Yarikonda Otome Game no Akuyaku Mob desu ga, Danzai wa Iya nanode Mattou ni Ikimasu - Vol. 4 Ch. 16

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Crush his spirit? Change his heart!? Did someone call for the Phantom Thieves of Hearts!!??

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Well at the very least, she knows his actual name. In some other series, the "boy" she met would have given her a fake name, and then this wedding meeting would be canceled and she'd be none the wiser and never meet him. But if she knows his name, and her family knows the name of the marriage candidate, it seems like it's pretty inevitable that she'll find out at some point.
 
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Yeah i don't get how the "we want a royal candidate" works when you sit down for other lower status engagements already? What is the aim? Show off the princess in these gatherings and shoot for a "notice me senpai" for the royal family? What if the marquis family accepts the engagement? You gonna reject them till an offer from royal family appears?
The Dark Elves in general seem, arrogant and way out of their depth. Remember they required the Magnolia Empire to save their asses, they're a much smaller, weaker, and less developed nation. They're effectively a vassal state under the protection of the Magnolia Empire who would get torn apart by other nations without them.

Yet they're acting as if they're the superior nation, hold all the power, looking down on the Magnolia Empire and humans, calling them "hicks" and similar things and even scheming some delusions about taking over the Magnolia Empire themselves. They're ungrateful, unreliable, traitorous and full of delusions.
 
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Well at the very least, she knows his actual name. In some other series, the "boy" she met would have given her a fake name, and then this wedding meeting would be canceled and she'd be none the wiser and never meet him. But if she knows his name, and her family knows the name of the marriage candidate, it seems like it's pretty inevitable that she'll find out at some point.
When they first met both of them forgot to ask for the other's name.
 
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When they first met both of them forgot to ask for the other's name.
Yeah, but her attendant tells her in this chapter. Page 7, she asks her attendant if she's heard anything more about "that boy" and she tells her his name. It's possible that they're talking about her marriage candidate there, but they've previously talked about her encounter with ridd as "that boy" already, and her expression looking out the window implies she's thinking of the one she dreams of, not just her random marriage candidate. So, she should know the boy she met is "ridd baldia" now, if that's the case.
 
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Can't say I dislike Royal's menu, as it's the only one I have played. But, the original has a minimalist look that just slaps.
Royal is great. Been really enjoying it. It’s… almost TOO much at points though. Not a bad thing? Just makes it harder to get through and see all the content I suppose. But not a bad thing. But I do think the original P5 was a little more focused.
 
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  • prince's name is Racist
  • refuses to accept outsiders
  • "he used to thought of the country first"
  • "he appears to be mentally unstable"
  • "I want you to crush his spirit"
Woah author, laying it a bit too thick there.
 
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Who are they hoping to marry into the imperial family? It seems too weird they would hope that their princess Fara first gets engaged to a marquis's son, but then that engagement would be "upgraded" to an imperial prince. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. In the first place, the imperial family would be the one deciding if it's okay or not, so Renarute could maybe offer such a union, but they would still be in a weaker position. The Magnolia imperial family will marry their princes and princesses for maximum profit, obviously. Why would they snatch a fiancée from one of their own nobles? That seems pretty strange, even if they could do it. If they wanted that particular girl, they could have already done it, before the marquis family entered the picture at all.
it doesn't make sense if the intention were to keep the status quo. but, if the intention were to break the "alliance", then it completely make sense. by making an "impossible" demand, it would ends in a stalemate, forcing both sides to enter another negotiation round, with the hope of getting a more favorable outcome (breaking the alliance will be the best outcome, but another outcome that elevate the dark elves country from more than just a vassal state would also a desirable outcome)
 
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it doesn't make sense if the intention were to keep the status quo. but, if the intention were to break the "alliance", then it completely make sense. by making an "impossible" demand, it would ends in a stalemate, forcing both sides to enter another negotiation round, with the hope of getting a more favorable outcome (breaking the alliance will be the best outcome, but another outcome that elevate the dark elves country from more than just a vassal state would also a desirable outcome)
Renarute wants the marriage much more than Magnolia. That's why Renature is, seemingly, willing to accept a marriage between their princess and a son of a marquis. They hoped for a royal marriage, but clearly Magnolia's imperial family wasn't interested. Probably Renarute did hope to elevate their position through a royal marriage, but it didn't lead anywhere. Having the princess marry a marguis's son, not even a duke's son (dukes tend to be blood related to the king/emperor), means the empire doesn't give any extra face to Renarute. Magnolia is basically saying that a marguis from the empire is good enough for a princess from Renarute. If you want to interpret this in the worst possible way, that is. But of course you could also just say it strenghtens the alliance a little bit, even if not as much as a royal marriage.

Renarute could break the alliance just by declaring it broken. But they are in the subservient position, so who knows what the consequences would be. Magnolia might even consider it a rebellion. Perhaps they still need Magnolia's protection.
 
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Renarute wants the marriage much more than Magnolia. That's why Renature is, seemingly, willing to accept a marriage between their princess and a son of a marquis. They hoped for a royal marriage, but clearly Magnolia's imperial family wasn't interested. Probably Renarute did hope to elevate their position through a royal marriage, but it didn't lead anywhere. Having the princess marry a marguis's son, not even a duke's son (dukes tend to be blood related to the king/emperor), means the empire doesn't give any extra face to Renarute. Magnolia is basically saying that a marguis from the empire is good enough for a princess from Renarute. If you want to interpret this in the worst possible way, that is. But of course you could also just say it strenghtens the alliance a little bit, even if not as much as a royal marriage.

Renarute could break the alliance just by declaring it broken. But they are in the subservient position, so who knows what the consequences would be. Magnolia might even consider it a rebellion. Perhaps they still need Magnolia's protection.

In Magnolia, a Marquis is equal or even superior to a Duke because they are allowed actual Knight Orders and independent/direct action. Strangely enough even Dukes in Magnolia are only allowed small detachments for personal security. The requirements for the marriage partner were Imperial Royal or equivalent nobility. This means Duke, Margrave (nominally next highest rank after Duke), and Marquis (border/frontier lord).

Yes both Marquis and Margrave are used because JP ranks don't translate nicely to Western ranks. One is used as a rank higher than Count but lower than Duke but does not guard the border. The other actually guards the border. Will be interesting to see how this group TLs this.
 
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