Kuse Tsuyo Kanojo wa Toko ni Izanau - Vol. 4 Ch. 20.6

[shinya78]

Know what? Screw it, here's my notes on Luna for the guys. I'll just edit or copy the profile when new info comes in. Spoiler warning, you have been warned.

Spoiler: Profile:Luna

Subject: Luna, aka Luna-nee
Full Name: Someya Luna (Chapter 8)
Biological Gender: Female
Age: approx. mid~late 20s (Chapter 12 + 10 years)
Unique trait: Diamond-shaped pupils (prototype design gave her normal rounder eyes)
Description: An attractive young adult woman with a flashy appearance, is often seen upbeat and happy on public except on some occasions. Currently lives in an apartment with a younger relative named Kiyoshi Naoto, exact relation unknown, both treat each other like their own actual sibling. She treats her sisterly duties to her charge very seriously, to the point of almost above and beyond at times. (Chapters 1,2,8,9,11,18,21,24,26)

Generally messy with her possessions as a teen, by the time Naoto arrived at her front door, the inside of the apartment was completely littered with trash. Keeps a box containing her most treasured possessions, which happens to be trinkets that the young Naoto gave her in the past, including what appears to be a letter addressed to her. (Chapters 1,2,3)

Is friends with a bar owner named Ishikari Hiba, who also happens to be the owner of the very same bar that Luna currently works at. The two have known each other for at least a decade, and are close enough to know each other's sexual "tastes". (Chapters 6,10,14,17,18)

Is acquainted with a university student called Kawashina, given name currently unknown, they used to be close enough to be included in a group picture in the past, but Luna does not seem to recognize the current Kawashina as the same kid that once bit Naoto on the neck. (Chapter 5)

Is a former co-worker of Kurono Ryuuji, a person of all muscle and little to no brains, whom she treats like a younger underling. She didn't seem comfortable with Ryuuji being too close and invading her personal space. (Chapter 14,23)

Is acquainted with another university student named Kurono Mimi, younger sister of Kurono Ryuuji, was seen by Mimi as a target of revenge for seemingly taking away her brother from her. (Chapter 21,23,24)

Rumours followed her wherever she went, from being called someone who seduces other people for fun 10 years prior the beginning of the story (Chapter 18). To being a loose woman who will do it with anyone at the present day (Chapter 14).

Readers are in the dark about the truth of the rumours surrounding Luna just as much as Naoto, the MC, himself.

 

[shinya78]

Had to split it in two because I hit the 15,000 character limit, good gawd.

Spoiler: Notes:Luna

Notes:

