Teisou Gyakuten Sekai no Doutei Henkyou Ryoushu Kishi - Vol. 3 Ch. 13 - Beautiful Dream

[Carn109]

RIP Hanna

 

[syrop]

Who cares about an dying f0id. Show me the horny Guts

 

[BestBoy]

So you have no reply to that, no comeback you can use. As expected.

Why would I try to argue with someone whose argument is "paywalls are good actually"

 

[Nuggz]

Yep.
https://comick.dev/comic/teisou-gyakuten-sekai-no-doutei-henkyou-ryoushu-kishi

I forgot comick went from a hosting site to a tracking site

 

[HyperLazerOrange]

This is Chapter 13… we literally haven’t known any of these characters for a significant amount of time.

None of this means anything, and most importantly, the first few chapters of this series are an Erotic Comedy about a horny knight which has been completely excised from the series (along with his character).

So basically we have 3 comedy chapters and 10 from side chapters from a Berserk spin off.

Honestly kinda hard agree. Especially so we getting a whole backstory flashback during/after they died

Hell I remember when the chapters were dropping many people getting confused about the plot from how fast it was going and the cast kinda blurring together. Even the forgetting that the gender stereotypes are supposed to be flipped in this world

 

[Aelthar]

This is Chapter 13… we literally haven’t known any of these characters for a significant amount of time.

None of this means anything, and most importantly, the first few chapters of this series are an Erotic Comedy about a horny knight which has been completely excised from the series (along with his character).

So basically we have 3 comedy chapters and 10 from side chapters from a Berserk spin off.

The writing, story, and even art at certain points have been all over the place. Between the poor pacing and confusing paneling, it's confusing as hell if you try to actually piece shit together. I find it hard to find an emotional connection when we barely know anything about the characters. Unjust and brutal deaths don't mean shit when they're random and nonsensical as fuck.

For anyone who didn't feel this chapter, you're a monster, full stop.

Between this and the Musket Girls, this has been such a tearjerker trend across what should have been light-hearted female led fantasy mangas.

I cried at Anohana, Logan, the first demon slayer movie. I cried when my grandma died last month. I cried at the end of Endwalker and E33. Hell, I cried at the end of la-la land and half the ZZZ character trailers. This shit made me feel nothing because it didn't build anything up. We got a quarter of a chapter about Hanna and the entire manga reads like it was written by a schizophrenic on adderall. It's pretty clear the target demographic is lovers of grimdark slop who think over the top brutality and nonsensical and unjust deaths is peak writing. It's the lowest form of emotion bait and only works on the lowest common denominator. So berserk stans that have never actually read berserk and fromsoft shills that have only ever played Elden Ring.

 

[Drey]

This is Chapter 13… we literally haven’t known any of these characters for a significant amount of time.

None of this means anything, and most importantly, the first few chapters of this series are an Erotic Comedy about a horny knight which has been completely excised from the series (along with his character).

So basically we have 3 comedy chapters and 10 from side chapters from a Berserk spin off.

And that's fine

 

[StormSen]

... Between the poor pacing...

WTF even is "poor pacing"? Sounds like a pretentious way of passing off personal desires as objective facts.

You wanted it to go faster?, then say that. You wanted it to go slower?, say that. But don't pass off your wishes as objective facts.

PS: You're taking the hit because yours was the "one time" in "I've seen this 'poor pacing' bullshit one time too many."

 

[Amplify]

Why would I try to argue with someone whose argument is "paywalls are good actually"

Let's go ahead and add illiteracy to your list of known traits.

I said that it's understandable that they lock a couple of advance chapters on their own site for premium members because scanlation not only doesn't make money, it costs money to do. If you expect everyone to just put all chapters on MangaDex and fuck off outside your sensory radius and ban any who don't, you're going to quickly have a dead site on your hands.

 

[Amplify]

WTF even is "poor pacing"? Sounds like a pretentious way of passing off personal desires as objective facts.

You wanted it to go faster?, then say that. You wanted it to go slower?, say that. But don't pass off your wishes as objective facts.

PS: You're taking the hit because yours was the "one time" in "I've seen this 'poor pacing' bullshit one time too many."

It is objective fact, this is a mid to late game story beat being used in the prologue. Your complaint that he didn't specify too fast or too slow is nonsense as basic abductive reasoning should give you the answer, especially as he quantifies his statement a little better on the next line.

 

[BestBoy]

Let's go ahead and add illiteracy to your list of known traits.

When my argument is that paywalls are bad, full stop, and yours is that paywalls keep groups from losing money, you're implying that paywalls are good. Reading between the lines is hard, I know.

Groups are fully allowed to advertise donations and participate in other fundraising ventures.

you're going to quickly have a dead site on your hands.

It's been 9 months since the rule started getting enforced and I don't see MD going anywhere anytime soon.

Please, by all means, continue to play devil's advocate for the most hated groups in scanlating.

 

[BestBoy]

It's pretty clear the target demographic is lovers of grimdark slop who think over the top brutality and nonsensical and unjust deaths is peak writing.

For what it's worth, the overall story is 90% political drama, 5% over the top brutality, and 5% horny women. That 10% is just, unfortunately, frontloaded to set the stage. Basically, watershed moments that change the life trajectories for Faust, Valiere, and Zabine (drill hair knight).

Spoiler

Faust himself doesn't really do a whole lot of killing from this point on.

