Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

[Mazaky]

Ah, I must've missed that in all the chatter. Thought it was a mod, not an admin. Dunno if they were around from the founding, but if so, wouldn't they have final authority on what they want and don't want to see on their site? If people don't want to support them because they can't find titles they're looking for, no one is twisting their arm and forcing them to. I'm pretty sure the site would do just fine without certain titles, regardless of how haphazardly the rule is applied. Again, just because it's community-supported doesn't mean that the community can dictate everything. Sure, hit them in the pocketbook to prove a point, but is there enough to do just that? I'm pretty sure the site would survive with or without whatever titles people are taking issue with. I mean, what's to stop them from reinstating them only to have them mysteriously nuked under a "DMCA takedown" notice? How is that any different? This is taking any of the admin's comments out of the equation, mind you.

If we're being honest, none of the "legal mumbo-jumbo" presented on this site would stand up in court anyway, and it's really just a poor attempt to avoid running afoul of any laws (a really bad way of "get out of jail free").

It’s not a founding admin; it’s someone who joined relatively recently (around two years ago) and appears to have close ties with NamiComi, which is part of the broader issue here.

I agree that the staff ultimately have final authority. However, I disagree with the idea that the community cannot influence basic features of the site. The platform is not only community-supported but community-based. It runs on content created by others. If the staff were producing the content themselves, your argument would be stronger. But since everything on the site is created entirely by the community, that community naturally has a stronger voice and greater leverage than the staff, whose role should primarily be to maintain the site as a reliable hub for that content.

I would recommend looking at this comment I made where I go into more detail about the issues surrounding this situation, as I don’t want to repeat the same points. It should be obvious, though, that if contributors stop uploading their scan group content to MD, the site would suffer. DMCA takedowns at least have a clear justification, and people can usually verify them through formal notices issued to the site. That is very different from selectively removing content because it is deemed “problematic,” especially when there is no clear reasoning provided to support that decision and would affect in reality around 90% of the content of the site, since it's not specifically "loli" content but any "underage-related" content, which would vanish any slice-of-life that contains romance from adolescents, as I mentioned in the other comment, titles like Kaguya-sama, Sono Bisque, Horimiya, Berserk and many other would be in those rules to be also removed from this site.

You also touched on the main issue people are raising. The staff’s justification for the takedown focuses entirely on the alleged illegality of the content. But considering that the site itself is built around unauthorized content, which would not stand up in court, it raises the question of why they are relying so heavily on a legal argument—especially if the specific content in question does not actually violate any laws.

When you combine this with the staff member’s comment, in which he effectively labeled anyone who reads any “loli” content as a pedophile, it becomes easier to understand why the situation escalated so quickly.

 

[Miros]

A fair portion of denominations within Protestant Christianity (excluding the evangelicals) do accept LBGT members to some degree. In some cases they are also allowed to serve as clergy.

There is a big ass difference between tolarate and accept

 

[kira761]

Not surprised a transexual staff / admin started all of this. these ppl always invade moderation / admin teams across communities and change the rules / culture from within, they have a heightened sense of morality because they depend on said morality for their social acceptance and inclusion.

 

[kingzzoof]

Not surprised a transexual staff / admin started all of this. these ppl always invade moderation / admin teams across communities and change the rules / culture from within, they have a heightened sense of morality because they depend on said morality for their social acceptance and inclusion.

It is always them.

 

[sillyangelboy]

Can we stop with the excuses to make ourselves feel better and see things as they truly are?

The Bible addresses same-sex sexual behavior clearly and consistently as sinful, not open to interpretation not implied, there is not 1 bible i have read without text against same-sex sexuality.

10 seconds on google all you need.

