Daredemo Dakeru Kimi ga Suki - Ch. 92 - Knock- Knock

[DABOT]

i wonder why th am i still reading ts

 

[koifall]

Every time he bring back agawa she breaks gotou somehow

Yea, but Gotou is inching closer and closer towards Agawa's heart as the story progresses (even if Gotou currently feels utterly defeated and Agawa isn't completely aware of and/or honest about her feelings). So tragic it tugs at my heartstrings lol

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Anyway, here's a score card for Daredemo's heroines.

Having a nice visual like this makes me wonder what everyone's personal heroine rankings are.

My heroine rankings:

1. Agawa
2. Shigemi
3. Shiina
(3.5.) Yotsuya sensei (meme pick)
4. Akito
5. Kiyomi

Spoiler: Thoughts on the heroines

1. Agawa: I'm a sucker for wholesome gyaru characters and she's the greatest of them all imo. Girl just needs some non-sexual love in her life, but she's too sexy for her own good. What happened to her that made her the tragic heroine she is today? I'm still so eager to find out. Agawa is peak waifu for me, even outside of erotica. She's my absolute #1.

2. Shigemi: There's something so attractive about a sensitive and perceptive girl who cuts through the bullshit and exposes you for who you really are (in Gotou's case, a failed playboy with a hopeless dick who still only loves Agawa). Fucks Gotou out of pity (though to Shigemi's surprise, she also enjoyed it), and promptly dumps him just as he was about to verbalize how fucked up he is. What a class act.

3. Shiina: The most confident, intelligent and stable heroine. She's a toxic (yet wholesome?) temptress who fucks and cucks solely for the love of the game (unlike our currently unfulfilled Agawa). Although she's not a great role model for Agawa (or anybody) or a good influence to Gotou (debatable), I admire her unabashed sluttiness, which contrasts nicely with her refined and classy persona.

(3.5.) Yotsuya sensei: A grumpy milf who sexually satisfies Inukai after dragging him away from the library (Ch.11 bonus page). The contrast between her serious teacher act and implied sexual prowess (Inukai considers visiting the counseling office for sexual relief in Ch.17's bonus page) has me imagining things lol

4. Akito: I like her a lot, but generally find pure and innocent characters a bit boring (or at least, not attractive). An amazing contrast to the rest of the horny cast. Even though she gave Inukai a handjob and has slept with Gotou multiple times, she still feels very pure and wholesome cuz she's quite faithful to her one-sided love for Gotou. An absolute sweetheart who deserves a happy ending.

5. Kiyomi: She's anxious, sweet and surprisingly seductive. But she's had so little characterization so far that it's hard to treat her with the same level of respect as the 1st four heroines. I still like her, but much less than the other four.

 

[Heika]

Kid. Gouto is a kid.

I can't even begin to describe how much that doesn't matter, both to me and to the laws of most countries, including Japan.

 

[Michika]

I can't even begin to describe how much that doesn't matter, both to me and to the laws of most countries, including Japan.

There is something called morality that carries more weight than the law in many countries.

 

[FriskyGIRLBOSS]

It just hit me...

The name of this series, "I Like You Who Can Have Sex With Anyone", maybe it wasn't meant for Agawa... But Gotou all along... I mean, it seems like it at this point with all of this. He really did become someone that he wasn't before...

Well, duh, a lustful, sex hungry, romantic indept, pervert.

 

[box2024]

Yea, but Gotou is inching closer and closer towards Agawa's heart as the story progresses (even if Gotou currently feels utterly defeated and Agawa isn't completely aware of and/or honest about her feelings). So tragic it tugs at my heartstrings lol


Having a nice visual like this makes me wonder what everyone's personal heroine rankings are. Here's mine:

Spoiler: My Heroine Rankings + Thoughts

1. Agawa: I'm a sucker for wholesome gyaru characters and she's the greatest of them all imo. Girl just needs some non-sexual love in her life, but she's too sexy for her own good. What happened to her that made her the tragic heroine she is today? I'm still so eager to find out. Agawa is peak waifu for me, even outside of erotica. She's my absolute #1.

2. Shigemi: There's something so attractive about a sensitive and perceptive girl who cuts through the bullshit and exposes you for who you really are (in Gotou's case, a failed playboy with a hopeless dick who still only loves Agawa). Fucks Gotou out of pity (though to Shigemi's surprise, she also enjoyed it), and promptly dumps him just as he was about to verbalize how fucked up he is. What a class act.

3. Shiina: The most confident, intelligent and stable heroine. She's a toxic (yet wholesome?) temptress who fucks and cucks solely for the love of the game (unlike our currently unfulfilled Agawa). Although she's not a great role model for Agawa (or anybody) or a good influence to Gotou (debatable), I admire her unabashed sluttiness, which contrasts nicely with her refined and classy persona.

