Boku no Ikezu na Konyakusha - Ch. 20.2

[MangaDex]

 

[Zeroabalonie899]

God this boy is a f***ing idiot. The dense romance MC is such a tired trope.

 

[Hot_Garbage_]

God this boy is a f***ing idiot. The dense romance MC is such a tired trope.

Honestly. Getting real sick of this.

 

[UdenEmpati]

God this boy is a f***ing idiot. The dense romance MC is such a tired trope.

Not sure why you're calling Sorata a fucking idiot.

He's not the one who has been incapable of speaking their actual feelings to their fiancee this entire time.
That would be Miyuki.
And even here, she could have pushed back. But did she? No. She just said "okay then" and walked away.
Sorata has been under the impression that everyone around him thinks he and Miyuki are a terrible match and that she's wasting her potential because of him.
Even those middle school friends of hers that they met at the diner a couple chapters back said as much when they found out what school she was attending in Tokyo, and when they found out that Sorata was her fiancee.

Do you just not read the manga chapter by chapter? You're not the first person I've seen try and lay the blame entirely at Sorata's feet, and I'm just really confused as to how you seem to have missed the mark so badly on the actual dynamic between the main pair of this series.

 

[Zeralinz]

Bro fumbled then come back just to fumble again

 

[nxneil13]

All of us to our boy:

 

[Raxy4life]

When the fakeout was for a conflict free resolution.

Well played Manga... Well played.

 

[Mindofone]

Man, waiting 7 days just for the pages to be gone in 20 seconds.

 

[Zeroabalonie899]

Not sure why you're calling Sorata a fucking idiot.

He's not the one who has been incapable of speaking their actual feelings to their fiancee this entire time.
That would be Miyuki.
And even here, she could have pushed back. But did she? No. She just said "okay then" and walked away.
Sorata has been under the impression that everyone around him thinks he and Miyuki are a terrible match and that she's wasting her potential because of him.
Even those middle school friends of hers that they met at the diner a couple chapters back said as much when they found out what school she was attending in Tokyo, and when they found out that Sorata was her fiancee.

Do you just not read the manga chapter by chapter? You're not the first person I've seen try and lay the blame entirely at Sorata's feet, and I'm just really confused as to how you seem to have missed the mark so badly on the actual dynamic between the main pair of this series.

I think Miyuki is just as bad with her not just flat out telling him how she feels, but this chapter was a step in the right direction for HER. She confirmed her moving to Tokyo was her grandfather's idea, but she also confirmed it was her decision to go through with it specifically so she could be with him. She told him clearly she wants to be by his side and he STILL had the GALL to say she should move to a better school because it's a waste for her to be by his side. Bro flat out took her feelings she was giving him and just dropped them on the ground like they were dog shit. That's why I called him an idiot. I'm not excusing Miyuki's lack of communication but I'm for sure damning Sorata's lack of any spine or decency towards her.

 

[arimareiji]

Fuyutani-sensei: "Ha, made you think I was going to drop some pointless grossly-abused/overused trope on you, didn't I? Psych! Everything's resolved, Miyuki saw straight through Ayano playing mind games with Sorata and reassured him, so now the misunderstanding is resolved!"
…
"Hahaha, double psych! Sorata's so stupid he's going to say he thinks Ayano was right! Then he'll instantly realize how stupid it was, but TOO LATE! Ha! The 'idio-drama' card is back in play!"
…
GFY, Fuyutani-sensei.

 

[UdenEmpati]

I think Miyuki is just as bad with her not just flat out telling him how she feels, but this chapter was a step in the right direction for HER. She confirmed her moving to Tokyo was her grandfather's idea, but she also confirmed it was her decision to go through with it specifically so she could be with him. She told him clearly she wants to be by his side and he STILL had the GALL to say she should move to a better school because it's a waste for her to be by his side. Bro flat out took her feelings she was giving him and just dropped them on the ground like they were dog shit. That's why I called him an idiot. I'm not excusing Miyuki's lack of communication but I'm for sure damning Sorata's lack of any spine or decency towards her.

