Renge to Naruto! - Ch. 33 - I'm Sorry!

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How so? Genuinely curious.
Mass murdering villain? Yeah, kill 'em. They won't change. No chance for a redemption arc.

Single mom (who did manage to keep him fed and housed, even if she's emotionally abusive)? Eh... she could change, but not if she's dead. I'm hoping for a happy solution here.

Plus most folks only get one mother figure, and once they're gone, no one else can entirely fill that role.
 
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But it hopefully should tamper some of the bigger overreactions and give people at least a little perspective and sympathy.
Not going to lie, next chapter could give us the Mother's backstory and show the struggles she had to go through...and honestly it wouldn't make me think any different of her being terrible to son. Reason being? Whether the Mother knows it or not, she's adapt at manipulating and belittling her son when it suits her. She sees her son for the first time in probably years, and she doesn't ask him anything about how is he doing, or his health? Instead she asks for money and about his job. She even tries to play his sympathy by talking about her poor health, but the moment that didn't work, she immediately goes forward with insulting and belittling him until he gives in.
 
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This series does not deserve the Erotica or Sexual Violence tag at all. The “Sexual Violence” is heavily implied to be a lie to manipulate people by a known manipulator. Her accusing someone of Molesting her, and the very next panel being her setting someone up… you do the math.

Also erotica? Where? There is no nudity
 
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This series does not deserve the Erotica or Sexual Violence tag at all. The “Sexual Violence” is heavily implied to be a lie to manipulate people by a known manipulator. Her accusing someone of Molesting her, and the very next panel being her setting someone up… you do the math.

Also erotica? Where? There is no nudity
there is nudity. it appears whenever surgeon lady makes porn and then the porn is shown (ch 13 as a tamer example since I'm too lazy to remember which ones are more explicit).
 
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Absolutely, I still made it clear in my post that she is a shit parent.

But I don't know anything about her story about how she got pregnant, or what happened to the dad, or if she had any parents of her own. She seems to be raising him entirely alone with zero support system. And is probably massively overworked and depressed and has no one to talk to or help out.

Also, when she's talking down to him, she includes herself every single time. She always says things like "people like us". She obviously hates herself, and sees herself as a failure of a parent, and is just desperately trying to make sure that her son focused on living a stable life so that if he has children they aren't raised in a manner like she was forced to raise him in. Again, she's a terrible parent, and doing everything wrong, but we don't know where her heart is, or her history.

TBH this whole chapter feels like some kind of AITAH style trauma dump by the author, and as is often the case in those types of things, you only get a single limited perspective and then people tend to overreach and overreact to an extreme because they struggle with seeing any perspective except their own or that of the person talking to them directly in that moment.

I was just trying to bring some balance to the conversation and hopefully get some people to understand that sometimes the person you're shitting on and saying is terrible, has things going on in their life that if you had gone through as well you wouldn't have been any better of a person coming out the end than they were. That doesn't make them less terrible, and it doesn't mean the MC has any less right to protect himself from the situation. But it hopefully should tamper some of the bigger overreactions and give people at least a little perspective and sympathy.
Why fixate on the unknown rather than focus on what is known? It's almost as if you are trying to create some sort of out or justification for the individual's actions. And maybe by extension your own if you were, or have, acted in a similar manner. The fact of the matter is, you will, nor anyone else for that matter, ever know everything behind why someone does what they do. For fucks sakes, even the person in question doing the acts may not know. That doesn't excuse their actions and at best it may temper the responses people are having to the action but that's kinda it.

Beyond this, you are also ignoring one key element "some people just suck". Regardless of their upbringing, their history, their lives, some people can just be assholes. They don't need some sort of freudian excuse, some sort of tragic backstory, or anything of the sort. In the same manner people can be good for goodness sake, people can also be bad.

Another point, you are fixating to much on intent. Maybe your right, maybe in her own way, she is looking out for her son. And as you acknowledge doing it in a pretty shit way. But that becomes a "so what"? Sure her intent may not be to be an asshole but the end result is she is being an asshole.

And finally, no one said anything about being better than her. You can pass judgement, being better, being worse, or being the same. That doesn't matter. That last part almost reads as "you wouldn't be any better so don't pass judgement". Again, so what? Should I not, if I were ever to act in such a manner, be called out for it? What, should I be bared from judgement simply because I didn't judge someone else? Should the person I am affecting with my actions simply forgive me for they themselves are flawed too? Of course not. We all suck to some extent. We acknowledge our flaws, we work to be better, and hope to be the best we can be. We don't do that by safeguarding ourselves from being accountable for our actions.
 
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Ya'll act like it would be easy being a single mom raising a kid in Japan or something. Yeah, she's a shit parent, but my guess is she's probably so burned out from trying to raise a kid by herself, and depressed, and not getting any help, that I doubt any of you would be any better of a parent in her place either. Yeah it sucks for him, but it sucks for her too, and I blame the system, that puts people in that kind of depressing hopeless situation, not the individuals who are victims of that system.
This will blow you mind. Get ready.

This kind of thinking applies to literally every human on earth. Not just single moms. But the stark reality is no one cares about HOW you became angry or bitter, they just don’t (unless you’re a single mother apparently)
 
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there is nudity. it appears whenever surgeon lady makes porn and then the porn is shown (ch 13 as a tamer example since I'm too lazy to remember which ones are more explicit).
That would get a suggestive tag tho right? Erotica is basically soft core porn in terms of ratings. A few nipples can stay PG-13 for example.
 
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Dang these past chapters have been some depressing stuff lol

Honestly, not excusing her, but the mum is a single mother it seems, and she's probably quite depressed herself. At least it's not physical abuse, but emotional abuse is still pretty bad, not a good environment for a child to grow for sure. Still shit parenting.

I do hope they can reconcile somewhat.. but for now, Renge please heal him!
 
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He was doing so well… and now she’s destroying everything! Gah! I’m angry! è_é
 
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Backstory chapters are important to flesh out characters, plus, it will only make their comeback more satisfying.
If we only saw Renge and Naruto at the restaurant every chapter, sure it would be cute, but it would get a bit boring after a while...
don't really care about drama backstory if it makes the other bits worse, and it does. this is turning into something different than what was promised at the beginning. ecchi gyaru slice of life comedy now is psychological drama. "
but it would get a bit boring after a while...
that is the whole point of slice of life, to be "boring".
 
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As someone who grew up in a household similar to that, this is one of the most moronic things I've read. Being a single parent in no way excuses berating your child constantly, belittling them for simply having dreams, and refusing to acknowledge any achievements they actually make - that is not a parent, that's a fucking piece of shit. And trust me, the effects from being treated that way by your own family do not just go away. By acting like that, you're just fucking up your child mentally for life.
pretty much what i've been through...well, not with a single mom, but a stepfather who was like mc's mom and my own mother as a bystander and defender of his..
 
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This will blow you mind. Get ready.

This kind of thinking applies to literally every human on earth. Not just single moms. But the stark reality is no one cares about HOW you became angry or bitter, they just don’t (unless you’re a single mother apparently)

Not sure why that would blow my mind when its kind of my whole point.

She sucks, every post I've made makes that clear. He has every right to distance himself from her to protect himself, I thought I made that clear. people weirdly seem to think I'm forgiving her for her actions, for the third time, I'm not.

I'm speaking specifically to the people who are overreacting and literally saying they hope she dies, or that she's some evil monster. Shes a bad parent, shes not Satan.
 

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