Mangadex gets hit by DMCA - more than 25% of chapters gone | staff FAQ update

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On reddit, some people are writing that some titles have been put back in place. How true is this?
 
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So, until official clarification from the site staff, this should not be perceived as a sign of the situation being corrected?
I would assume so, I think a mod said they'll change so dmca'd series can't have uploads anymore too, either here or in the other discussion, but don't quote me on that lol

They did say what got dmca is not coming back, so it's not a "upload after dmca chapter it's a-ok", more that things are happening too fast and there's no big announcement so not all uploaders got the message

At least that's my understanding of the situation, I could be wrong
 
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I would assume so, I think a mod said they'll change so dmca'd series can't have uploads anymore too, either here or in the other discussion, but don't quote me on that lol

They did say what got dmca is not coming back, so it's not a "upload after dmca chapter it's a-ok", more that things are happening too fast and there's no big announcement so not all uploaders got the message

At least that's my understanding of the situation, I could be wrong
So, most likely all nuked titles are already lost for MD forever?
 
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So, most likely all nuked titles are already lost for MD forever?
Yup, which is why I mentioned multiple times one shots, pixiv, twitter, fanbox and so on, be it extras of a series or completely original stuff,  that is arguably at the real risk of being lost forever and becoming lost media, cause they're the most rare and niche stuff that can fall through the cracks straight into the shadow realm
 
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Je comprends pas la politique du Japon, c'est un moyen qu'on leur fasse de la pub pour leurs séries et ils censurent tout ça... (je parle des œuvres non licencié)
Yep. The English idiom would be 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' - not sure if that will translate well, but it's not something that seems to be actually benefiting them at all, at least on the surface.
 
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Yup, which is why I mentioned multiple times one shots, pixiv, twitter, fanbox and so on, be it extras of a series or completely original stuff,  that is arguably at the real risk of being lost forever and becoming lost media, cause they're the most rare and niche stuff that can fall through the cracks straight into the shadow realm
Recently, one of the Russian-speaking YouTubers released a video about how anti-consumer copyright protection provokes increased piracy and the emergence of lost media. I even wonder if he was somehow aware of this incident...
 
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Yep. The English idiom would be 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' - not sure if that will translate well, but it's not something that seems to be actually benefiting them at all, at least on the surface.
I can also recall the Russian (Slavic?) proverb "to throw out the bathwater with the baby in it". Fan scanlation helped many new titles become popular and get localized outside of Japan back in the day. Not to mention the essentially free promotion of these titles and their anime adaptations in the West. For example, every time you hear people praising a manga in a discussion about anime adaptation announcements, those people most likely either read it on MD or were able to get a licensed edition due to its popularity on MD.
 
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Yep. The English idiom would be 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' - not sure if that will translate well, but it's not something that seems to be actually benefiting them at all, at least on the surface.
The thing with Japanese executives is that the west never  really mattered, they know we buy some mangas, but it's not enougg for them to have incentive to change things.

Foe them us filthy gaijins just don't matter, they don't really care about western releases or any damage they might cause, it's all about piracy and IP rights, as long as they think they can stop piracy it's a victory that places like mangadex go down.

Really, it's part cultural issue and part old men being out of touch with how the internet works.
Recently, one of the Russian-speaking YouTubers released a video about how anti-consumer copyright protection provokes increased piracy and the emergence of lost media. I even wonder if he was somehow aware of this incident...
Unlikely he knew anything, he might have been talking cue to some incident in Russia, really, this incident isn't anything new, we went through this multiple times, main issue is that people don't learn and don't change how they host sites.
 
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Yep. The English idiom would be 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' - not sure if that will translate well, but it's not something that seems to be actually benefiting them at all, at least on the surface.
To continue on this and what I said before, it's why Nintento changed their Eula on Switch, they don't care about anything except stop piracy at any cost, even though putting in their Eula that they can brick your console  and by having a Nintendo account you accept you can't sue them, is quite literally a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Only placed I can see that maybe passing is Japan and US, and still a big maybe lol

Basically, this entire dmca incident is part about money / copyright, part about being against piracy out of principle, their attitude against piracy is a inherent cultural difference between them and us.
 
