Sengoku Komachi Kuroutan - Ch. 101 - Adherence

[MangaDex]

 

[Gold_Scale]

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[Iratana]

Thanks for the update!

I think the biggest surprise for me was that Shizuku didn't realize that it was actually Nagamasa. I'm pretty sure she knew that he had joined her forces.

As for Nagamasa's father, I can't deny that I at least admire his idea of separating Nagamasa from the now tarnished Azai name. However, I still can't say that I think highly of him since his revolt would've actually gotten Nagamasa killed had it not been for Oda and his forces (I'm probably misremembering some details since it's been awhile).

Regardless, I'm happy with any chapter that shows the general and soldiers displaying their gratitude towards Shizuku.

 

[OWMWO]

Sadly there is no pride in death by killing yourself while hiding from the enemy onslaught and leaving the soldiers fighting for your cause to die a dog's death.
Valhalla will reject him.

 

[alacaelum]

I can show some respect to his reasoning... but good reasoning is dime a dozen.

Sending your family and soldiers to the slaughter because of good reasoning and achieving great victory because of petty desires are on the same level of prideful bullshitery stupidity to me.

I feel like Shizuko knows he is Nagamasa, she just doesn't have "confirmation" on his reasons, so to speak... which brings me to... quite ballsy of our girl accepting sending this guy with the assault if she is uncertain of the possible developments.

At this point, Shizuko clearly has accepted that they have already completely deviated from the "normal" timeline, and she has steeled her resolve to see this life through this.

But that doesn't mean she has complete control over everything, and that uncertain factors can't just pop out, especially because... we are talking of a timetable that can span decades, there are many changes already, many "characters" that shouldn't even be alive at this point anymore, and others that should be alive but current events may change how the act in the future, and so on.

 

[kuzunagi13]

Damn, now I'm just fucken sad again.

 

[Mogima]

if Nagamasa will become like his father because of this, imma flip.

 

[HDMI1]

Sadly there is no pride in death by killing yourself while hiding from the enemy onslaught and leaving the soldiers fighting for your cause to die a dog's death.
Valhalla will reject him.

It's the "nuh-uh, you didn't win" victory condition. lol

 

[sssr]

In real history the reason Azai fell had nothing to do with holding on to Oumi. They had simply chosen the honorable path of supporting their ancient allies against the aggressive newcomer Nobunaga. For that matter, it was Nobunaga who had technically betrayed the Azai by deliberately keeping them in the dark when he triggered his invasion of the Asakura. The Azai were simply behind the times and unprepared for the rapid changes of their changing political landscape. They were too honorable to survive the end stage of the sengoku.

Also, there may be a misunderstanding about the way these battles to the death were fought, and the manga is making this mistake as well. In general, the suicide would have been done BEFORE the defending grunts were forced into a last stand. The purpose was to give them the excuse to surrender. The historical Azai Nagamasa did this. He allowed his final loyalist samurai to satisfy their honor by fighting to the death, killed himself, his death was announced, and the remaining grunts surrendered.

The problem was that Nobunaga IRL was a pretty evil asshole and he killed them all anyway. Nobunaga even tricked his own sister Oichi into revealing the hiding place of Azai's son and had Hideyoshi kill him. This behavior by Nobunaga was actually the historical reason why last stands became so common in the sengoku end stage. Everyone who fought the Oda knew they couldn't expect mercy from Nobunaga and since the Oda were on the verge of unifying Japan, that "everyone" meant EVERYONE not of the Oda.

By the time of the fall of the Takeda, the Takeda final loyalists already well understood Nobunaga's tendencies and everyone killed their own wives and children then fought to the death. The Takeda were the final major clan destroyed by Nobunaga. He himself and his heir would follow their fate half a year later.

 

[TheCasualEnjoyer]

Now that the Azai arc has concluded... Honnō-ji anyone?

 

[TristhaniaGevra]

At this point, I had to respect him tbh.

 

[Kalamel]

It is not uncommon to kill and die for pride in ancester sacrifice.

That doesn't mean it is not a stupid thing to do.

 

[AbuHajaar]

Skill issue

 

[Flyingpantsu]

Thousands of good men die to fulfill the ideals of the elite few.
A land's heart lies in its people, not the land itself.
There's nothing honorable here.

 

[Scrabbleman]

Guess the "family" is truly dead now. Even if the son lives, he's exiled so he can't even inherit the name.

 

[Doomer]

i'm sure the soldiers who fought and died defending him are so happy he got to die honorably, he could have surrendered himself or publicly killed himself before the Oda attacked but instead he let his people die defending him only to then kill himself.

 

[chinfo]

I think the biggest surprise for me was that Shizuku didn't realize that it was actually Nagamasa. I'm pretty sure she knew that he had joined her forces.

She knew, obviously. Nene (Nagamasa's wife & sister to Nobunaga) and their children lives in Shizuko's estate. She referred to him with his pseudonym to emphasize the severed connection with the Azai and to make good of his vow to start from scratch as a lowly ashigaru.

 

[Iratana]

She knew, obviously. Nene (Nagamasa's wife & sister to Nobunaga) and their children lives in Shizuko's estate. She referred to him with his pseudonym to emphasize the severed connection with the Azai and to make good of his vow to start from scratch as a lowly ashigaru.

Then why was she wondering about his connection to his psuedonym (such as sharing the same childhood name), or why was she wondering why he wanted to join the attack where she knew the Azai were? Like I said, I know that she knew that he joined her army, but her interaction with him here and her internal monologue made it seem as though she wasn't yet aware of his exact identity.

I simply found that to be odd.

 

[d_a_renoir]

Not the translator's fault because even in the raw manga it's like that, but Hidenaga is NOT Hideyoshi's cousin!! They're brothers. How did the Japanese typesetter confuse 異父弟 (half-brother) with 従父弟 (cousin)? They look completely different.

 

[Gold_Scale]

Not the translator's fault because even in the raw manga it's like that, but Hidenaga is NOT Hideyoshi's cousin!! They're brothers. How did the Japanese typesetter confuse 異父弟 (half-brother) with 従父弟 (cousin)? They look completely different.

Oh sorry i already double check but in the japanese raw its says 従父弟

I don't know why but in the manga they change it to cousin