• Dad not around since she was little, does not get along well with her own mother to the point of not talking to one another. <- Parental neglect? (Chapter 12)
• Admits to Naoto that she found the kotatsu cold when she was using it all alone by herself. <- Parents where? (Chapter 22)
• Confides to Mimi that she too knows the feeling of isolation all too well. <- Suffered from loneliness induced depression? (Chapter 23)
• Started visiting the countryside by the time she was in middle-school and meets the young Nao-kun for the first time, treats the Summers that she spent with the relative that she treats as her younger brother as the happiest time of her life, all the gloom disappeared while she was with him. <- Suspiciously rather specific, you're telling me she's happier playing with her younger brother over the prospect of a romantic partner and even kissing them? [+1 Sister Luna](Chapter 12)
• Broke a promise with Naoto to play with him, and was caught kissing an unnamed male around her own age. This resulted in Naoto sulking and ignoring her for the rest of the day, until Luna crawled to his futon, apologize to him, while crying herself to sleep, begging Naoto to never leave her. She then vowed after this incident to never hide things from Naoto because of how he'll treat her if she did. <- For a normal character, apologizing for breaking the promise should've sufficed considering Luna was supposed to be the "older sibling", this shouldn't be something to cry about while telling someone to not leave them after joining them in the same bed/futon... so you're telling me that she chose her younger brother over a potential lover, Suga? [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna](Chapter 4,4.5)
• Not having prepared presents for Naoto's "birthday", Luna gets pressured to give him a kiss, so she gave one on the forehead, and promised a proper one when he gets older. <- Not sure if Naoto's a natural quirky-girl-magnet, or Luna's holding a brush... Smacking one on the forehead as a sister I can understand, but was the promised future one necessary? [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 11)
• Rumours spread about Luna being a bad girl who seduces guys for fun, this also affected the young Naoto to some extent as kids are told to stay away from him as well. <- Rumour that was meant to make guys avoid her, huh? Sounds like malicious intent to me. Naoto caught some strays as well, not that it seemed to bother him anyway. Truth [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 18)
• Naoto gets bit by Kawashina, and Luna stares her down as if she's ready to throw hands. Luna shows an expression seemingly out-of-character for her so much that it feels out of place. <- Immediate aftermath is [not resolved], might get explained later. [+1 Sister Luna](Chapter 8)
• Patches Naoto up after the bite, scolds and gives Naoto proper sisterly advice. <- Very "older sister" of Luna, but where's the event that happened in-between? [+1 Sister Luna](Chapter 18)
• An unexplained event happened in the past that involved "Nao-kun being unable to accept Luna". <- Noodle Incident is [not resolved], might be THE secret related to her disappearance from Naoto for 10 years, might get explained later. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 16)
• Naoto's mother does not elaborate why Luna stopped showing up, only saying that because Naoto is too young that he wouldn't get it. <- What did Luna do? Truth [not resolved], might get explained later. [+1 Luna](Chapter 16)
• Rumours spread about Luna being someone who can do it with anyone, this affected Ryuuji as he seems very attracted to Luna. <- Rumour that was meant to make men approach and have a go at her, huh? Practically the same rumour as last time but with a completely different nuance, funny how that works. Truth [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 14)
• Naoto's mother is now seemingly okay with her son room sharing with Luna after the two were separated for 10 years. <- Naoto's mum surely knows something that we don't. Truth [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 1)
• She's about to meet Naoto again for the first time in 10 years, and the first things that come to mind is if he remembered the things they did in the past. <- Surely this doesn't lead to them playing the games they played in the past and become as close to each other as they once did, as if continuing where they left off 10 years ago, right? [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 5.6)
• Luna and Naoto reaffirms to each other that the other is like a real sibling to them, and this makes Luna happy. <- Just plain [+1 Sister Luna] I guess? (Chapter 1)
• First session is overheard, Luna is an avid practitioner of the Art of Self-pleasure, and she does so at least 5 days a week. But Naoto at first assumes she's having sex with no basis to stand on other than her loud moaning. <- We get confirmation that she's just masturbating 15 chapters later, non-believers condemn Luna as a slut immediately while believers only got trust in the tags and a dream. This sets the stage for future chapters full of baits and fake-outs. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 1)
• Suga Atsushi calls it [Risei Houkai Love Kome], huh? <- Combining rationale collapsing with love comedy, huh? So is it just Naoto losing his mind or everyone as well? I might as well [EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED]. Do not expect common sense from the characters from this point forward. (Chapter 2)
• On promotional pages for the volume 1 tankoubon, the manga gets called a [Nouhakai-kei Love Kome] <- "Mind-shattering Love Comedy", indeed. (Raw Promotional Image)
• Luna's concerned for Naoto's lack of sleep, so she tucks him to bed like she used to. <- She does yet not realize that her loud moaning is the main cause of Naoto getting mind crashed, but [+1 Sister Luna] here I guess. (Chapter 2)
• Luna's bedtime story is suspiciously very sibling coded <- Like Alabama siblings coded... [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 2)
• Luna touches herself over merely smelling Naoto's scent for the first time. <- Not very sister of you here Luna. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 3)
• A very opened-condom-wrapper-shaped object was found while cleaning. <- Ammo for non-believers while the believers still got nothing. Technically still [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 3)
• Door "kissing?" scene. <- Naoto tried to question this at least once but failed to get answers, so [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 4)
• Luna is shown talking to someone hidden from the readers. <- Luna get's called out for her moaning, but who was it? Being unanswered means [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 4)
• The two played house in the past, but Naoto's the baby. <- So, did Luna used the bottle when they played it, or did she used her jugs like Kawashina did? [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 5)
