Zenbu Kowashite Jigoku de Aishite - Vol. 6 Ch. 27 - Complexity

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So at the same time Kurumi was demanding Isanuma contact the teacher Mine was probably demanding the teacher contact Isanuma, which is why his out-of-nowhere text asking to meet up came at that moment and then he had his phone on with Mine listening in just like Kurumi was listening in through Isanuma's phone.

It's like toxic yuri poetry, it rhymes.

 

[mipoki]

best christmas gift EVER

 

[kr3sn1k]

Zenkowa for Christmas we’re being spoiled

 

[TanyaTheEvil]

I so love this manga, its getting more and more interesting. Thanks for the chapter and translation

 

[KnightSpark]

...That's some mastermind behavior right there.

 

[Eukene]

The Isanuma / Kurumi team up continues to be fun. They work very well together. I wonder if we'll get some sort of unlikely friendship where they realize their goals don't conflict with each other. Kurumi is forgiving to people who engage sincerely with her, so even Isanuma would only need to give Kurumi a reason to trust her.

Honestly, this chapter made it really clear that Isanuma isn't over the teacher at this point. Though I think him trying to kiss up to her this chapter was fake, and just him trying to get her to back down and not do anything else to get him into trouble. He was probably worried she'd report him to the school for almost attacking her in chapter 25. Him getting his comeuppance finally is really overdue, so I don't see him lasting past the end of this volume. He's just a pawn in the other's games.

We said this about Kokoro too and here we are.

The teacher may get shelved temporarily like Kokoro, but he's still potentially useful to various people. I expect him to last at least until the end of the school year, as otherwise we are throwing away an established character. We'd then need an entirely new one to enter the story into an influential position.

 

[Mistilteinn]

The teacher may get shelved temporarily like Kokoro, but he's still potentially useful to various people. I expect him to last at least until the end of the school year, as otherwise we are throwing away an established character. We'd then need an entirely new one to enter the story into an influential position.

Mine figuratively threw him in the trash this chapter. While she might leave him alone, he did cause Mine problems by outing her as the culprit to Isanuma and Kurumi. He's also seemingly on thin ice with the school higher ups already due to the previous incidents. Kurumi's plan to have him rug sweep the arch incident too likely won't go well given how he so publicly declared Naoi the culprit originally.

 

[dixiegray03]

Kudo doesn't want Naoi to be completely dependent on her. She's addicted to Naoi's sadistic treatment of her dating back to that abusive encounter in... middle school? Kudo doesn't care about the money or even really care about Naoi; she just wants Naoi to stay the same horrible person who turned her into a barely-functional masochist, because only Naoi can sate those masochistic desires.

That's why she tries so hard to separate Kurumi and Naoi; Kurumi gets in the way not only by distracting Naoi (ignoring that Naoi barely tolerates Kudo's existence to begin with and only even took the money to start saving for college), but because Kurumi makes Naoi want to be a better person. Kurumi makes Naoi feel happy and guilty, both of which dull the bitter animosity that makes Kudo so fixated on Naoi. Without that Naoi is no longer the person who Kudo became obsessed with, the one person in existence who can feed her addiction.

It's like a druggie forcing their dealer to keep dealing rather than turn over a new leaf.

Precisely this. Admittedly, I started this series hoping for mutually toxic yuri, so Naoi bullying Kurumi made me dislike her but she’s a good character and she deserves better despite her behavior. Kudou is like the one exception I have. She is the consequences of Naoi’s actions personified. her victim is now an abuser. Someone she traumatized is back for vengeance and I wonder if Naoi realizing may get Kudou to stop…or a police call. Two wrongs don’t make a right but I hope they both learn this kind of violence helps no one.

 

[Mistilteinn]

Someone she traumatized is back for vengeance and I wonder if Naoi realizing may get Kudou to stop…or a police call. Two wrongs don’t make a right but I hope they both learn this kind of violence helps no one.

