Gakeppuchi Reijou wa Kurokishi-sama wo Horesasetai! - Vol. 2 Ch. 11 - I Fell in Love With You!

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I entirely understand why everyone is into the kiss moment, definitely the highlight of the chapter. But where are the Shion simps? This chapter had more than just a kiss!

That aside, yes, that kiss was wild. Clarice had the power of height gap yuri on her side, and managed to bring Frost down half a meter or so. Powerful stuff.
 
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Clarise is the victor in this fight Frost-sama, if you wanna win you will have to meet her in the battle field (the bed). I actually hope it will not take too long for Frost to mellow more so we can have a power couple dealing with the monsters, villains and curses together.

I guess Violet wants Shion to wish to LIVE be her side and not to die for her, she seens to have had enough of death and sacrifices...

ALSO Dhalia x Lyla confirmed? Maybe? HMMM?

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Not sure when exactly this development happened, that she'd start being ACTUALLY interested in Frost. Eh, can't say that I mind, it just feels like there wasn't enough to substantiate this change of mind :nyoron:
 
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I like to believe that because Frost is so used to people being afraid of her that she's simply unused to someone closing the gap so quickly with her. Even in combat her intimidating aura would keep her opponent a certain distance and be wary of her.

When Clarice just grabbed her with no ill intent but firmly she was unprepared and had no defense against her. Simply put, Clarice had the power of Yuri at her side.
 
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Not sure when exactly this development happened, that she'd start being ACTUALLY interested in Frost. Eh, can't say that I mind, it just feels like there wasn't enough to substantiate this change of mind :nyoron:
She was already calling Frost cute in chapter 3. So, like, the development started basically immediately, tho it took time to really take hold.
 
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she's clearly insanely traumatised and has experienced what seems to be severe parental abuse, she fights with her life at stake on a daily basis only to be met with scorn by her citizens, has lived her whole life believing she's incapable of being loved (and the one lady who did seem to care for her that we know of is gone), most likely has ptsd judging by the painful memories and her reaction to them. in this very chapter she has to put on a literal mask of coldness and anger to hide her moment of weakness as a coping mechanism

the pushback to someone who outwardly seems extremely suspicious (and literally does have ulterior motives) is completely understandable from her pov if you keep all these things in mind, not to mention the marriage was forced on her, and her territory she's been fighting tooth and nail for is at stake. all her general brashness and bluntness makes sense when you keep in mind she's had almost zero human interaction whatsoever, seemingly trash parenting and the fact that main fl is literally the only person in her life who doesn't fear or outright loathe her. she's one of the most believable tsunderes of all time i dont get your take
While I completely agree, this is not proof she is not a prick. She is one. She just has very good reasons for being one (which you laid out). So i think it is understandable people might dislike her coarse behaviour even if it is understandable why she is
 
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she's clearly insanely traumatised and has experienced what seems to be severe parental abuse, she fights with her life at stake on a daily basis only to be met with scorn by her citizens, has lived her whole life believing she's incapable of being loved (and the one lady who did seem to care for her that we know of is gone), most likely has ptsd judging by the painful memories and her reaction to them. in this very chapter she has to put on a literal mask of coldness and anger to hide her moment of weakness as a coping mechanism
Oh hell yeah, severe PTSD, and not just from the constant fighting of monsters and so forth, or even from the (apparent) childhood of neglect and abuse, but also I'm guessing that she ended up killing her father because otherwise he would have killed her - the perfect nightmare-flavoured sauce to go on top of the pudding that's been simmering in delicious trauma juice for twenty-odd years. Yum.
the pushback to someone who outwardly seems extremely suspicious (and literally does have ulterior motives) is completely understandable from her pov if you keep all these things in mind, not to mention the marriage was forced on her, and her territory she's been fighting tooth and nail for is at stake. all her general brashness and bluntness makes sense when you keep in mind she's had almost zero human interaction whatsoever, seemingly trash parenting and the fact that main fl is literally the only person in her life who doesn't fear or outright loathe her. she's one of the most believable tsunderes of all time i dont get your take
Clarice kind of had ulterior motives at the start, but she's almost forgotten them by this point - and not just because getting at Frost's supposed riches to help her family is clearly taking a back seat to making sure she doesn't get her head chopped off by the Black Knight, she's also just ended up totally focused on this new (albeit really weird) life, and on Frost herself. That focus started out as it's own form of trauma response, given how their married life started, but I do think it's progressed beyond that to something a bit healthier (though it's hardly anything you might describe as a healthy relationship, of course).

But Frost is absolutely acting like a raging prick. Not that she can help it, of course - that's one of the things that severe trauma will often do to people. But the fact there are entirely understandable reasons for it doesn't change the nature of her behaviour towards Clarice: she's being a total prick towards someone who's really only ever shown a generally positive and supporting attitude in a difficult situation.

Getting Frost to recognise that she's been behaving really badly is probably going to take up a lot of this story. And it'll be a difficult task, since there's so much deep-seated trauma here . . . but Clarice didn't really have any idea why Frost was behaving this way until now - she didn't even really understand that there was trauma involved at all, though she's not an idiot so I'm sure she had an inkling that something was going on. Now, though, Clarice is going to see just about everything Frost does through that lens, and (since she's a genuinely empathetic and caring person) almost every interaction they have is going to be coloured by Clarice's empathy and care rather than by the tinge of fear that's been underlying everything previously. And that's going to just make Frost so uncomfortable and freaked out . . . which will be expressed as defensive anger, of course, but which Clarice will be much better equipped to deal with now that she has a better understanding of what's underneath it.