• Lightning takes out the power and Luna held him like she did to the young version all the way back, thinks he's homesick so she acts like a mother, and nurses him when he got the sick even if it involves mouth-to-mouth drinking. Also realization of Naoto giving her a hickey gets the ball rolling again. <- Not sure if I should count this as multiple instances or not [+1 Mother+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna]. (Chapter 8)
• Luna thinks that if Naoto realized he gave her a hickey, he'll leave her out of guilt and end the stay, and she hates the thought of it even happening. <- Yup, doesn't make any logical sense. Rationale goes out the window again. I'm giving it [+1 Sister Luna] anyway. (Chapter 9)
• Luna cuts out and blocks someone who dared telling Luna to prioritize them instead of Naoto. <- Not sure if one-off just to show Luna choosing Naoto above anyone else, or come back later to help resolve another secret. Anyway, [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 9)
• Drunk!Luna demands for them to become close once again, just like they used to 10 years ago. <- Goes straight to playing games and saying to be even more closer than they did before, so basically continuing from where they left off 10 years ago? [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 9)
• The whole date feels like a continuation of them having fun 10 years ago, even when they joined up with Hiba, the only difference is that they're drinking alcohol now. <- Another "continuation from 10 years ago" chapter this one. [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 10)
• Love Hotel Birthday Kiss <- Luna stayed true to her word, nuff said. [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 11)
• Bathtub sharing and trauma dumping with Luna saying "I love you" <- Reminder that this is "suki", not the romantic "aishiteru". [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 12)
• Beach chapter, good sis Luna brings inland boy to sea for the first time. Claims Naoto can have "Luna-nee" but she can't give him "Luna" <- This is actually a Kawashina chapter, change my mind. [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 13)
• Luna only wanted to have fun with Nao-kun, and it took Hiba calling Naoto out to set him straight. <- So you're saying she's not going to be happy if Naoto's not with her? [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 14)
• "Once again ended up being protected by him." <- So, Kid!Naoto protected Luna before? Might be important detail for later so tagged as [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 14)
• Luna finally gets caught playing single-player and having secrets that she thinks might cause Naoto to hate her. <- Turning point 1, or something. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 15,15.5,16)
• Despite getting caught by the catalyst of her horny himself, Luna still insists that she treasures Naoto like a real little brother. <- There's a double standard happening here, I just can't prove it... [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 16)
• Luna pretends to fall asleep and hopes current Naoto can accept "Luna". <- This time, you say? Whatever happened last time anyway? [+1 Luna] (Chapter 16)
• Luna gets caught practicing the Pleasurable Arts to Naoto mid-day. <- Nuff said. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 16)
• Rare genuine reaction of Luna, sulking after getting left out of hanging out with the gang. <- I suppose she thinks they're going to be playing again? [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 17)
• Not even Hiba is spared when one messes with Naoto. <- Not sure that counts as "punishment", Luna... [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 18)
• Luna feeling left behind caused her to spill another secret all on her own, serving her selfish desire to stay with Naoto. <- Why the obsession though? [+1 Luna] (Chapter 19)
• Big squeeze into indecent moan, while somehow imagining the shadow of the younger form of the man that hugged Luna. <- Does this have something to do with Past!Nao-kun being unable to accept "Luna"? [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] Then if so, this is [not resolved], might get explained later. (Chapter 19)
• Luna gets asked if she's Naoto's lover, proclaim proudly to be his older sister instead. <- Okay Luna, you choose this... [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 21)
• Luna gets in a heated argument on how to do a better job. Naoto just sees Luna is being stubborn, but Luna apparently isn't lying when she said she's willing to do the job to him. <- Both gets point, I guess? [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 21)
• Luna shares a moment with Naoto and plays retro video games while inside a kotatsu. <- Wholesome, nuff said. [+1 Sister Luna] (Chapter 22)
• Luna inadvertently pokes Naoto Jr. under the kotatsu, then suddenly admits that this is also one of her secrets. <- Not as wholesome, somewhat heavy, actually. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 22)
• Karaoke double date, Naoto asks Luna what she did during high-school, she refused to give an answer. <- There's a secret here, I can smell it. So [not resolved]? might get explained later? (Chapter 23)
• Karaoke double date, Luna is angry at Mimi for messing with Naoto, but lets her off easy because she's been through a similar experience that Mimi had, depressed and lonely. <- Depression? In a love comedy manga? It's more likely than you think! [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 24)
• Luna kisses Naoto to overwrite Mimi's kiss, then you bust out the matching app because Naoto makes her too horny? <- Logic is not logic-ing here, there has to be another reason why she chose not to logic so [not resolved], might get explained later. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 24)
• Luna used the matching app to meet with some guy with the intention to erase sexual desires, to become "Luna-nee" again. <- Okay, so if having sexual desire = crossing "line" = Naoto leaving again, then does this have anything to do with Past!Naoto separation 10 years ago? [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 25)
• Luna's usage of the matching app turned out to be another secret and Naoto says he doesn't care, yet she still insists on giving Naoto a helping hand with his pent up urges as "Luna-nee". <- Why is she obsessed with being his older sister so much? This part is [not resolved], might get explained later. [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 26)
• Luna gave Naoto a helping hand, while he gave her one as well. Then it turned out she left the guy she matched with just as he arrived. <- So, is this a pattern or something? It looks like she's egging on the guy and leaving him with dashed hopes if she did this to a teenager, while it just looks like her schedule didn't allow her to continue if she did this to an adult. Smells like rumour fuel that's [not resolved], might get explained later. [+1 Sister Luna, +1 Luna] (Chapter 26)