"Excuses"?? Dude, the Bible barely mentions homosexuality as it is, and the places that people claim it does can also be interpreted as criticizing self-indulgent lifestyles in general. For example, some believe the story of Sodom to be clearly anti-gay, while others believe it to be a cautionary tale against allowing a society to fall into inhospitality and selfishness.
Passages in modern bibles where homosexuality is explicitly mentioned can also be traced back to the original Hebrew text, and seen to be much more unclear than you might've been led to believe.
Motivations of the translators (who were a powerful class at the time that the Canon as we know it was agreed upon due to literacy being a rare skill) aside, the translations of these texts vary wildly due to missing cultural context and the fact that it was transmitted orally for YEARS before ever being written down. It's similar to how the Romans took "son of God" as literal when Paul began preaching to them because, in their culture, they believed that Gods could have literal children, when in reality, it was likely a Jewish turn of phrase that meant "a morally upstanding person" at the time (because, yknow... Jesus was a countercultural rabbi who existed within a Jewish context for his entire lifetime. Christianity didn't split from Judaism until nearly a century after his death, and wasn't organized into a definitive canon until centuries after that.)
Again, we just don't know the cultural context of the time because we're so far removed from it, so it's quite literally impossible to say one way or the other regardless of what you or I personally hold to be true.

With all due respect, maybe you should spend more than 10 seconds on Google, my guy. It takes a lot more time than that to research something like this. Don't let yourself fall into the idea that things like these are so clear cut, because it's nowhere near, especially when it comes to something as intrinsically personal as religion. There is no "as it truly is" for that reason alone.

I'm not engaging with this further, as I have schoolwork I need to do and it's veering waaay off topic (my own fault tbh, I yap a lot about this stuff.)
Peace and love to you, man, Im sure we can get along over lolisho or something another time.

Edit: edited for word choice + prose.

 

[OisE]

Not surprised a transexual staff / admin started all of this. these ppl always invade moderation / admin teams across communities and change the rules / culture from within, they have a heightened sense of morality because they depend on said morality for their social acceptance and inclusion.

It is always them.

Happy to see you leave. We don't need people like you here.

 

[Nekomizus]

It is always them.

Furries too.

 

[kira761]

Happy to see you leave. We don't need people like you here.

im happy to see you people single handedly set back the entire lgbtq movement years for bein obnoxious. you are doing a great job at garnering good will for your cause

 

[furryadminhypocrite]

It's a trap!

 

[OisE]

im happy to see you people single handedly set back the entire lgbtq movement years for bein obnoxious.

Do you know me?? What are you shitting about?

 

[kira761]

Do you know me?? What are you shitting about?

the kind of people you are defending obviously

 

[OisE]

the kind of people you are defending obviously

Wow, didn't know we had some JK Rowling fans here. You can def report yourself, the mods will come soon.

 

[LilithRaven]

ONLY 10 ENTRIES GOT DELETED AND FUTURES ACTIONS ARE PAUSED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE

if you think they will stop? no they won’t, the pandora box has already been open :3 and with the lovely Admin and the mods agreeing with her, yeah say good bye to this website

 

[kira761]

Wow, didn't know we had some JK Rowling fans here. You can def report yourself, the mods will come soon.

generic jk rowling comment. u ppl are so predictable

 

[OisE]

generic jk rowling comment. u ppl are so predictable

You people are the same everywhere too!
That's funny we have so much in common!

 

[Nekomizus]

Wow, didn't know we had some JK Rowling fans here. You can def report yourself, the mods will come soon.

I don't follow her, but Harry Potter is cool.

 

[kira761]

You people are the same everywhere too!
That's funny we have so much in common!

i made valid observations. you on the other hand resorted to generic bottom of the barrel comments like mentioning jk rowling and threatening with a ban / expulsion... classic.

 

[Grogzilla]

I told myself I wasn't going to speak in here

But if y'all don't behave I will be locking the thread
This is the last warning

 

[OisE]

i made valid observations. you on the other hand resorted to generic bottom of the barrel comments like mentioning jk rowling and threatened with a ban... classic.

Valid observations lol. Did you stalk the admin to say that? Why are you attacking the person behing the decision and not the decision in the first place? You make me laugh because you think you are so smart.
I am not threatening you with a ban, I am just telling you that you will be banned because you created your account today only to make other people suffer.
Don't try to change your mindset it can be pretty dangerous for you to be more openminded be careful.

 

[LordofLeechers]

Alright, the shitposting has started. I doubt this thread will have anything more valuable for a while. I recommend everyone invested in this matter let it simmer for a bit, and come back after it cools down.