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Well, at least China does it in an organized and methodical way. Russian blocking of sites is like trying to fix a broken nail with a chainsaw. The situation with YouTube, which forced me to use a VPN and watch ads in French, German and Spanish every 10 minutes, is a clear indicator of this. Well, at least the French ads for new games were pretty useful, but still.

Here we can only recall Valve's words that content piracy in the modern world is mainly the result of poor work with the consumer.
The thing with China is that they always kept a very tight leash on their country and population, Russia meanwhile has no choice but to go overboard, especially with their corruption at all levels.

Can't wait for Putin to just give up or die and stop the invasion.

Unfortunately I don't see the Japanese treating their western consumer better, just look at now they treat the consumers and workers in Japan lol
 
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The thing with China is that they always kept a very tight leash on their country and population, Russia meanwhile has no choice but to go overboard, especially with their corruption at all levels.

Can't wait for Putin to just give up or die and stop the invasion.

Unfortunately I don't see the Japanese treating their western consumer better, just look at now they treat the consumers and workers in Japan lol
There is a joke here for a reason: "the severity of Russian laws is offset only by the non-obligation of their implementation." The laws are often so harsh that they are difficult to follow and may be ignored if you are not being cheeky. Well, at least if it's not politics, it's expected. Just recently I read a news story about how art with Pepe Clown was banned because of "LGBT colors", because apparently any rainbow is too gay. However, as the experience of Steam or even Crunchroll here shows, it is easy to persuade a consumer in Russia to lower the Jolly Roger if you create a friendly enough market.

I just don't get it. The anime market is bigger than ever, but some of the measures taken to protect it feel like the last hill.
 
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There is a joke here for a reason: "the severity of Russian laws is offset only by the non-obligation of their implementation." The laws are often so harsh that they are difficult to follow and may be ignored if you are not being cheeky. Well, at least if it's not politics, it's expected. Just recently I read a news story about how art with Pepe Clown was banned because of "LGBT colors", because apparently any rainbow is too gay. However, as the experience of Steam or even Crunchroll here shows, it is easy to persuade a consumer in Russia to lower the Jolly Roger if you create a friendly enough market.
Russian authorities like to have the illusion of control, I think that's why they make such absurd laws, they then crack some skulls to scare everyone else and it stops at that, message sent.

Reminds me of a joke that in US you can offend / make jokes about US president, and that in Russia you can also offend / make jokes about US president .
I just don't get it. The anime market is bigger than ever, but some of the measures taken to protect it feel like the last hill.
Well, publishers, executives and so on always hated piracy, but they know when to give up or make concessions, it seems Japanese and Koreans don't, there's no arguing, discussion or nuance, piracy is bad, they want it to stop, period.
I wanted to be happy that a number of "my" big titles weren't affected, but now I'm starting to get paranoid that threads here or on reddit might be reading and tracking what titles are being mentioned.
Now that mangadex bent the knee I'm honestly just waiting for a second dmca hit in a few weeks or months

I know I'll make a spreadsheet of all series I follow, organize them by genre orwhatever, and attach link of readers, just so I have backup of what I read
 
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blob:https://mangadex.org/d4171c0e-8ea0-4893-93fe-b18b00c48b17 People are expected to start considering safer options.

Russian authorities like to have the illusion of control, I think that's why they make such absurd laws, they then crack some skulls to scare everyone else and it stops at that, message sent.

Reminds me of a joke that in US you can offend / make jokes about US president, and that in Russia you can also offend / make jokes about US president .

Well, publishers, executives and so on always hated piracy, but they know when to give up or make concessions, it seems Japanese and Koreans don't, there's no arguing, discussion or nuance, piracy is bad, they want it to stop, period.

Now that mangadex bent the knee I'm honestly just waiting for a second dmca hit in a few weeks or months

I know I'll make a spreadsheet of all series I follow, organize them by genre orwhatever, and attach link of readers, just so I have backup of what I read
The current Russian government is made up of people of the "old school", so it is expected that their understanding of legal realities is still somewhere in the 60s or 70s. It is not surprising that Putin once accidentally called trans people "transformers".

By the way, what about the MangaPlus titles, etc.? They were published here officially and, as expected, no one touched them. It would probably be useful if other publishers tried this option.
 
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Start blocking entire parts of the internet like how Russia and China do?
by the way MD and youtube is blocked in russia. and I am in russia. and here. and on youtube. that is the extend of how well this would work...