 

[Lex27]

• First session is overheard, Luna is an avid practitioner of the Art of Self-pleasure, and she does so at least 5 days a week. But Naoto at first assumes she's having sex with no basis to stand on other than her loud moaning. <- We get confirmation that she's just masturbating 15 chapters later, non-believers condemn Luna as a slut immediately while believers only got trust in the tags and a dream. This sets the stage for future chapters full of baits and fake-outs. [+1 Luna] (Chapter 1)

You forgot the creaking and the plapping. She's also talking to someone during her moans in chapter 1.

I mean just because she masturbated 15 chapters later, after she had that crashout with her 相手 on the phone, doesn't mean there was no sex at all.

 

[ItzDonner]

You forgot the creaking and the plapping. She's also talking to someone during her moans in chapter 1.

I mean just because she masturbated 15 chapters later, after she had that crashout with her 相手 on the phone, doesn't mean there was no sex at all.

As far as we know no sex. She may be talking but nobody is answering

 

[Lex27]

As far as we know no sex. She may be talking but nobody is answering

True, I just wanted to add that there was more than just the moaning.

Then again, her not having sex is likewise unconfirmed.

 

[shinya78]

You forgot the creaking and the plapping. She's also talking to someone during her moans in chapter 1.

I mean just because she masturbated 15 chapters later, after she had that crashout with her 相手 on the phone, doesn't mean there was no sex at all.

If your argument is just her talking, then she must be having sex with someone here, and here as well. Surely there's an invisible guy doing her from somewhere in those examples. Must be.

Again, surely some of it couldn't possibly have even been audio leaking from her using a broken earphone, just like the time Naoto finally heard a guy's voice from all her sessions, surely. /sarcasm

If what you're saying is because the voices stopped because Luna blocked the person on the phone, remember that correlation does not imply causation, there's the need for more evidence to confirm that. Thus, her having sex is likewise unconfirmed.

When Naoto finally confronted Luna about her being loud. He told her he could hear it the entire time, that she was intense every day, this was the accumulation of all the sleepless nights that he's been subjected to hearing her nearly every night. He was even going to ask about the "kiss?" at the door, but Luna conveniently cut him off, keeping that mystery alive. Remember, Naoto kept up with Luna when he noticed the noise at 2am and couldn't sleep at all since on that night in Chapter 1, he'd hear doors opening and closing if there was another person leaving that small apartment at some point in the morning. So...

As far as we know no sex.

 

[Ensashapedia]

Long time listener, first time caller lol.

I picked this up a little while ago, sad to see Radeon dropped dead or whatever happened.

I debated with myself on commenting, because I wanted to keep this profile strictly to Sasha, but whatevs.

From my perspective it doesn't really matter that she didn't follow through with her hookup. The betrayal was going in the first place, AND Nao saw it, the one thing she never wanted to happen, and more hiding things.

To us, she may be Schrödinger's slut, but from Nao's perspective she IS a slut and he accepts that. For all her talk about not hiding anything from him, she doesn't actually tell him anything. She leaves misunderstandings fester like a wound. It's infuriating.

Not to mention all the mental gymnastics she does about being his "Luna-nee", when it's clear it's alllll "Luna" running this show.

Would your sister practically give you a foot job under a kotatsu? Would your sister be DTF? Come on Luna. Anyway just wanted to vent lol, not looking to add another 20 pages to this thread.