(3.5.) Yotsuya Sensei: A grumpy milf who sexually satisfies Inukai after dragging him away from the library (Ch.11 bonus page). The contrast between her serious teacher act and implied sexual prowess (Inukai considers visiting the counseling office for sexual relief in Ch.17's bonus page) has me imagining things lol

4. Akito: I like her a lot, but generally find pure and innocent characters a bit boring (or at least, not attractive). An amazing contrast to the rest of the horny cast. Even though she gave Inukai a handjob and has slept with Gotou multiple times, she still feels very pure and wholesome cuz she's quite faithful to her one-sided love for Gotou. An absolute sweetheart who deserves a happy ending.

5. Kiyomi: She's anxious, sweet and surprisingly seductive. But she's had so little characterization so far that it's hard to treat her with the same level of respect as the 1st four heroines. I still like her, but much less than the other four.

But how there has been no interaction between the two for how many chapters now? The only way I see this going forward is if gotou and the teacher get caught it causes a big scandal he gets pulled out of school and agawa meets him because she feels guilty that she was his start down this path and it ends from there.

 

[SmugAnimeEnjoyer]

Netenyahu, give him ED again.

 

[Roadwarior2]

There is something called morality that carries more weight than the law in many countries.

Extremely flimsy morality based upon one modern legal contrivance that most of the world doesn’t even adhere to, and not without a line of asterisks.
Seriously, shut the fuck up and piss off already, you whiny tourist. If you actually cared about sexual morality as much you’re pretending to be, you wouldn’t be here period, let alone translate the things you’ve worked on.

 

[Michika]

Seriously, shut the fuck up and piss off already, you whiny tourist.

"Oh no, I didn't manage to convince him with my Twitter excuse, I need to think of something quickly"
I've been here since chapter 1 when this started being translated. I was here when the mangaka changed an entire arc because he got mad, and now I'm openly against on how the manga is going nowhere, adding a random woman just to show off huge breasts.

 

[Roadwarior2]

"Oh no, I didn't manage to convince him with my Twitter excuse, I need to think of something quickly"
I've been here since chapter 1 when this started being translated. I was here when the mangaka changed an entire arc because he got mad, and now I'm openly against on how the manga is going nowhere, adding a random woman just to show off huge breasts.

While I think you’re as disingenuous as anyone else that spergs out about this manga every single fucking chapter, if that is what you think, then why the fuck are you even still here then you obnoxious fag?
Are you just a masochist that likes reading things that gravely upsets him? How unhinged.

 

[koifall]

But how there has been no interaction between the two for how many chapters now? The only way I see this going forward is if gotou and the teacher get caught it causes a big scandal he gets pulled out of school and agawa meets him because she feels guilty that she was his start down this path and it ends from there.

It's true there hasn't been any direct interactions between Gotou and Agawa for a while (since Agawa told Gotou to "forget it" in Ch.75), but Gotou has had Agawa on his mind as recently as Ch.89 (the start of the current arc).

The main story progresses every time Gotou and Agawa interact, and so, I see this current arc as an interlude (interlewd?) before things pick up again. Reminds me of harem manga like Ichigo 100% with side stories/filler (ex. Kozue, a side character who was never a serious love interest) to stretch out the manga length and also to add a bit of character development/plot progression. I don't currently agree with Takeda Super's writing of this arc (plotwise it feels unnecessary), but from a manga serialization (and a horny) standpoint, it makes sense to milk this series for as long as possible.

I'm mainly looking forward to the next time Gotou and Agawa interact again. I can definitely see your scenario being possible as the setup, but I don't think the story will just "end from there". Gotou is still a mental wreck (as seen by his current descent with Kiyomi), and Agawa still hasn't resolved her lack of fulfillment she's currently going through sleeping with her sex friends (a big deal for a gyaru who claims she loves sex).

Instead, their eventual meeting should challenge both Gotou and Agawa to reflect on what they want from each other. Whether they will have enough self-awareness and honesty to confront their feelings is another matter entirely, as this type of story ends the moment both characters become mature enough to embrace these feelings.

Even if this story has more filler chapters in the future (and it probably will), Takeda Super still has more fuel in the tank to keep the main story going for quite a bit longer. We still haven't explored Agawa's backstory or her other significant sex friends aside from Inukai. For example, Ch.1 p.15 and Ch.15 p.15 feature one of Agawa's sex friends in the biggest panel compared to her other sex friends (maybe he's Agawa's middle school crush who Shiina fucked in Ch.31 p.7's threesome flashback?). There's also Agawa's own childhood friend, Takayama Yuki, who seems to like her more than just sex friends but isn't honest with himself (he fails to convince her to only sleep with him in Ch.4). If this is the case, there's an interesting contrast between him and who Gotou could eventually become: a man who can honestly express his love for Agawa and go the distance for her.