The situation with YouTube, which forced me to use a VPN and watch ads in French, German and Spanish every 10 minutes, is a clear indicator of this. Well, at least the French ads for new games were pretty useful, but still.
mate, you need to research DNI software and hacks (no ads with them), prolly get a router with openWRT, could not say more for you know that reasons -__-
 
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by the way MD and youtube is blocked in russia. and I am in russia. and here. and on youtube. that is the extend of how well this would work...


mate, you need to research DNI software and hacks (no ads with them), prolly get a router with openWRT, could not say more for you know that reasons -__-
Not sure about MD, I'm without a VPN right now. But I've had to find solutions in the past, yes.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try it when I update my router. My current one is still in use since 2007 lmao.
 
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The current Russian government is made up of people of the "old school", so it is expected that their understanding of legal realities is still somewhere in the 60s or 70s. It is not surprising that Putin once accidentally called trans people "transformers".
I noticed, I'm pretty sure Putin for decades has been working to try bring USSR back, it's why they're assimilating everyone around them and invaded Ukrained.

I'm also pretty sure at some point Putin surrounded himself by so many yes man that I think he started drinking his own kool-aid lol, I think that's why we're in this situation, he unironically believe Ukrainians would embrace him and his soldiers, and that the west is decadent and wouldn't do anything about it lol

I hope at the end him and the othe4 old school idiots go away, Russia need better leaders in power, people not connected to the old ways.
By the way, what about the MangaPlus titles, etc.? They were published here officially and, as expected, no one touched them. It would probably be useful if other publishers tried this option.
I honestly have no fucking clue, never tried using them and I sure wouldn't pay even if I could lol, not even sure my country has access to it actually.
by the way MD and youtube is blocked in russia. and I am in russia. and here. and on youtube. that is the extend of how well this would work...
Not surprised lol, it's like I said, illusion of power, honestly? With how rampant corruption is I doubt they could do much even if they actually wanted to try.
 
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I wanted to be happy that a number of "my" big titles weren't affected, but now I'm starting to get paranoid that threads here or on reddit might be reading and tracking what titles are being mentioned.
nah, probably not, they will be in next big DMCA....
Russian authorities like to have the illusion of control, I think that's why they make such absurd laws, they then crack some skulls to scare everyone else and it stops at that, message sent.
you not entirely get this. in russia generally no one gives a shit about a lot. whole shabang with roskomnadzor doing "cenzorship" is mostly to cheer domestic kvas-patriots. they really happy government protect them and the children from gays and suicide on the internet.

and there is also money, cash, shekels. they are on the line. like shadowbanning youtube is 100500% about gazprom corp, which recently acquired a lot of russian video hosting platforms which are simply non-competitive with youtube. they want money. so no youtube. incidentally gazprom media chief is ex-chief honcho of roskomnadzor...
The current Russian government is made up of people of the "old school", so it is expected that their understanding of legal realities is still somewhere in the 60s or 70s. It is not surprising that Putin once accidentally called trans people "transformers".
I have a good idea of our ruling class, they sadly younger. some a lot so. and getting younger. and they are smart, yet not about internet and some hi-tech. and not going anywhere either. and clever about propaganda too, not like the soviet honchos were. they create narratives that masses gulp down gladly.
By the way, what about the MangaPlus titles, etc.? They were published here officially and, as expected, no one touched them. It would probably be useful if other publishers tried this option.
other publishers care very little or just give you first couple of chapters to read. MangaPlus are kinda weird like that what they give access to latest issues.
 
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Not sure about MD, I'm without a VPN right now. But I've had to find solutions in the past, yes.
I am so automated this days what I have no clue how much and where I use VPN or not xD MD was not available for long time though. cause of lolis and yaoi. not sure what changed. would be funny if some of the nuked titles disappearing made cite available xD
 
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you not entirely get this. in russia generally none gives a shit about a lot. whole shabang with roskomnadzor doing "cenzorship" is mostly to cheer domestic kvas-patriots. they really happy government protect them and the children from gays and suicide on the internet.
To be fair rainbows are pretty dangerous, I remember when I saw one from too close and had to control gay urges, as for suicide, well mangadex situation certainly making me consider it

le gasp
Maybe russian government has a point! :wtf:
and there is also money, cash, shekels. they are on the line. like shadowbanning youtube is 100500% about gazprom corp, which recently acquired a lot of russian video hosting platforms which are simply non-competitive with youtube. they want money. so no youtube. incidentally gazprom media chief is ex-chief honcho of roskomnadzor...
Capitalism Ho!
Money is always involved somehow :v
I have a good idea of our ruling class, they sadly younger. some a lot so. and getting younger. and they are smart, yet not about internet and some hi-tech. and not going anywhere either. and clever about propaganda too, not like the soviet honchos were. they create narratives that masses gulp down gladly.
This reminds me of revolutions, and how many times the new people becomes as bad or worse as previous rulers, thanks to rampant corruption, exploitation and so on, I can see some young russians liking the system as it is as long as they can get a piece of the pie, it's unfortunate really

