Zenbu Kowashite Jigoku de Aishite - Vol. 4 Ch. 17 - Getting Dizzy

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FUCK I DESPERATELY NEED KURUMI TO BE OKAY EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
SHE IS EVERYTHING TO ME I HATE SEEING HER CONSTANTLY IN PAIN AND SUFFERING
THE FACT THAT THE PHONE IS UNPLUGGED
THAT NAOI IS THE ONLY PERSON SHE CAN RELY ON EVEN THOUGH THEIR RELATIONSHIP STARTED OFF POORLY
literally I don't care if it's together or separately I need both of them, especially kurumi, to be happy in life. I need them to experience joy and no longer be burdened by the cruelty of the world

Thank you for the chapter it feeds the brainrot
 
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To start off, it seems that Naoi never felt any guilt over Kudou. She only agreed to the deal solely for the money and had always planned to cut Kudou off at the end of summer. A summer job basically. It seems all Kudou's pressure did was have Naoi settle on the quickest path to money. Obviously, Kudou has no idea that's the case. I'm sure she won't be happy when she finds out. Though with how things went this chapter, it seems like Naoi might've already cut Kudou off for good after the stunt with her phone. Speaking of, due to Kudou's actions causing Kurumi to be a received call and not a missed one, she caused Kurumi to be trapped by Kokoro for hours. I'm guessing Kudou either thought the call wasn't a big deal, or didn't want to risk Naoi leaving before her humiliation session could start. Either way, it feels like Kuwabara is trying really hard to turn Kudou into a hatesink.

Naoi's super angry at Kudou, but also likely getting worried as Kurumi obviously won't be able to pick up any calls from her, or even realize she was trying to contact her in the first place due to Kokoro. It's hard to say what Naoi might walk into. However, Kuwabara had Kokoro stay passive long enough for Naoi to make it to Kurumi's house before anything really happens. Notice that Kokoro and Kurumi weren't even allowed to have their first date before the story split them up, since Kuwabara wanted Kurumi's first date to be with Naoi. I don't think Kokoro's getting any first times this time either.

As for Kurumi, she was basically held prisoner by Kokoro in her own house from breakfast time to dinner time. An entire day. Constantly walking on eggshells for fear that Kokoro might snap again and become violent. Once again Kokoro was compared to Kurumi's mother. Always monitoring her. And Kokoro basically planned to become Kurumi's jailer permanently, as Kurumi realized to her horror near the end of the chapter.

It was so sad when Kurumi realized that she couldn't stop Kokoro from invading her house since her mother had given Kokoro the key to do so literally. Also, notice how it was made clear in the panels that Kokoro had unplugged the phone so that Kurumi couldn't call for help again. It also served the purpose of preventing Naoi from contacting Kurumi and being able to explain herself. Kokoro not even wanting Kurumi to be alone for a minute to use the bathroom was really creepy. I hate to say it, but playing along with Kokoro's delusions, even if only to keep her calm, seems to be causing them to escalate. Kokoro has too much power in this situation.

Kurumi is also struggling because of the uncertainty of what Naoi's been up to. Naoi kept the deal with Kudou a secret. And it seems the sound effects in the panel last chapter were Kurumi and Kokoro scrambling for the phone, meaning Kurumi heard the part about the hotel. The thing is though, due to what was happening at the time, it's questionable if Kurumi heard Naoi talk dismissively to Kudou or if she heard the part about the room being part of a "girls night out package", since those are typically used for platonic meetups of female friends. It also seems that current events are likely leading to Kurumi realizing that she has romantic feelings for Naoi, since she can't understand why she's so angry over a "friend" possibly getting a girlfriend.

It certainly doesn't help that Naoi's actual part-time job and drive to earn money from Kudou have kept Naoi occupied lately, meaning that while Naoi wants the money so her and Kurumi can be closer in the future, Kurumi is feeling neglected now. Also, Kurumi's feeling intense unconscious jealousy, which she is having trouble processing as it's likely the first time she felt that way. She even seemed to end up with mental images of Naoi doing "that" with another girl while she was trying to vent by pleasuring herself. They really need to have a talk.

