Zettai ni Hatarakitakunai Dungeon Master ga Damin wo Musaboru made - Vol. 3 Ch. 13 - A Bargain

[Needhydra]

@ksen @Tempomancer9934
the better analogy is putting up art in a museum with free admission then have someone take a picture of said art and draws on a bit then puts it in the same museum.

 

[Kittypony]

So weird to see her called meat instead of Niku.

 

[Tempomancer9934]

@ksen
admitting that for the stealing part you're not wrong.
But if the "thief" didn't gave credits it still not good. In your analogy, it's like you said "I'm giving you all MY chair that I CREATED" even if it's implicit. If you don't say who are the one who originally gave the chair, everybody will thinks that you are the one.
And for the joke part, you make it seems like they are the one that made all the jokes. You are not responsible for the action from peoples you know nothing from.

 

[Needhydra]

@Kittypony its based on wn tl and to distance from j-novel tl

 

[Amplify]

@Needhydra
No, his analogy is perfect as it is, you're suffering from cognitive dissonance.

 

[ksen]

@Needhydra
I wish you stopped comparing this to art, cause this is getting hilariously more dumb.
And as an artist I will actually say that no one would have issue if that analogy of yours happened.
How do you think artist work? They actually steal ideas from others. They literally need to do that.
@Tempomancer9934
"thief" didn't give any credit cause no one needed one cause context of previously updated chapter exists. Nor "thief" said that it was his own translation.

 

[Tempomancer9934]

@ksen
yeah you steal "ideas" not the painting

 

[ksen]

@Tempomancer9934
Then you don't want to know how many people use photos and other paintings in their own work. You just don't see/recognize it in result, lol.
So no, analogies are still horrible.

 

[Needhydra]

@ksen I am an artist technically tech art yay video game names thats like 3+ jobs. yah we steal ideas but we don't take the actual work and using as our own it Ubisoft got in trouble for it a little while ago. If im working on something that someone else made i put that someone else made the original version and what i used.

 

[Tempomancer9934]

@ksen
even if you don't say it's not yours, if you don't say it's from someone else, it is like saying it's yours
For exemple, if I say "I think, therefore I am" but don't say it's from Descartes it's plagiarism and you can say it's a king of theft.

 

[ksen]

@Needhydra
Ubisoft made a product they sold. That's why they got in trouble. That's why you yourself put credit cause it affects your portfolio, job propositions, etc.
You did translation free to read of illegal copy of media. Which you gave away. You literally have no ground to complain about stealing. All you do is enjoying attention by being a victim. And overall acting like a fool to boot.
@Tempomancer9934
jesus christ almighty, can you be more pretentios and white knighty? Context exist, stop acting like it doesn't. I have nothing else to discuss.

 

[mammon]

i had to triple take page19 & 20 until i realized that is just 1 girl covering his head and not 2 decapitated girls...

 

[Needhydra]

@ksen im just bored tbh work is kinda slow which is why im going on with this so thanks for the entertainment. yay for slow for at a IT job oof art degree

You dont have to sell anything to get in trouble, just making it will get you in trouble. Yes you can call it a free translation on top of an illegal copy of someone else's ip. But it is more like a fanfic pasted on top of an illegal copy of someone else's ip its only a translation cause we said it was(lol some mango and wn). Technically if I went out of my way to draw the pages(tbh 3d renders) from scratch and slapped the same text on it and called it ldmm that would be trademark dispute if they trademarked the name. Before you say plagiarism there is no eng ver and the if/when there is a eng ver it would not be the same.

oh this is great https://mangadex.org/chapter/845862

 

[ksen]

@Needhydra
that's what I referred to after that, at least read replies if you have this much free time on your hands.
Again, your work tied to your real name. Your job. Your reputation within that job circle. etc. People do steal art to show off as their own, even use that as portfolios to get hired. Or trace to end and back, which is more greyish area depending on how it's made.
This is illegal scanlation of commercially avaiable elsewhere product, which you translated and provided for free for public. If anything - this gets YOU in trouble if you really want to discuss "getting in trouble" aspect this much. (Even that is arguable cause people who do fan translations can get legal work eventually depending on situation instead)
That's why it's side project with zero ties to your job. That's why it's fan project.
Again, being bored is all fun and dandy, but you first made an accusation of stealing, and now made yourself look like a doofus and clown for sake of entertaiment for yourself. Admitting at attentionwhoring.
So look at the damn mirror if you actually being serious about "stealing" unless it's shitty bait - then good work, you made me waste my time. I hope you are happy.

 

[Goretantath]

@NeedHydra "also the actual chapter was/is still in proofing" That wasnt even the REAL translation!? What if someone forces themselves to read it in that messed up form and thinks thats what the reg chapter would be like, then just continues on to the next chapter once the real one was released?.. I had no problems with it till i read that..

 

[argo12]

Y'all are seriously biting the hand that feeds you. These people are spending hours of their time translating and redrawing these manga for people to harass them online. Check your privilege.

 

[Needhydra]

@ksen oh i know im the one that will get in trouble. Rugid got the extra reee stealing cause someone actually took the gifs and compressed the frames together it was kinda unreadable. But lets put it this way there is a reason there is a inform set of rules for translating shiz cause people are weird af and people stopped tling for less. there where comments about us stopping for some reason.

I just want to say if this mango does get picked up officially i bet by jnovel this all goes away really fast like kkkbear did. Also waiting for some rumors to be true.

@Goretantath it was 99% only 2 bubbles that i missed changed a bit.

 

[ksen]

@Needhydra
Scanlators' "rules" are bunch of useless guidelines which hardly make sense if you actually think about them.
All those rules do is overall creating slapfights between scanlators and unnecessary drama for drama sake. Cause your egos are too damn big for no good reason.
So all you do overall - is creating a worse image of yourselves.
Be my guest at that I guess. Job well done.

 

[Needhydra]

@ksen if that image is we like the reees from april fools chapter then perception is now reality.

also the rulez are well yah slap fights and drama now a days but it was useful for a while

 

[ksen]

@Needhydra
Image is that you have huge ego which got into your head, so you act like a clown and put your hard work thru the mud.