I do agree that Hannah's Beautiful Dream is a bit over dramatic, but I view it more as building the setting so you're aware how Valiere's knights all view her, and the reason why. That's sort of the more important part that gets carried forward.

 

[RadioForrest]

The writing, story, and even art at certain points have been all over the place. Between the poor pacing and confusing paneling, it's confusing as hell if you try to actually piece shit together. I find it hard to find an emotional connection when we barely know anything about the characters. Unjust and brutal deaths don't mean shit when they're random and nonsensical as fuck.


I cried at Anohana, Logan, the first demon slayer movie. I cried when my grandma died last month. I cried at the end of Endwalker and E33. Hell, I cried at the end of la-la land and half the ZZZ character trailers. This shit made me feel nothing because it didn't build anything up. We got a quarter of a chapter about Hanna and the entire manga reads like it was written by a schizophrenic on adderall. It's pretty clear the target demographic is lovers of grimdark slop who think over the top brutality and nonsensical and unjust deaths is peak writing. It's the lowest form of emotion bait and only works on the lowest common denominator. So berserk stans that have never actually read berserk and fromsoft shills that have only ever played Elden Ring.

bro cried at la-la land lmao

 

[Solipsist]

What are you on? The OG Novel? The WN? Still technically ongoing.
The LN? The one that in Japan is on Volume 6. The one that just released the Volume 3 in English?

Please, either do a second of research or be more believable.

The Author who has stuck in the lane they choose for 6 volumes? Yes, the hook was made, but this is essentially still volume 1 for the LN. The story bounces between Fausts difficulties with romance and having a wife, his warrior prowess, and the political connections of a feudal society. Particularly his own in what is the HRE by any other name, in what is effectively the 1300s Europe.

You can choose not to like the direction of the story. That is perfectly normal. But this is a very purposeful death for the two major characters it effects. Zabine and the Princess. None of the other guards really matter as much. Yes, you can track personality traits onto a few of them, but their importance is negligible.

That being said, the Manga sure did draw out and change the events here.

Someone got up out of the bad extra grumpy today.
As far as I recall, something indeed was not updated for a while behind the scenes, can't recall which, it seems.

That being said, with 6 volumes, it csn either mean very little or just enough to actually get a story going, who knows. I'll have to check it out.

 

[Aelthar]

bro cried at la-la land lmao

Hell yeah I did. Shit hit way too close to home at the time

 

[Tamult]

If you have read the LN, would you recommend it? The art of the manga is pretty good and I've enjoyed the recent arc, so I'm inclined to stick to it, but I'm curious. Unless it's like the backwater swordsman manga where it's just an entirely different and better experience with how the characters are written and portrayed.

I do enjoy it.

I will say that the manga is doing some weirdly changed story beats? Like nothing particularly drastic as of now compared to the WN and LN, but Helga getting injured didn't happen. If you've enjoyed the characterization, that isn't different either. Hannah's death isn't as wrung out in the LN. The official translation has an odd name translation for the second princess that still bothers me more than it should.

From checking ahead I'm not sure what is up with the conversation Duke Astarte is having, because it seems way more hostile than it comes across in the LN, but I guess it is fine? Probably to fill in the prior information from a scene we really didn't get. Just is really disjointed.

Someone got up out of the bad extra grumpy today.
As far as I recall, something indeed was not updated for a while behind the scenes, can't recall which, it seems.

That being said, with 6 volumes, it csn either mean very little or just enough to actually get a story going, who knows. I'll have to check it out.

. . . We all can be misinformed, I've certainly misspoke of something I've read. But checking how many volumes are out isn't particularly hard to do. I wasn't being particularly grumpy either. I was mostly flabbergasted that someone would say something so easily checked or was trolling for a reaction. It probably wouldn't have evoked such a reaction if I wasn't rather enjoying the story in the WN/LN as well.

 

[Aelthar]

WTF even is "poor pacing"? Sounds like a pretentious way of passing off personal desires as objective facts.

You wanted it to go faster?, then say that. You wanted it to go slower?, say that. But don't pass off your wishes as objective facts.

PS: You're taking the hit because yours was the "one time" in "I've seen this 'poor pacing' bullshit one time too many."

Just gonna delete my whole message since it was needlessly vitriolic. Have a nice day.

 

[Craeonkie]

What happened to my horny manga 😭

 

[Amplify]

When my argument is that paywalls are bad, full stop, and yours is that paywalls keep groups from losing money, you're implying that paywalls are good. Reading between the lines is hard, I know.

"Everything can only be a single binary choice, all things are either fully black or fully white" is a shit argument born of either poor literacy, poor understanding, or poor reasoning.

It's been 9 months since the rule started getting enforced and I don't see MD going anywhere anytime soon.

Please, by all means, continue to play devil's advocate for the most hated groups in scanlating.

Then you've really not been paying attention. I have 200+ series on my active reading list and 90% or more of those I originally started here on MangaDex or Batoto before it, I'll be generous and say that maybe 40 of them have the latest translated chapter on MangaDex now but it's probably less, with maybe a further 20 that I think probably will get uploaded here eventually but that will happen anywhere from maybe a week to six months from now.

There were two replacement sites that almost became a thing for a while but they both got nuked. The only reason people are still here and it's as high as 40 is because no replacement has stuck quite yet, but once it does watch traffic fall.

 

[motheblackcat]

Kinda hard to really get into it when my mind still wonders on the very first premise, the few number of chapters and the relatively short time we spent with those characters. I get the idea but yup too condensed and stretched at the same time weirdly heh.