TLDR: I'm just riding this current arc out like some other readers lol

 

[Michika]

While I think you’re as disingenuous as anyone else that spergs out about this manga every single fucking chapter, if that is what you think, then why the fuck are you even still here then you obnoxious fag?

Slurs without provocation? From here you reek of Twitter user.

Are you just a masochist that likes reading things that gravely upsets him? How unhinged.

And I'm here because I'm still reading the manga because I didn't read more than 90 chapters to abandon it because of 3 shitty chapters. If that's enough for you to abandon a manga, it just means a lack of commitment and a great need for attention.

 

[koifall]

And I'm here because I'm still reading the manga because I didn't read more than 90 chapters to abandon it because of 3 shitty chapters.

A fellow comrade! I feel so validated.

 

[Roadwarior2]

Slurs without provocation? From here you reek of Twitter user.

Without provocation? You’ve been an annoying prick the whole thread, but I guess your head’s too far up your own ass to notice that.

And I'm here because I'm still reading the manga because I didn't read more than 90 chapters to abandon it because of 3 shitty chapters. If that's enough for you to abandon a manga, it just means a lack of commitment and a great need for attention.

That’s called the sunk cost fallacy, and it’s the definition of insanity, especially since you don’t sound like you’ve particularly enjoyed this manga even beforehand. Not that I have any right to bash you too hard for that since I recently marathoned both some piece of shit Manhwa called Brave New World and that Sasha-chan manga despite strongly disliking both. That Brave New World one especially I felt that I should be committed to a psychiatric hospital after subjecting myself to over 200 chapters of that. Christ.

 

[CiC700]

I recently marathoned both some piece of shit Manhwa called Brave New World and that Sasha-chan manga despite strongly disliking both.

Sasha's not that bad lol, it somewhat gives me similar vibes to daredemo's early chapters prior to Shiina's introduction.

Spoiler: Yap about rereading the manga

With that being said, I could kind of relate to the sentiment of some of the guys hating on the manga lately which pushed me to go ahead and reread the manga from chap 1 since it had been 2 years since then and I stopped following the manga after catching up, picking it back during the whole summer school arc. After reading everything in one sitting I actually grew to like the story alot more, with the beginning all the way up to Shiina's introduction definitely being the peak for me.

Even Akito's character and arc was actually alot better than I remembered it being (I've seen the light @Anonymouslylewd), with me initially hating on her character and arc but I think its because I read the retconned threesome which had Gotou swear loyalty to Agawa which made him seen alot more hypocritical. Speaking of the retconned threesome, although I did like how the threesome itself was handled originally and am still interested to see how the loyal Gotou would have ended up I think the new more flawed version of Gotou works pretty well - being more realistic and entertaining after going back on it. Of course, I never originally saw the whole ntr teacher part and definitely think it would have tanked the story so I definitely think the retcon wholistically improved the direction of the story.

However after rereading I can now clearly see what my issues with the current story is, it isn't that Gotou is retarded but more so that I feel he's stagnated in terms of how that mental deficiency is displayed. He has always been driven by his libido ever since he chose to fuck Agawa despite fearing he'd be another fuckbuddy and regretting it later. He tries to differentiate himself from the other guys to rectify this however when Shiina comes onto him he folds which is fair enough however he makes a compromise with his morals and lust by having a threesome. Originally it seemed that Agawa had more of a problem with the threesome due to Shiina supposedly stealing all her crushes however it seems that has been dropped so I imagine she was just uncomfortable having a threesome with her half sister (not uncomfortable enough to have reservations about tounging her though 😭). Overall it was a good development imo.

Then when Akito is introduced, Gotou tries to be straight up and honest, trying to avoid using her and wanting to focus on studies, turning down Akito's advances and even offering to be her friend. Eventually Gotou relents though because although he is able to resist Akito trying to seduce him, her being brought to tears by kissing him which pushes him over the edge. Despite succumbing to his lust though, he incorporates his advice from Shiina and Agawa during the threesome to make Akito's first time amazing for her - which is good progress for Gotou as Agawa initially said he need to up his skill as his stamina being the main reason he enjoyed it meanwhile Shiina has a virgin (and cucking) fetish so naturally she would be inclined to enjoy the worser Gotou as well.

Then during summer school Gotou tries to lock in again but due to spite towards Inukai, fucks Shiina but in doing so, comes up with a (faulty) solution to his problem by simply having sex with all three girls as his own partners rather than struggling to decide between staying loyal to Agawa or not.

