To be fair, this is almost certainly not what she meant by "Give it your best shot." The explicit rejection (which Kokoro hadn't received yet and which some people need to move on) would have been a good time for Kokoro to leave to go cry at Akane.

Too bad Kokoro is bonkers. Or good for us, since we get to read the drama. However no character except maybe Naoi realized this about Kokoro until now.
 
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Love the conversation between Kokoro and Akane at the start. We could all use a friend like that; someone who, when they see us engaging in introspection and taking those first few difficult steps down the long road to self improvement, will smack us upside the head and tell us what we really need to hear: "Nah dawg, double down on that creepy, possessive shit you're doing. You're fucking perfect just the way you are."
I got the impression that Akane favors Kokoro over Kurumi and assumed it was Kurumi's fault. Maybe she thought that Kokoro approaching Kurumi one final time and getting rejected would finally get it through Kokoro's head to move on.
 
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I got the impression that Akane favors Kokoro over Kurumi and assumed it was Kurumi's fault. Maybe she thought that Kokoro approaching Kurumi one final time and getting rejected would finally get it through Kokoro's head to move on.
I think she didn't criticize Kokoro because Kokoro was already criticizing herself and describing her actions as a mistake. I saw the subtext as more "It's not all your fault." That's actually true, even if it's 90% Kokoro's (more if we include the mom who is the original source) fault at this point. Akane couldn't have expected a seemingly guilty and repentant Kokoro to touch Kurumi in her sleep and physically pin her down.
 
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Kokoro and Kudou are pissing me off already.... Kokoro more since she was a weirdo from the beginning lol
 

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