Maybe we all should drink some vodka and forget out problems comrade @volodyuka and @SuperOniichan :aquadrink:
 
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Capitalism Ho!
I can hear a certain brown hair loli rubbing her hands together every time I see you write this..
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To be fair rainbows are pretty dangerous
jokes aside but as LGBT person living in russia and being well in tune with culture, I say the biggest threat to LGBT were the western educated LGBT activists who stir the shit what should've been left alone. russia was a lot more tolerant before they started activism that was counter productive in russian cultural field. kinda fucked a lot more things for queers than achieved.
Capitalism Ho!
Money is always involved somehow :v
yup
I can see some young russians liking the system as it is as long as they can get a piece of the pie, it's unfortunate really
it's not that. it's more like... russia feel itself good being capitalist right now. things still are ok, they not get worse (like in US for example, I am amazed with how broken their country is and they still did not revolt) for a long time. a lot of people live a happy lives even with, ahem, current events. like, do not believe a lot said of russia in western news. things not as bad. like, fuck did not wanted to say anything about it, the war russia does is won. it was won in the morning of 22 february 2022. RN all is about how much russia will get, and russia kinda does not want more than it's already has. anyway, fuck it, will not talk about it, it all depressing haunting shit.

anyway, RN in a current capitalist paradigm of copyright law, well this will be reality. for a long time. things will even go worse with predatory apps and AIs fighting pirated content. fuck it's more depressing shit.

Maybe we all should drink some vodka and forget out problems comrade @volodyuka and @SuperOniichan :aquadrink:
do not recommend, shit is wile. good rum is all that you need on high seas :huh:
 
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jokes aside but as LGBT person living in russia and being well in tune with culture, I say the biggest threat to LGBT were the western educated LGBT activists who stir the shit what should've been left alone. russia was a lot more tolerant before they started activism that was counter productive in russian cultural field. kinda fucked a lot more things for queers than achieved.
I would argue it's the opposite, it's the uneducated ignorant self-righteous ones that stir problems and are vocal as fuck, it's like how for example, at some point feminism was about equality, but for years more often than not anyone you see calling themselves a feminist is more like "feminist" for various reasons

Though I do think that even ignoring that at some point Russia and China simply  have to be against certain western values out of principle, due to politics and such, so I'm not sure things would have gone much different in the long run
yup

it's not that. it's more like... russia feel itself good being capitalist right now. things still are ok, they not get worse (like in US for example, I am amazed with how broken their country is and they still did not revolt) for a long time. a lot of people live a happy lives even with, ahem, current events. like, do not believe a lot said of russia in western news. things not as bad. like, fuck did not wanted to say anything about it, the war russia does is won. it was won in the morning of 22 february 2022. RN all is about how much russia will get, and russia kinda does not want more than it's already has. anyway, fuck it, will not talk about it, it all depressing haunting shit.
That sounds lile a pretty bleak place :v, I find funny that some think Russia is winning, like, it's 3 fucking years still fighting a country that is a fraction of their size, how the fuck is that winning?

I guess people have no choice but to tell themselves things are good and will get better, after all if they say otherwise and make noise the police might come to frank some skulls :v
anyway, RN in a current capitalist paradigm of copyright law, well this will be reality. for a long time. things will even go worse with predatory apps and AIs fighting pirated content. fuck it's more depressing shit.
Yup, things don't look like will get better in a while, and it's a global issue with right wing of the rise, or at least was cause right now it's mostly US really getting fucked since Mango Mussolini is in power again
do not recommend, shit is wile. good rum is all that you need on high seas :huh:
Fair enough, rum it is :aquadrink:
 
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@volodyuka and @T-sama I highly discourage you to continue the topic about country politics, also @SuperOniichan, is understable how the topic started with T-sama insisting about ignoring DMCA since days ago, but really, make a pause about that specific aspect of the conversation
I don't remember if I outright said mangadex should ignore the dmca, but I did question how they put themselves into a situation where they have to comply with it

As for what you requested that's fair, I'll cut the politics here since this isn't the place
 
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@volodyuka and @T-sama I highly discourage you to continue the topic about country politics, also @SuperOniichan, is understable how the topic started with T-sama insisting about ignoring DMCA since days ago, but really, make a pause about that specific aspect of the conversation
I am with you 100% things gone into some weird direction even I don't want to be
 

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