As for the end of the chapter, I have to wonder how Kurumi will respond. Because she just had an angry outburst at Kokoro for letting herself in uninvited a second time. Went off about not caring what Kokoro thinks. And even talked about how mad she was at everyone for being so selfish, Kokoro included. And the first thing Kokoro thinks to say is to ask Kurumi for sex. While I hope Kurumi gives Kokoro a flat rejection, Kurumi's mental state might cause her to initially go along with it before later backing out because it's not what she really wants. At that point Kokoro might try to force things, so that Naoi will get to have her moment in the spotlight next chapter when she disrupts things.

My best guess on the endgame of this volume, is to have Kurumi and Naoi acknowledge their romantic feelings for each other, at least internally. Though I have to wonder where Kurumi will stay after this confrontation ends. Her own house obviously won't feel safe after that day. And Naoi's apartment is likely a no-go due to her father. Maybe they could end up at another hotel. Though if Kudou's still in the area she might see them. Which would be interesting if Kudou also has a sudden realization for her own romantic feelings for Naoi, thus cementing herself as a future antagonist. I'm almost certain she'll end up transferring to their class after summer vacation's over.

This volume started off very heavy, so I imagine chapter 20 is going to have some major catharsis. It might also end up being a pretty long chapter, since chapters 16 and 17 have been relatively shorter.
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ALL I CAN SAY IS WTF. I SWEAR TO GOD IF KOKORO TOUCHES HER IM GONNA LOSE IT. Ugh, Naoi better umizoomi..... But what if she walks in on them if Kurumi agrees. I CANT
 
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its like The Summer You Were There, but actually please leave her alone GOD DAMNNNN
 
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To start off, it seems that Naoi never felt any guilt over Kudou. She only agreed to the deal solely for the money and had always planned to cut Kudou off at the end of summer. A summer job basically. It seems all Kudou's pressure did was have Naoi settle on the quickest path to money. Obviously, Kudou has no idea that's the case. I'm sure she won't be happy when she finds out. Though with how things went this chapter, it seems like Naoi might've already cut Kudou off for good after the stunt with her phone. Speaking of, due to Kudou's actions causing Kurumi to be a received call and not a missed one, she caused Kurumi to be trapped by Kokoro for hours. I'm guessing Kudou either thought the call wasn't a big deal, or didn't want to risk Naoi leaving before her humiliation session could start. Either way, it feels like Kuwabara is trying really hard to turn Kudou into a hatesink.

Naoi's super angry at Kudou, but also likely getting worried as Kurumi obviously won't be able to pick up any calls from her, or even realize she was trying to contact her in the first place due to Kokoro. It's hard to say what Naoi might walk into. However, Kuwabara had Kokoro stay passive long enough for Naoi to make it to Kurumi's house before anything really happens. Notice that Kokoro and Kurumi weren't even allowed to have their first date before the story split them up, since Kuwabara wanted Kurumi's first date to be with Naoi. I don't think Kokoro's getting any first times this time either.

As for Kurumi, she was basically held prisoner by Kokoro in her own house from breakfast time to dinner time. An entire day. Constantly walking on eggshells for fear that Kokoro might snap again and become violent. Once again Kokoro was compared to Kurumi's mother. Always monitoring her. And Kokoro basically planned to become Kurumi's jailer permanently, as Kurumi realized to her horror near the end of the chapter.

It was so sad when Kurumi realized that she couldn't stop Kokoro from invading her house since her mother had given Kokoro the key to do so literally. Also, notice how it was made clear in the panels that Kokoro had unplugged the phone so that Kurumi couldn't call for help again. It also served the purpose of preventing Naoi from contacting Kurumi and being able to explain herself. Kokoro not even wanting Kurumi to be alone for a minute to use the bathroom was really creepy. I hate to say it, but playing along with Kokoro's delusions, even if only to keep her calm, seems to be causing them to escalate. Kokoro has too much power in this situation.

Kurumi is also struggling because of the uncertainty of what Naoi's been up to. Naoi kept the deal with Kudou a secret. And it seems the sound effects in the panel last chapter were Kurumi and Kokoro scrambling for the phone, meaning Kurumi heard the part about the hotel. The thing is though, due to what was happening at the time, it's questionable if Kurumi heard Naoi talk dismissively to Kudou or if she heard the part about the room being part of a "girls night out package", since those are typically used for platonic meetups of female friends. It also seems that current events are likely leading to Kurumi realizing that she has romantic feelings for Naoi, since she can't understand why she's so angry over a "friend" possibly getting a girlfriend.

