Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 41 - Everything, Falling Apart

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We should be blaming Yami for this right? If Yami just let Yuu go it would have been smooth sailing for everyone.

Yuu fully got roped into this. Dude was (presumably) fine just being friends with his ghostin' ex.
Yami's fault are evident for everyone to see, she's bad to comical levels. I don't know why are you deflecting to her when we are talking about Yuu.

And letting her go is not the problem, I specifically said what the spark of clusterfuck was, Yuu only thinking about himself.
 
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Hikari needs to ditch those snake-ass trashy losers and get with an upstanding, wholesome and loyal boy (me)
Sorry, she's taken and you have nothing on him

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Hikari over yami, lmao yami what kind of mindset is that, fking whore, please dont do something dirty to my hikari 😔😔
 
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One wrong party doesn't automatically mean another party has to be in the right. If you just let go of a good relationship after the other person straight up disappears then you couldn't have cared much about it if you didn't put any effort into at least finding out why or if they're okay, and her being a crazy bitch doesn't invalidate her anger at his general casualness and dismissiveness over it all. Yuu getting assaulted doesn't suddenly erase the other shit he's done and make him innocent

There was no closure between them. Being friends is one thing but he was basically brushing it all under the rug because it was convenient for him now that he was going to go confess to Hikari.
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Yeah no. Dude did check. Still is (presumably) fine with being friends with her.
 
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I don't know why are you deflecting to her when we are talking about Yuu.
Simple.

If I started a problem and forced you to be included into it.

How much are you in fault for not fixing the problem I've created?

Should you be in charged of fixing the problem I've created?
 
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I mean… but how would that even play out?
I don't expect Maruto to go this route, but the two I can think of off the top of my head go something like:

The nihilist toxic nobody learned anything path:
He's back to a similar circumstance as the first go around: He took a chance to get with Hikari with the confession and it didn't work out well, Aya is throwing herself at him, and Hikari seems to be tacitly condoning, if not encouraging, it. So Yuu again thinks it's hopeless with Hikari and takes the kinda cowardly route of trying again with Aya 'cause after all he thinks he was starting to fall for Aya and with Hikari's help they seem to be on the path to clearing the air about their communication issues that crashed their first ship. I also think this is the sorta thing that's doomed to fail b/c Hikari can't keep them from falling back into their bad patterns.

The uno reverse path:
He's confusing loving Hikari as a friend with being in love with her, because he's been in love w/ Hikari for so long that he wouldn't recognize that he fell out of love. He confessed to Hikari after meeting w/ Aya to lock in the safe stable comfortable relationship instead of risking the one he now really wants.
 
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Was he suppose to figure out that was on her mind and know that she saw them kissing?

Personally I think his faults are only two one being easily allowing himself to get with another girl if he ever hoped to get with Hikari down the line.

Second being he should of known with how erratic Yami was that she would mess up their relationship which she did so to me that was the only rational reason for him to preemptively let her know things.
No it doesn't matter what he believes Hikari thinks whatsoever, throughout the dance she was silent and distant, totally the contrary of what she usually is. If he just asked her what happened to her, he should have avoided this situation turning so bad.

Is not that he is a pushover and dense, which yeah but that's not that bad in itself, but it looks he just thinks of himself, he went straight to confess when all the alarms were going off. That's beyond being dense, I can't believe anyone in that situation would not realize what's going on.

People give shit to Yuu for not being on point like a shoujo crush of the fmc and I think a lot of people were very hard on him for no real reason because until that point it only hurted himself, but this is not one of those situations. He fucked up and hurted everyone for selfish reasons.
 
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Ch 30 pg 7

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Yeah no. Dude did check. Still is (presumably) fine with being friends with her.
I can see your argument but I genuinely would not count that as checking and I'm not trying to be pedantic or anything. He's aware that she could not be replying for any reason but he's also fully aware of who she is as a person which is why at the end he says she should contact him at any point, even if not today and takes a step back, but then she blocks him. At this point I'd consider it ghosting on her end and equally I would say he is at fault for then leaving things as they are because this is the point where he should be making the effort to reach out and check on her. The crux here is that his actions show that he does not care that much about her. so of course he's fine with being friends with her; it makes no difference to him whether or not she's around because he finally has his chance with Hikari and that's the main thing on his mind.

Obviously we don't have a Yuu POV so who knows what he's actually thinking, but that sort of naivety and self centeredness he has comes across in both Yami and Hikari POVs enough to take it at face value.
 
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I don't expect Maruto to go this route, but the two I can think of off the top of my head go something like:

The nihilist toxic nobody learned anything path:
He's back to a similar circumstance as the first go around: He took a chance to get with Hikari with the confession and it didn't work out well, Aya is throwing herself at him, and Hikari seems to be tacitly condoning, if not encouraging, it. So Yuu again thinks it's hopeless with Hikari and takes the kinda cowardly route of trying again with Aya 'cause after all he thinks he was starting to fall for Aya and with Hikari's help they seem to be on the path to clearing the air about their communication issues that crashed their first ship. I also think this is the sorta thing that's doomed to fail b/c Hikari can't keep them from falling back into their bad patterns.

The uno reverse path:
He's confusing loving Hikari as a friend with being in love with her, because he's been in love w/ Hikari for so long that he wouldn't recognize that he fell out of love. He confessed to Hikari after meeting w/ Aya to lock in the safe stable comfortable relationship instead of risking the one he now really wants.
Yeah, I hope Maruto doesn’t go down these routes.
 
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Simple.

If I started a problem and forced you to be included into it.

How much are you in fault for not fixing the problem I've created?

Should you be in charged of fixing the problem I've created?
The the thing is you are assuming Yuu ignoring Hikari is not a problem when it is. This thing wouldn't have exploded if he stepped back and didn't rush into confession when everyone would see Hikari at that moment and think "something is wrong, she is not her usual self, let's ask her what happened to her". This and what @GennArc pointed about Hikari telling Aya what she needed to hear from Yuu is why I think he only thinks for himself.

Everyone knows this situation is compounded of everyone's errors, and sure, Aya is the worst part of this and that's why I don't really spend much time discussing her anymore because she is setup to be a woe is me shitty person. But Yuu's action is what sparked the garbage mound this and that's why I don't agree with people exculpating him of everything gone wrong here. Is he as bad as Yami? I don't think so, but he is not innocent either.
 
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But Yuu's action is what sparked the garbage mound this and that's why I don't agree with people exculpating him of everything gone wrong here.
Are seriously telling that If Yami never kissed Yuu the situation would have been the same?

And by blaming Yuu here.
Simple.

If I started a problem and forced you to be included into it.

How much are you in fault for not fixing the problem I've created?

Should you be in charged of fixing the problem I've created?
You are saying that have you a degree of fault for not fixing the problem I've created.
 
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So Yuu is at fault for not ignoring the clear message of "leave me alone"?
In a case where it's supposed to be someone you genuinely care about that you know is going through rough stuff and the 'clear message' is just getting blocked out of the blue? you Absolutely do more than just sit on your ass and say you tried. (I could be misremembering this and that's on me if I am but didn't Yami at one point imply that she wouldn't mind dying or something on that level early on when she was with him?)

That aside, the meeting is just as important to the context. The entire conversation is him having an unexpected conversation with her where he's clearly just going through the motions of what he thinks he should say so he can get to Hikari. Yami is a crazy bitch but most of her actions are basically defensive and cries for help. He can either help or shut it down but brushing it off the way he did repeatedly is the worst action he could've taken and deserving of criticism
 

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