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Unlikely he knew anything, he might have been talking cue to some incident in Russia, really, this incident isn't anything new, we went through this multiple times, main issue is that people don't learn and don't change how they host sites.
In fact, the Russian government has already tried to enlist the support of pirates as a "take that" response to the related part of the sanctions. Piracy has always been so rampant here that in the early '00s you could even find bootleg chocolate bars with Haruhi Suzumiya characters or housewife detective novels with a Sailor Moon cosplayer as the main character. They even essentially lifted the permanent ban from country's largest torrent tracker. But they predictably decided that this would obviously be indirectly perceived as support for the Russian-Ukrainian war, so they officially refused to take advantage of the moment. Leaving aside "real politics", I think you can clearly see what absurd situations such a crude fight against piracy can lead to.

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In fact, the Russian government has already tried to enlist the support of pirates as a "take that" response to the related part of the sanctions. Piracy has always been so rampant here that in the early '00s you could even find bootleg chocolate bars with Haruhi Suzumiya characters or housewife detective novels with a Sailor Moon cosplayer as the main character. They even essentially lifted the permanent from country's largest torrent tracker. But they predictably decided that this would obviously be indirectly perceived as support for the Russian-Ukrainian war, so they officially refused to take advantage of the moment. Leaving aside "real politics", I think you can clearly see what absurd situations such a crude fight against piracy can lead to.

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I want that chocolate lol, here on my country piracy has also always been rampant, no idea how it is nowadays though lol

Politics always ruin everything one way or another.

Also since you mentioned Russia, I guess that's tangent to my point, like, western countries and Japan will probably try or make laws to stop manga piracy, but that only helps so far, manga piracy is just too global, what they're gonna do? Start blocking entire parts of the internet like how Russia and China do?

Honestly, I really don't see manga piracy stopping as long as peoppe use their fucking brains.

And I still want that chocolate :wtf:
 
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You're lucky, we have too much publisher in France... :kek:
If you're only talking about official releases of physical volumes in France (tbh I haven't kept up enough to know if we even got official simulpubs here), Sanctuary has a schedule for what's coming out in the next few months from most if not all publishers. I don't really like it because it's kind of a minefield with the ads, but I've created a list there so I can keep track of what I'm reading and know what to buy when I got the money to do so or even plan forward a bit, can't spend as much on manga as I did when I had a job. Much more useful than MAL or mangaupdates in that aspect.
 
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If you're only talking about official releases of physical volumes in France (tbh I haven't kept up enough to know if we even got official simulpubs here), Sanctuary has a schedule for what's coming out in the next few months from most if not all publishers. I don't really like it because it's kind of a minefield with the ads, but I've created a list there so I can keep track of what I'm reading and know what to buy when I got the money to do so or even plan forward a bit, can't spend as much on manga as I did when I had a job. Much more useful than MAL or mangaupdates in that aspect.
Thanks, I'm saving that.
 
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If you're only talking about official releases of physical volumes in France (tbh I haven't kept up enough to know if we even got official simulpubs here), Sanctuary has a schedule for what's coming out in the next few months from most if not all publishers. I don't really like it because it's kind of a minefield with the ads, but I've created a list there so I can keep track of what I'm reading and know what to buy when I got the money to do so or even plan forward a bit, can't spend as much on manga as I did when I had a job. Much more useful than MAL or mangaupdates in that aspect.
I personnaly use the website Nautiljon. It has a planning where you can see the future manga available for each month. You can also see if a manga is available in France, was, or is not, in the manga's page on the website. Imperfect, but it helps a lots.
 
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I want that chocolate lol, here on my country piracy has also always been rampant, no idea how it is nowadays though lol

Politics always ruin everything one way or another.

Also since you mentioned Russia, I guess that's tangent to my point, like, western countries and Japan will probably try or make laws to stop manga piracy, but that only helps so far, manga piracy is just too global, what they're gonna do? Start blocking entire parts of the internet like how Russia and China do?

Honestly, I really don't see manga piracy stopping as long as peoppe use their fucking brains.

And I still want that chocolate :wtf:
Well, at least China does it in an organized and methodical way. Russian blocking of sites is like trying to fix a broken nail with a chainsaw. The situation with YouTube, which forced me to use a VPN and watch ads in French, German and Spanish every 10 minutes, is a clear indicator of this. Well, at least the French ads for new games were pretty useful, but still.

Here we can only recall Valve's words that content piracy in the modern world is mainly the result of poor work with the consumer.
 

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