It certainly doesn't help that Naoi's actual part-time job and drive to earn money from Kudou have kept Naoi occupied lately, meaning that while Naoi wants the money so her and Kurumi can be closer in the future, Kurumi is feeling neglected now. Also, Kurumi's feeling intense unconscious jealousy, which she is having trouble processing as it's likely the first time she felt that way. She even seemed to end up with mental images of Naoi doing "that" with another girl while she was trying to vent by pleasuring herself. They really need to have a talk.

As for the end of the chapter, I have to wonder how Kurumi will respond. Because she just had an angry outburst at Kokoro for letting herself in uninvited a second time. Went off about not caring what Kokoro thinks. And even talked about how mad she was at everyone for being so selfish, Kokoro included. And the first thing Kokoro thinks to say is to ask Kurumi for sex. While I hope Kurumi gives Kokoro a flat rejection, Kurumi's mental state might cause her to initially go along with it before later backing out because it's not what she really wants. At that point Kokoro might try to force things, so that Naoi will get to have her moment in the spotlight next chapter when she disrupts things.

My best guess on the endgame of this volume, is to have Kurumi and Naoi acknowledge their romantic feelings for each other, at least internally. Though I have to wonder where Kurumi will stay after this confrontation ends. Her own house obviously won't feel safe after that day. And Naoi's apartment is likely a no-go due to her father. Maybe they could end up at another hotel. Though if Kudou's still in the area she might see them. Which would be interesting if Kudou also has a sudden realization for her own romantic feelings for Naoi, thus cementing herself as a future antagonist. I'm almost certain she'll end up transferring to their class after summer vacation's over.

This volume started off very heavy, so I imagine chapter 20 is going to have some major catharsis. It might also end up being a pretty long chapter, since chapters 16 and 17 have been relatively shorter.
Didnt read lol
 
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The month long wait is both long and short with how busy life can be. On a sidenote, have we ever had a weekly yuri manga (or one with a yuri subplot?) I think we have had bimonthly (twice a month) ones at least.
Kurumi didn't want to date her she did it because she feared a self destruction like her mother. She feels smothered, she was overpowered and stripped of her ability to call for help, like what makes you think she can consent here?
I want to add that even if she had willingly agreed to date, that doesn't mean her consent is available 24/7. Plus, the fact that she literally states she wants to break up but is dismissed as "not in her right mind" in the last chapter.
 
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if Kokoro doesn’t transfer out she’ll have to go to school with someone who tried to sexually assault her
Even if Kokoro does transfer out, that could result in Akane blaming Kurumi for what happens and becoming antagonistic toward her. Especially if the details of the incident are kept secret.
 
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The month long wait is both long and short with how busy life can be. On a sidenote, have we ever had a weekly yuri manga (or one with a yuri subplot?) I think we have had bimonthly (twice a month) ones at least.

I want to add that even if she had willingly agreed to date, that doesn't mean her consent is available 24/7. Plus, the fact that she literally states she wants to break up but is dismissed as "not in her right mind" in the last chapter.
Counterpoint: This is OpsKuro's final chance to see Kokoro do it.

I could be wrong about their motivations here, but I would be surprised if real world ethics had anything to do with it. Though I thankfully don't see the author going very far with this - just enough for Naoi to dramatically bust in through the window.
 
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Though I thankfully don't see the author going very far with this - just enough for Naoi to dramatically bust in through the window.
The window getting broken is likely with all the glass references on the last few chapter covers. Plus the window was how Naoi entered the house in chapter 11. Kokoro might've locked the door behind her when she came back in.
 
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Kurumi didn't want to date her she did it because she feared a self destruction like her mother. She feels smothered, she was overpowered and stripped of her ability to call for help, like what makes you think she can consent here?
i mean overpowered yes i can see that but unless she gonna grape her after saying no i dont have a problem with childhood friend taking a single win mate owo
im not saying she should consent or not, if she does, cool, if not, cool, nothing happens and we jump straight to the ending, unless rape oc
theyre dating, she doesnt have a gun to her skull, id personally like a lil action between them
also bestie was doing all that bdsm sht and i could count that as ntr, still like her tho
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