It's also coming off the back of the entire series of Miyuki never telling Sorata straight-up what she thinks of him.
She says she's choosing Tokyo. To what end, though?

Plus, Sorata's mocked and belittled and derided by their classmates, by her acquaintances, by her brother--even Mary was insulting him when she first entered the storyline.

And through it all, Miyuki never stood up and called those people out, or directly expressed how she feels about Sorata. He doesn't even know she still has the ring he made her, because she hides it on a chain around her neck and never told him.

Sorata's done what he felt he could to show he wants to be with Miyuki, and she's never met him halfway in a manner that isn't roundabout or indirect.

And that's with Ayano's mindgames that have screwed with Sorata's head since they were children. all Miyuki said was that "he always says unnecessary things". But that's it. She doesn't call it "mind games" or reflect on how Sorata wouldn't "get" all her Kyoto dialect mannerisms, and it would seem she's never noticed how troubled and anxious he'd become over time because of it all.

Sorata's not perfect. But his call here is based on the fact that he's all but convinced, after years of trying to tell himself otherwise, that Miyuki is only with him because of their grandfathers.

And even here--all Miyuki said was "going to Tokyo was my choice", and "adding onto that, I interpreted grandpa's words as 'go to the same school as Sorata'".

That is not the same thing as saying "I want to go to Tokyo because Sorata is there and I want to be with him".

It's the same story from chapter one. Miyuki can't bring herself to state her feelings outright, and it's compounded into Sorata feeling like she's with him out of obligation and he can't stand her stifling herself.
Unless I missed a chapter, Miyuki's given him no reason to think otherwise.

 

[razorshaleh]

this MC so fucking dense

thank you for translating

 

[timcal2136]

It's also coming off the back of the entire series of Miyuki never telling Sorata straight-up what she thinks of him.
She says she's choosing Tokyo. To what end, though?

Plus, Sorata's mocked and belittled and derided by their classmates, by her acquaintances, by her brother--even Mary was insulting him when she first entered the storyline.

And through it all, Miyuki never stood up and called those people out, or directly expressed how she feels about Sorata. He doesn't even know she still has the ring he made her, because she hides it on a chain around her neck and never told him.

Sorata's done what he felt he could to show he wants to be with Miyuki, and she's never met him halfway in a manner that isn't roundabout or indirect.

And that's with Ayano's mindgames that have screwed with Sorata's head since they were children. all Miyuki said was that "he always says unnecessary things". But that's it. She doesn't call it "mind games" or reflect on how Sorata wouldn't "get" all her Kyoto dialect mannerisms, and it would seem she's never noticed how troubled and anxious he'd become over time because of it all.

Sorata's not perfect. But his call here is based on the fact that he's all but convinced, after years of trying to tell himself otherwise, that Miyuki is only with him because of their grandfathers.

And even here--all Miyuki said was "going to Tokyo was my choice", and "adding onto that, I interpreted grandpa's words as 'go to the same school as Sorata'".

That is not the same thing as saying "I want to go to Tokyo because Sorata is there and I want to be with him".

It's the same story from chapter one. Miyuki can't bring herself to state her feelings outright, and it's compounded into Sorata feeling like she's with him out of obligation and he can't stand her stifling herself.
Unless I missed a chapter, Miyuki's given him no reason to think otherwise.

I mostly agree with you. This specific exchange is definitely on Sorata, but Miyuki has passively played a massive role in the bottled-up emotions and reservations Sorata has

 

[Jack1996]

 

[Tymo]

It's also coming off the back of the entire series of Miyuki never telling Sorata straight-up what she thinks of him.
She says she's choosing Tokyo. To what end, though?

Plus, Sorata's mocked and belittled and derided by their classmates, by her acquaintances, by her brother--even Mary was insulting him when she first entered the storyline.