Chapter 20.5 recontextualizes Kudou's side of things alot. She's infatuated with Naoi. She's angry at being abandoned for sure, but as far as her true motive, she wants what she perceived as their romantic relationship back.

 

[Eukene]

For sure Kudou doesn't see herself as an abused person or want revenge on Naoi. She wants Naoi, period.

Mine figuratively threw him in the trash this chapter. While she might leave him alone, he did cause Mine problems by outing her as the culprit to Isanuma and Kurumi. He's also seemingly on thin ice with the school higher ups already due to the previous incidents. Kurumi's plan to have him rug sweep the arch incident too likely won't go well given how he so publicly declared Naoi the culprit originally.

This is the same person who missed something as obvious as leaving paint on her shoes and coming to school with them. Mine isn't so OP that she throws someone in the trash and the author has no choice but to write the character out of the story. She also is after Isanuma, so how Isanuma responds matters too.

It could happen as you describe- in that, she can be written as holding some very damning materials on the teacher and deciding her influence with Isanuma will be greater with the teacher out of the picture. That happening successfully would lose potential character dynamics like the teacher helping Naoi in some way (if only to maintain his reputation) to make up for his mistakes, Isanuma's evolving feelings about the teacher, what lessens Kurumi learns from his failings and how she interacts with him going forward, and more.

I'll be surprised if he's really gone, unless this is all leading to a time skip where we jump to summer or their final year.

 

[MsW0lf]

Yeah, the teacher’s response is definitely from someone who is trapped from every side. I’m sure Mine has some blackmail material on him. Hence why he tried to reach out to Naoi, if he was damned anyway, might as well try and get something out of it. But now that both Mine AND Kurumi can blackmail him, and one will blackmail him regardless of which side he chooses, he can do nothing but resign himself to his fate.

Hence he’s been thrown in the trash.

And I am high key LOVING the Kurumi/Naoi teamup! Not in a shipping way, but because they work so well together in a surprisingly and ironically non-toxic way. Disregarding their history, and circumstances, and actions, they’re current relationship is the least toxic out of anyone!

 

[Mistilteinn]

It could happen as you describe- in that, she can be written as holding some very damning materials on the teacher and deciding her influence with Isanuma will be greater with the teacher out of the picture. That happening successfully would lose potential character dynamics like the teacher helping Naoi in some way (if only to maintain his reputation) to make up for his mistakes, Isanuma's evolving feelings about the teacher, what lessens Kurumi learns from his failings and how she interacts with him going forward, and more.

I think it really depends on what Mine was blackmailing him with. If it's actually "he hooks up with high school girls in his free time", then I don't think the story would make any attempt to redeem him. And it would likely lead to an Isanuma rebounding arc where she latches onto another person, possibly Kudou, if Kudou's still going by her school persona. Which would obviously complicate things given Kudou's fixation on Naoi and Isanuma now knowing about Kurumi's feelings for Naoi.

 

[MacinteuchPlus]

Ah sweet a new chapter of Everybody go to therapy

 

[Maoshin]

Yeah, the teacher’s response is definitely from someone who is trapped from every side. I’m sure Mine has some blackmail material on him. Hence why he tried to reach out to Naoi, if he was damned anyway, might as well try and get something out of it. But now that both Mine AND Kurumi can blackmail him, and one will blackmail him regardless of which side he chooses, he can do nothing but resign himself to his fate.

Hence he’s been thrown in the trash.

And I am high key LOVING the Kurumi/Naoi teamup! Not in a shipping way, but because they work so well together in a surprisingly and ironically non-toxic way. Disregarding their history, and circumstances, and actions, they’re current relationship is the least toxic out of anyone!