Also from an earlier convo about the size of her apartment. I reread everything and I think I have a relatively clear picture of how her 2ldk is laid out

 

[shinya78]

Would your sister practically give you a foot job under a kotatsu? Would your sister be DTF? Come on Luna. Anyway just wanted to vent lol, not looking to add another 20 pages to this thread.

Also from an earlier convo about the size of her apartment. I reread everything and I think I have a relatively clear picture of how her 2ldk is laid out

You'd be surprised. When I was still in the country, I've heard many firsthand accounts of Japanese folks in "the industry" who got their first "awakening" or their usual "fix" that way before they landed on their current profession.

Facing from the entrance, hallway with four doors, door on the right is Naoto's room, first door on the left leads to the bathroom and laundry, door next to that is the toilet, door facing the entrance leads to the LDK, further back is the balcony, to the right of the LDK are sliding doors adjacent to Naoto's room, that is Luna's room. Yup, that's small.

 

[besbin]

Have it actually been confirmed that nothing happened in the hotel room in the newest chapter?

Spoiler: RAW chap 26

Text extraction:

Luna: "ごめんねこの前は来てくれたのにすぐに帰って"
X: "気にしないで? またリスケしよう･･･ いつ空いてる?"
X: "今度の金曜日どうかな?"

Translated:

Luna: "Sorry you came earlier but I left so soon."
X: "Don't worry about it? We can reschedule... When are you free?"

Isn't that kinda ambiguous that nothing happened at all? It can be a quickie, handjob, one round thing before she dipped out when the guy was still there. Or is my Japanese skill just not enough to spare the context here

 

[Ensashapedia]

You'd be surprised. When I was still in the country, I've heard many firsthand accounts of Japanese folks in "the industry" who got their first "awakening" or their usual "fix" that way before they landed on their current profession.

Facing from the entrance, hallway with four doors, door on the right is Naoto's room, first door on the left leads to the bath, door next to that is the toilet, door facing the entrance leads to the LDK, further back is the balcony, to the right of the LDK are sliding doors adjacent to Naoto's room, that is Luna's room. Yup, that's small.

Are you 100% sure?
From my mental mapping.

From the entrance, a hallway, one door immediately to your right and left, seeming to be the toilet and wash room.

After that on the left is Nao's room. On the right I didn't see another door, but probably a closet there.

At the end of the hall a door leading into the main living area.
To the left, Luna's room with sliding doors, to the right a tv, shelf and table.
At the far end of the room on the right the kitchen area.

I have had some confusion mapping it out, not sure if I missed something or just inconsistent art from the author. Sometimes I thought there might even be two sets of sliding doors. One for Lunas room and another set for a second living area/kitchen. On the balcony you can see two sets of doors. could be Shinya's layout and those go to Luna's room, but could also work perfectly for my mapping.

 

[Ensashapedia]

btw this isn't important at all, my brain has just be autistically stuck on it.

 

[shinya78]

Have it actually been confirmed that nothing happened in the hotel room in the newest chapter?

Spoiler: RAW chap 26

Text extraction:


Translated:

Isn't that kinda ambiguous that nothing happened at all? It can be a quickie, handjob, one round thing before she dipped out when the guy was still there. Or is my Japanese skill just not enough to spare the context here

Yeah, about that.

Spoiler: Dialogue analysis

この前は = The other day
来てくれたのに = (Even) though (you) arrived
すぐに帰って = (I) immediately went home.

Essentially: "I'm sorry I had to go back (home) immediately even though you arrived (to meet up with me) the other night."

Luna dipped out before the meat and potatoes, either after drinks or before. Besides, why would the guy suggest a re-schedule if he already got even a lil' something from her out of the encounter?

 

[shinya78]

Are you 100% sure?
From my mental mapping.

From the entrance, a hallway, one door immediately to your right and left, seeming to be the toilet and wash room.

After that on the left is Nao's room. On the right I didn't see another door, but probably a closet there.

At the end of the hall a door leading into the main living area.
To the left, Luna's room with sliding doors, to the right a tv, shelf and table.
At the far end of the room on the right the kitchen area.

I have had some confusion mapping it out, not sure if I missed something or just inconsistent art from the author. Sometimes I thought there might even be two sets of sliding doors. One for Lunas room and another set for a second living area/kitchen. On the balcony you can see two sets of doors. could be Shinya's layout and those go to Luna's room, but could also work perfectly for my mapping.