And through it all, Miyuki never stood up and called those people out, or directly expressed how she feels about Sorata. He doesn't even know she still has the ring he made her, because she hides it on a chain around her neck and never told him.

Sorata's done what he felt he could to show he wants to be with Miyuki, and she's never met him halfway in a manner that isn't roundabout or indirect.

And that's with Ayano's mindgames that have screwed with Sorata's head since they were children. all Miyuki said was that "he always says unnecessary things". But that's it. She doesn't call it "mind games" or reflect on how Sorata wouldn't "get" all her Kyoto dialect mannerisms, and it would seem she's never noticed how troubled and anxious he'd become over time because of it all.

Sorata's not perfect. But his call here is based on the fact that he's all but convinced, after years of trying to tell himself otherwise, that Miyuki is only with him because of their grandfathers.

And even here--all Miyuki said was "going to Tokyo was my choice", and "adding onto that, I interpreted grandpa's words as 'go to the same school as Sorata'".

That is not the same thing as saying "I want to go to Tokyo because Sorata is there and I want to be with him".

It's the same story from chapter one. Miyuki can't bring herself to state her feelings outright, and it's compounded into Sorata feeling like she's with him out of obligation and he can't stand her stifling herself.
Unless I missed a chapter, Miyuki's given him no reason to think otherwise.

Shhhh 🤫🤫

Let them believe that Sorata acting this way isn't justified and that Miyuki is the innocent princess with only some lack of communication in this manga.

 

[UdenEmpati]

I mostly agree with you. This specific exchange is definitely on Sorata, but Miyuki has passively played a massive role in the bottled-up emotions and reservations Sorata has

I'd honestly argue it's the consquences of Miyuki's neglect of Sorata up to this point.

Sorata's not a blameless victim, but he said this because he truly believes that he's getting in the way of Miyuki truly thriving. He's falling on his sword because he cares about Miyuki enough that he'd rather she reach her full potential, even at the cost of their relationship--which, again, he wants, but Miyuki always frames their engagement through the lens of their grandfathers' wishes.

And, Sorata's been getting the same sentiment of his inadequacy from everyone around them. That goes on long enough, and anyone would start to internalize it to the point they believe it themselves.

He certainly regrets saying it aloud, because doing so puts it out into the world where it risks being confirmed. But it's been on his mind since before even coming to Kyoto, and all his worries were coming to a head and tumbled out of him in this moment.

And instead of pushing back, Miyuki affirmed it, as Sorata always feared she would.

 

[UdenEmpati]

this MC so fucking dense

thank you for translating

Agreed, Miyuki is so fucking dense.

 

[Sakidornis]

Why would bro even do that? 😭

 

[undeadman]

Not sure why you're calling Sorata a fucking idiot.

He's not the one who has been incapable of speaking their actual feelings to their fiancee this entire time.
That would be Miyuki.
And even here, she could have pushed back. But did she? No. She just said "okay then" and walked away.
Sorata has been under the impression that everyone around him thinks he and Miyuki are a terrible match and that she's wasting her potential because of him.
Even those middle school friends of hers that they met at the diner a couple chapters back said as much when they found out what school she was attending in Tokyo, and when they found out that Sorata was her fiancee.

Do you just not read the manga chapter by chapter? You're not the first person I've seen try and lay the blame entirely at Sorata's feet, and I'm just really confused as to how you seem to have missed the mark so badly on the actual dynamic between the main pair of this series.

Yooooooo reading comprehension hell yeah

 

[jpoy21]

It's not too late, boy. Take your words back and speak your true feelings.

Regarding that programming homework in the credits, I have a fun but weird story. It's not Java but in C for me. I got stuck on a homework where I thought I got everything right but the output is just not displaying the expected result. I got so tired and slept after but in a dream, I was still debugging my program. I found in the dream that I was missing a single "+" sign in a line. When I woke up, I put the single plus sign into the code and everything magically worked. Very surreal how I was still working on my code while I was sleeping.