I think you meant Kurumi/Isanuma teamup 😅

 

[Luvky_Person]

Ugh this is so goddamn toxic who would read toxic yuri....... I love this

 

[Eukene]

I think it really depends on what Mine was blackmailing him with. If it's actually "he hooks up with high school girls in his free time", then I don't think the story would make any attempt to redeem him. And it would likely lead to an Isanuma rebounding arc where she latches onto another person, possibly Kudou, if Kudou's still going by her school persona. Which would obviously complicate things given Kudou's fixation on Naoi and Isanuma now knowing about Kurumi's feelings for Naoi.

It seems unlikely he did something like that. He looked extremely uncomfortable while agreeing to the date with Isanuma and we haven't seen evidence of him getting involved with other students.

Also:

Yeah, the teacher’s response is definitely from someone who is trapped from every side. I’m sure Mine has some blackmail material on him. Hence why he tried to reach out to Naoi, if he was damned anyway, might as well try and get something out of it. But now that both Mine AND Kurumi can blackmail him, and one will blackmail him regardless of which side he chooses, he can do nothing but resign himself to his fate.

This implies the blackmail material is roughly equal to what Kurumi has, a hug and admitting to framing a student, or else he would remain in camp Mine. We know he's extremely concerned with his reputation, so it doesn't take much to freak him out. His guilt isn't a sign he's someone who's going to be facing jail time.

However, helping Naoi doesn't require redeeming him. He can be forced into it by Kurumi: "At least make sure Naoi can attend school and write her a letter of recommendation or there will be more blackmail." Alternatively, he could want to show he's taking responsibility for his "mistake" in accusing Naoi, which would be done to protect his career and rebuild his reputation as a good and responsible teacher.

I expect no adults in this series to be redeemed in any sense of the word. As I said in another thread, I think they're meant to show how the kids will end up if they don't change.

It seems to me that the author is interested in writing a story where things are not as dark as they seem. People can fall to bad impulses, but also learn to be better when someone gives them the chance. A lot of sympathetic qualities were written into Naoi, Kurumi, and also Kokoro. Some of them seem like for-the-evuls characters like Isanuma and Kudou, but we also know the least about their backstories. However, we've never seen them question their own behavior yet, which Naoi, Kurumi, Kokoro, Akane, and Isanuma's friend (I forget her name) do. That doesn't mean none of the latter group will fall to the dark side, but I can't write any of them off.

The adults meanwhile are a lost cause. They've already decided who they were going to be, are deep set in their habits, and lost their chance to improve. Their fault for being over 20 in a manga. I'd like to be wrong, but I think the author wants to give the kids the focus. The adults are only a plot device as well as a way to show what can happen if you follow certain impulses to their end, like Naoi and her father or Kokoro and Kurumi's mother. I don't know if Kurumi has an equivalent; maybe the teacher who tries to please everyone and keep up his image, but without Kurumi's sense of ethics.

Therefore the adults can only be managed and handled until everyone escapes to college and self actualizes themselves.

 

[ezzhead]

Damn kudou's still hot. If only she was a functioning member of society. Oh well, smash.
(This is filth and not indicative of me as a person)

 

[veryminty00]

LOL THE CALICO CRITTERS

 

[Eukene]

For the speculation sweepstakes, I've been trying to think what is the worst believable material Mine could have. My bid here is: Isanuma kissing the teacher, billed as the teacher kissing Isanuma.

I still think this would be enough for him to stay in camp Mine, as this would be career ending in a way hugging a distressed student and an out of context recording isn't. Therefore my real guess is Isanuma initiated pda at a lower level, like holding hands or kissing him on the cheek, and Mine stalked the date to get a clear photo of it.

Even if he tells the truth that Isanuma initiated it, he has to explain why he was secretly hanging out with a female student in the first place. He could come up with a good excuse and capitalize on plausible deniability, but he'd want to avoid this situation if at all possible. Once Kurumi enters the picture, he has three different, unpredictable students messing with him. This is enough for him to back off, rather than risk making the situation worse than it already is.

 

[weleasewodger]

Nice boat vibes from Mine- san