After this point is where the story starts to drop off though. The whole ED, Shigechi rehab stuff was mid - the concept itself of Gotou realising his new persona won't get him what he wants and realising his threesome plan is delusional is good but the execution is off. Shigechi was someone who cared alot about status and looks so even if she was definitely fascinated by Gotou, I feel that fucking him that quick didn't have the same logical basis as the other girls (but maybe that's a sluts way of seeing what all the hype's about). The bigger issue is that, previous sex scenes did contribute to the plot as Gotou would lose to his lust but at the very least would show some progress in mentality or skill (threesome instead of solo fucking Shiina, being considerate of Akito's desires during sex, trying to solve his issue with lusting after all the girls when cucking Inukai) - the main problem was solved by Shigechi talking to Gotou prior so I feel the sex scene was largely there just for fanservice/indulgence from Takeda.

Best to let this arc finish but currently it has the worst intro of them all lol.

Overall, top 3 sexiest scenes have to be:
1. Shiina making out with Gotou and then asking Agawa for permission
2. Shigechi berating Gotou while making out with him
3. Agawa calling Inukai to tease Gotou into fuck her

Imo I would say: everything up to chapter 69 > Sasha > chapter 70 onwards

 

[Late_Komei]

...since I recently marathoned both some piece of shit Manhwa called Brave New World and that Sasha-chan manga despite strongly disliking both. That Brave New World one especially I felt that I should be committed to a psychiatric hospital after subjecting myself to over 200 chapters of that. Christ.

Heh, not too often do I see a strongly negative opinion on that pornhwa.

I haven't read it but from I've gathered: GOATED art/ sex scenes but the writer couldn't cobble together a decent story.

 

[Roadwarior2]

Sasha's not that bad lol, it somewhat gives me similar vibes to daredemo's early chapters prior to Shiina's introduction.

You’re right, it’s not that bad, but I did find it pretty unappealing overall considering the sexual content and like I said in that comment I made in the main discussion thread for the series; the tonal whiplash is extremely jarring. Very amateurish and clumsy despite some genuinely heartfelt moments.

Imo I would say: everything up to chapter 69 > Sasha > chapter 70 onwards

I did read your thoughts on rereading Daredemo in your spoiler, and I think it’s an agreeable take, although I’m taking more of a wait-and-see approach to this arc rather than immediately writing it off as the worst one just 3 chapters in.

Heh, not too often do I see a strongly negative opinion on that pornhwa.

I haven't read it but from I've gathered: GOATED art/ sex scenes but the writer couldn't cobble together a decent story.

I tell ya man, it’s brutal even considering some great sex scenes aside (which do get extremely repetitive).
I was suckered into reading it by images of the main MILF character I saw randomly one day, and then I was sucked in further when the story turned into something like a raunchy HBO show about corruption and sexual politics/degeneracy within the highest levels of South Korean society. Then I was rug-pulled around a third of the way in when the two conniving offices ladies (including the aforementioned MILF) the underachieving loser and blackmailing rapist protagonist has been blackmailing and raping start going “I like your cock so much I actually love you now UwU” and the narrative starts reframing him as a morally upright kungfu action hero/James Bond type that all the ladies fall for instantly.
In short, as a whole the plot for the last 2/3 of the manga is outrageously fucking stupid despite showing earlier promise, and the narrative quickly and clumsily tries sanding the edges off their villain protagonist to try to make him some generic action movie star around the time the manwha likely became super popular.

 

[box2024]

You’re right, it’s not that bad, but I did find it pretty unappealing overall considering the sexual content and like I said in that comment I made in the main discussion thread for the series; the tonal whiplash is extremely jarring. Very amateurish and clumsy despite some genuinely heartfelt moments.


I did read your thoughts on rereading Daredemo in your spoiler, and I think it’s an agreeable take, although I’m taking more of a wait-and-see approach to this arc rather than immediately writing it off as the worst one just 3 chapters in.


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I tell ya man, it’s brutal even considering some great sex scenes aside (which do get extremely repetitive).
I was suckered into reading it by images of the main MILF character I saw randomly one day, and then I was sucked in further when the story turned into something like a raunchy HBO show about corruption and sexual politics/degeneracy within the highest levels of South Korean society. Then I was rug-pulled around a third of the way in when the two conniving offices ladies (including the aforementioned MILF) the underachieving loser and blackmailing rapist protagonist has been blackmailing and raping start going “I like your cock so much I actually love you now UwU” and the narrative starts reframing him as a morally upright kungfu action hero/James Bond type that all the ladies fall for instantly.
In short, as a whole the plot for the last 2/3 of the manga is outrageously fucking stupid despite showing earlier promise, and the narrative quickly and clumsily tries sanding the edges off their villain protagonist to try to make him some generic action movie star around the time the manwha likely became super popular.

Story wasn't the greatest but the artwork was up there with the best.