Sure, I'll entertain you.

Let's see if this works... (references: Chapter 1,5,6,12,16,25)

          [Bath&Laundry] [-Toilet-]
                  [door]   [door]
[Entrance][--------Hallway--------][door][ Living-Dining-Kitchen ][sliding glass doors][Bal]
                  [door]                      [sliding doors]                          [-co]
          [------Naoto's Room-----][wall][------Luna's Room------][sliding glass doors][-ny]

 

[Ensashapedia]

Sure, I'll entertain you.

Let's see if this works... (references: Chapter 1,5,6,16,25)

          [Bath&Laundry][Toilet]
             [door]      [door]
[Entrance][--------Hallway--------][door][ Living-Dining-Kitchen ][sliding glass doors][Balcony]
                   [door]                   [sliding doors]
          [------Naoto's Room-----][wall][------Luna's Room------]

Yes. After going back through it again a couple times being extra thorough, I believe you have it right. I think my confusion came from Chapter one where I mistook one angle.

I did up a floor plan. Ignore any measurements, this is just a visual reference. I also did not model the closet area to the immediate lest when coming in.

 

[shinya78]

Yes. After going back through it again a couple times being extra thorough, I believe you have it right. I think my confusion came from Chapter one where I mistook one angle.

I did up a floor plan. Ignore any measurements, this is just a visual reference. I also did not model the closet area to the immediate lest when coming in.

I just fixed my earlier post a bit, did some realignment, and I forgot about the balcony being connected to Luna's room. It should be more accurate now. But yeah, there had been inconsistencies in the manga with the doors on the hallway. In this shot (you're seeing the glass door separating the bath from the laundry and sink) the Toilet is suddenly the Bath & Laundry (door behind Naoto is opened and swings inside).

As for your floor plan, doors placed wrong aside (swings the wrong way even), that's more or less the layout.

 

[altera-weiss]

Have it actually been confirmed that nothing happened in the hotel room in the newest chapter?

Spoiler: RAW chap 26

Text extraction:


Translated:

Isn't that kinda ambiguous that nothing happened at all? It can be a quickie, handjob, one round thing before she dipped out when the guy was still there. Or is my Japanese skill just not enough to spare the context here

この前 is just referring to previous event/earlier and the "came earlier" isn't came as in climax, basically just saying "Sorry I had to leave early even though you came/took the trouble to come all the way here(to meet me)."

 

[Wyrm666]

Holy crap! Once again, forum posts are managing to be more entertaining than the manga they are about. Not even when analyzing texts in school was this thorough and detailed.
Keep up the good work, boys!

 

[ItzDonner]

Holy crap! Once again, forum posts are managing to be more entertaining than the manga they are about. Not even when analyzing texts in school was this thorough and detailed.
Keep up the good work, boys!

I should be studying for my university but instead i'm here theorizing if a woman is a slut or not.

 

[ItzDonner]

I mean it's not bad that she is "quirky" but seems to me that is not fair for naoto (even though he acts like it's ok, he gets upset).
In other series like daredemo and that one with the classmate call girl where the girl is clearly not a virgin and is confirmed to be whore. I don't feel bad when the protagonist romance her. If he doesn't got to be the loser.

Here so far, it looks like the protagonist is getting the worse deal. In his perspective ( not ours,his) luna goes on one night stands with other people. Kiss a guy by the door. Kiss a guy on the countryside. But none of this guys have to put nearly 1% of the effort he puts (of course we don't know what they do behind the scenes but that's the protagonist perspective).
So we kinda see him on chapter 25 on rant saying basically "why not me though?".

Sounds like his frustrations with luna shenanigans are getting bigger and bigger.
In earlier chapters he even think about leaving the house, because he thinks luna has someone over.
Edit: not because he is mad at luna but because he thinks he is a "nuisance" to her relationship.

 

[Lex27]

If your argument is just her talking, then she must be having sex with someone here, and here as well. Surely there's an invisible guy doing her from somewhere in those examples. Must be.

Well, at that point she's clearly fantasizing about doing it with Naoto. She didn't call out his name mid-moaning before.

If it's all just audio from her porn flicks, loud enough that Naoto hears plapping through a wall, how come Naoto doesn't hear the girls from the videos? Japanese actresses are notoriously loud.

Also, no need to be sarcastic with me.