Apocalypse Bringer Mynoghra: World Conquest Starts with the Civilization of Ruin - Ch. 30 - The King of Ruin

[chendu]

Well congrats Takuto is pissed ..

Tanks for the food

 

[Kitosen]

thanks for the chapter!

 

[Enalis]

Thank you for the chapter

 

[XNFEdayo]

Nah, the final boss is Shotgun Roulette

And MMORPG, just a army of guys from Earth just appearing with cheat powers.

That could be interesting depending on the type of MMO:

Raid based like WoW would be a huge hinderance to both MC and the nations of this world.
Linear story based like FFXIV would benefit the nations but be a problem for MC.
Factional story based like SW:ToR would be a net neutral for all sides. MC getting Siths on his side would be peak.
PvP centered games like B&S and 2nd Life type games would also be a net neutral.

 

[Romulus992]

In this case the enemy is a GM of a AD&D style game, so he can just abuse storytelling rules in his favour. He doesn't care about fairness so he can just say whatever he wants and as long as he doesn't go against the rules, it will happen.

I remember once listening to a D&D story on youtube where a player who was caught by a mindflayer rolled a nat20 for intimidation when they should have been under mind control. And they argued that because they're under mind control, their intimidation should work on not only the mindflayer that attacked them, but all entities mentally linked to the mindflayer. And the DM allowed it by ruling that the intimidation caused a mental breakdown of whatever that wiped out all threats to the party. It was both a nonsensical argument and a dumb conclusion and yet, everyone found that to be amazing.
To me, it's the same as a party of adventurers rolling a perception check when arriving to a new town and after rolling a nat20, they're able to discover traces of a false hydra.

 

[xrogaan]

Oh I see, it wasn't instant death because in dnd rules this is not possible right ? Like, worst cast you get downed.

Depends. If you take enough damage to put your HP to 0, then you're downed. But if the damage is enough to reduce your HP in the negative equal to bloodied HP value. So, a character with 50HP would have 25 bloodied HP. They take 75 points of damage: insta-death.

In this case, the main character is not a TTRPG character. And his abilities do not follow the same rules.

 

[Dezza1]

This arc is the best in the novel so far

 

[hierof]

If all of those things were indeed fatal but he did not die, and his HQ was destroyed, I presume he can not be defeated unless all his units are dead before him. He can rebuild his nation as long as there is one unit to his name, and has enough resources.
Reminds me of some C&C skirmishes where I had to explore the whole map to find THAT ONE LAST UNIT.

this is like the rts Grey Goo where there is one mission you had to hunt down the goo but they moving all over the place. took me more than 1 hour just to clear this stage while all the resource points have dried out

 

[hierof]

I think that's just how he normally looks to himself and Atou.

It's everyone else who experiences the Void.

only to himself actually. even Atou sees him as a mass of black aura bundled together forming a vague figure of a person. this is shown in the earlier chapter

edit : chapter 8.3 to be exact

 

[Carn109]

The king of ruin is coming

 

[w1987g]

Everyone around the King of Ruin right now...

 

[KuroViLolitannia]

MYNOGHRA! MYNOGHRA! MYNOGHRA!

 

[Sempiternal]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[theKINGhimS3LF]

Nah, the Roguelike Deckbuilder game enemy will be his toughest challenge.

Honestly I think his worst matchup would be an Automation player.

Imagine him suddenly coming across someone playing Factorio in the middle of the desert who's had nothing but time since they all first dropped into the world and a copy of Excel.

 

[Kefrayba]

The wait time is agonizing. Especially when the official release schedule seems to be quite irregular.

Does anyone know which WN chapter to read after this manga chapter? And where can I find the LN?

 

[SunSun]

I don't know if I call it a cliche or a trend, but I do love it when people try to stop some "Oh great" world ending event. Yet due to thier actions end up causing it to happen.
Remember they're "pacifists"

It's a trope. Or several in this case.
"Self fulfilling prophecy"
"You cannot fight fate"

"Prophecy Twist" applies especially with the last line of the prophecy.

Also "Nice job breaking it, Hero!" from the perspective of the Saintess.

 

[SunSun]

It's TBS, a bit similiar to Civ, just with fantasy setting and many no sence game mechanics (like the next hero he would summon in next arc just terrible from game design point)

It's called 4x or grand strategy, that's where Civ, Stellaris, Sins of a Solar Empire and others fall under.

 

[Recyclex]

Time to rule-lawyer the fuck out of that D&D player/GM.

 

[Ratthakan]

I think saying the author "fell for it" isn't really fair. If anything, I think the author knows how bullshit that interpretation of the rules is, and this whole story has been about different genres trying to out-bullshit the other.

All the factions have been exploiting the rules of their game systems so far that we've seen in some way. The RPG forced an outcome due to a scripted cutscene. The isekai protagonist instantly defeated an enemy that shouldn't have been possible to do so, though I can't be sure if that's just because he's "overpowered" by definition or some other reason. And even Takuto has been exploiting his own rules by making guns for almost free just because of a technicality, and is now exploiting it further due to his inability to die (presumably linked to being an RTS player avatar).

Also remember that Atou did actually manage to break the brainwashing for a moment, and Erakino commented how it must have been a guaranteed success that didn't even need to be rolled for - so we can assume that some part of the rules of the tabletop game defines the limits of the results of a nat 20, but that they're using the most generous interpretation possible.

I feel like the reason why the isekai hero could kill the boss in one shot is cause he is actually the jrpg player which most isekai are based their story on so he was destined to kill the demon lord

 

[SunSun]

The author fell for the dumbest D&D misconception ever.

Because see, everyone, a fucking nat20 is not an autosuccess on a skill check, otherwise a lv1 player would say "I jump to the moon" and roll Athletics long enough... And one in 20 jumps would land him on the moon. Neither is a nat1 a skill check autofail.

And that use of Persuasion is literally impossible as per rules as written. What a shitty GM.

Rule 0 is what the DM says goes though. If the DM wants to homebrew a nat 20 as a critical success, no amount of player ruleslawyering is gonna change that.