Though it's definitely not going to be plain sailing - Frost's violent actions are probably going to end up escalating as things progress. Not targeted directly at Clarice, since I think they're well past the point where there's any risk of summary execution, but things like the desk beng smashed up and walls broken and so forth will probably happen more often, and particularly in response to Clarice expressing care and empathy towards Frost. And while Frost is clearly capable of very precise violence that damages exactly what she wants to damage and nothing else, the more she feels uncomfortable and freaked out by Clarice's caring responses, the more likely she is to lose that precise control - I can see Clarice being hurt accidentally by one of those outbursts of anger.

That sort of thing is often used as a way to progress a story, with the sudden realisation of what they've done breaking through the traumatised and violent character's defenses . . . but I really hope that's not how this goes, Clarice deserves better . . .
 
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I like to believe that because Frost is so used to people being afraid of her that she's simply unused to someone closing the gap so quickly with her. Even in combat her intimidating aura would keep her opponent a certain distance and be wary of her.
It's way beyond that - Frost is heavily traumatised, and that's colouring basically everything in her life right now. She's not just wary of someone getting close, she finds it impossible to believe that someone would actually care about her - there's a really deep well of self-loathing underneath just about everything she thinks and does. Combine that with the fact that she can't reveal who she actually is to anyone without risking everything (even her servants don't have any idea what she looks like!), and it's hardly a shock that she's so totally closed off.
When Clarice just grabbed her with no ill intent but firmly she was unprepared and had no defense against her. Simply put, Clarice had the power of Yuri at her side.
It was love! Love gave her . . . mighty arms to pull down her monstrous lover . . . and an extra foot of height . . . yeah . . .

But Frost isn't going to hurt Clarice, not at this point, certainly not deliberately. And threats that would once make Clarice tremble are now going to be seen by her as a reflection of Frost's fear and uncertainty, and that's going to make Clarice basically melt inside and want to give Frost a great big hug (or some other supporting, caring, empathic response). Which I am so looking forward to seeing . . .
 
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I forgot about this for a bit but damn. Peak peaked yet again.

Also i need to point her kamen rider like existence where shes born/infused with some monster like power that causes her to back off of people. Like the og KR and recently Gavv. Sasuga sometime

(Yes the kiss was sweet but everybody talked about that already)
 
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her hand was on the neck/front of frost's shirt pulling her down
I think what most are wondering is how a dainty girl like her can pull down a 2meter tall warrior woman made of muscles by the neck. Lol.

Not really complaining tho. The kiss is awesome and would like this to be a reoccurring thing that she does when they argue about love or when she calms her down.

Also, a like the somewhat sweet scene with Shion. :D
 
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Ok, with the confirmation that the father was the one in the suit, and given that only Frost has this white hair, while her dad looks nothing like her, I’ll keep on betting that the woman from the flashback is either her sister or mom.

I think it’d be interesting if it was an older sister and Frost actually was raised as a mere “spare”, but her sister who was either about to marry or was going to inherit the armour because the father having two daughters decided to not reveal the genders of neither of them, ended up dying.

What if the scene of Frost killing her father isn’t really her killing the woman? The idea of the armour corrupting your more and more is interesting, but what if it can also cause a terrible outcome if the person who puts it isn’t suited/trained for it? The sister who wanted to assume the mantle of Black Knight for some reason went berserk… And then the spare ended up being too compatible with the armour. That’s what lead the father, who expected everything from the eldest daughter, to assume Frost is a monster.

Or idk the eldest died of sickness and that fuelled the hatred he had towards Frost because she isn’t his favorite.

If it’s the mother it could just be a “he blames her for the mother dying because her health became worse after childbirth”. But WHAT IF the mom died at childbirth and Frost wasn’t the heir? That’d make the confrontation with the father even more tragic.

Killing the only family you have left because you have no choice. Either way the most important person to her was gone.
 
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she's clearly insanely traumatised and has experienced what seems to be severe parental abuse, she fights with her life at stake on a daily basis only to be met with scorn by her citizens, has lived her whole life believing she's incapable of being loved (and the one lady who did seem to care for her that we know of is gone), most likely has ptsd judging by the painful memories and her reaction to them. in this very chapter she has to put on a literal mask of coldness and anger to hide her moment of weakness as a coping mechanism

the pushback to someone who outwardly seems extremely suspicious (and literally does have ulterior motives) is completely understandable from her pov if you keep all these things in mind, not to mention the marriage was forced on her, and her territory she's been fighting tooth and nail for is at stake. all her general brashness and bluntness makes sense when you keep in mind she's had almost zero human interaction whatsoever, seemingly trash parenting and the fact that main fl is literally the only person in her life who doesn't fear or outright loathe her. she's one of the most believable tsunderes of all time i dont get your take
Cool motive.
Still being a prick.
Trauma doesn't excuse being a caustic asshole.
 

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