Akuyaku Reijou Level 99 ~Watashi wa Ura Boss desuga Maou de wa Arimasen~ - Ch. 25.3

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First of all, thank you very muhc for picking up this series. The translation is great, keep up the great work. :hearts:

Secondly, I am glad to see Yumelia returns and actually showing once again how much of a saint she really is. First forgiving the maid, then forcing her parents to step down without killing them (something that a lot of people would do in her place) and then deciding to become a countess in order to be a good ruler and fight against discrimination. She is one goated villainess and I love you for that. :chad:

What I also love is how this series is presenting how "modern" people's morals are so well developed that others see them as "unusually kind". Which really struct a cord, as one of the things that modern society can boost with pride is how much empathetic we have became after centuries of brutal warfare and bringing the world at the edge of apocalypse.

All in all, I am glad this series is finally back and I hope to see more of it.
 
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"Discrimination and exclusion are born from the weakest and ugliest parts of the human heart."

No, they aren't. They are born from the most essential and vital part of the human experience. They are good things to have. What is not good, however, is to never revisit the reasons why they exist. If we want to move forward as a species, the key is not to banish these things wholesale; that way lies destruction. What we must do is examine our prejudices through the lens of logic, and make a hard determination if such prejudices continue to serve a purpose.

A fence that serves no purpose ought to be removed, but before removing it, we must first understand why it was built to begin with, lest we cast aside something we desperately need.
 
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"Discrimination and exclusion are born from the weakest and ugliest parts of the human heart."

No, they aren't. They are born from the most essential and vital part of the human experience. They are good things to have. What is not good, however, is to never revisit the reasons why they exist. If we want to move forward as a species, the key is not to banish these things wholesale; that way lies destruction. What we must do is examine our prejudices through the lens of logic, and make a hard determination if such prejudices continue to serve a purpose.

A fence that serves no purpose ought to be removed, but before removing it, we must first understand why it was built to begin with, lest we cast aside something we desperately need.
What vital and essential parts of the human experience? Under what conditions are they needed?
 
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How did "仲良くしている男がいるのだろう?" ("There is a man you are close to, is there not?") translate to "He probably thinks there's a man I'm close to" on page 11? It makes no sense since it's the king who's speaking (and who's the "He" the king refers to?), especially when seeing you made a question into a affirmation. It's jarring and makes me wonder how much of the rest of the text is a mistranslation when something as obviously wrong passes the proofreading.

Edit: on page 15, you translated "私が死ぬまでには話すことを誓おう" ("I promise to tell the story before I die") into "Until the day I die, I'd rather not speak about it". It's the opposite meaning. I won't search for everything but now I'm sure: that translation is bullshit and doesn't deserve any donation you're asking for. The editing is nice and sentences are in proper English, that's the good thing here, but the first thing to avoid is the translation being contradictory with the original text.
 
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What vital and essential parts of the human experience? Under what conditions are they needed?
The parts that allowed humans to survive long enough to establish civilization, naturally. The parts that allow humans to continue to survive in a world that is actively trying to kill them. (It's trying to kill everything else, too, so it isn't anything personal)

As to the conditions, varied and many. That is why examination of prejudices is an absolute necessity. If the conditions that brought it about no longer apply (or perhaps in some cases, never applied), then perhaps that prejudice ought to be discarded. A fence built to keep something out only matters if that something exists. If the danger is gone, then maintaining that fence is a waste of time and energy that can be devoted elsewhere.
 
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The parts that allowed humans to survive long enough to establish civilization, naturally. The parts that allow humans to continue to survive in a world that is actively trying to kill them. (It's trying to kill everything else, too, so it isn't anything personal)

As to the conditions, varied and many. That is why examination of prejudices is an absolute necessity. If the conditions that brought it about no longer apply (or perhaps in some cases, never applied), then perhaps that prejudice ought to be discarded. A fence built to keep something out only matters if that something exists. If the danger is gone, then maintaining that fence is a waste of time and energy that can be devoted elsewhere.
I think you're conflating prejudice (the act of irrationally presuming traits of something or someone- usually negatively- solely because it is different, unusual, or has a specific appearance without any visible proof otherwise) with acknowleding characterization (Identifying the distinct traits or features of a substance or object through objective data). For example. It's prejudiced to say 'this person is GOING to act like this because they have this trait' when there is literally zero actual proof whatsoever that they are going to do so- folk tales, heresay, and supposition are not empirical data. It is NOT prejudiced to say 'that person will probably kill me' if the vast majority of their specific visible actions are violent, unprompted by outside force, and without hesitation. Yumiella hasn't done anything worthy of negative characterization; in fact it's been shown repeatedly, even in this chapter, that by the standards of this world, she is unusually KIND. Such things are more common than not IRL, too. What people want to say is characterization is really just prejudice, because there's zero way you can simply assuming things about a person; people are too complex and too different to make assumptions just because they might share one or even several traits, UNTIL you get to know them at least somewhat.
 
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I think you're conflating prejudice (the act of irrationally presuming traits of something or someone- usually negatively- solely because it is different, unusual, or has a specific appearance without any visible proof otherwise) with acknowleding characterization (Identifying the distinct traits or features of a substance or object through objective data). For example. It's prejudiced to say 'this person is GOING to act like this because they have this trait' when there is literally zero actual proof whatsoever that they are going to do so- folk tales, heresay, and supposition are not empirical data. It is NOT prejudiced to say 'that person will probably kill me' if the vast majority of their specific visible actions are violent, unprompted by outside force, and without hesitation. Yumiella hasn't done anything worthy of negative characterization; in fact it's been shown repeatedly, even in this chapter, that by the standards of this world, she is unusually KIND. Such things are more common than not IRL, too. What people want to say is characterization is really just prejudice, because there's zero way you can simply assuming things about a person; people are too complex and too different to make assumptions just because they might share one or even several traits, UNTIL you get to know them at least somewhat.

the other person's also ignoring the specific context in which Yuminella's saying the line in the first place.
And in that sense, she is 100% correct and the other person's argument falls flat. I'd say that what they're arguing for, is simple critical thinking and awareness of one's perception of the world. Which is wholly different from "prejudice".

As you say, "prejudice" carries a specific meaning, and in the manner used in this chapter, it is arguably always negative and detrimental, and an outdated concept in any sufficiently advanced society that has moved beyond the "subject to the predations of the natural world" stage that the human species has absolutely transcended.
 
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The parts that allowed humans to survive long enough to establish civilization, naturally. The parts that allow humans to continue to survive in a world that is actively trying to kill them. (It's trying to kill everything else, too, so it isn't anything personal)

As to the conditions, varied and many. That is why examination of prejudices is an absolute necessity. If the conditions that brought it about no longer apply (or perhaps in some cases, never applied), then perhaps that prejudice ought to be discarded. A fence built to keep something out only matters if that something exists. If the danger is gone, then maintaining that fence is a waste of time and energy that can be devoted elsewhere.
While yes discrimination stems from something that is or at least has been evolutionarily beneficial, that being fear of the unknown and groupthink. Fear of the unknown is self-explanatory, groupthink is slightly more complex but much more impactful. It gives individuals a strong urge to conform and maintain group harmony, which was a massive advantage for early humans, since surviving was more important than who's right or wrong. It improved group-wide response to emergencies, ensured individual survival by preventing being cast out due to unnecessary internal conflicts, and allowed for saving mental energy by allocating decisions to individuals with experience or specified leader roles.

I would however agree that from a moral perspective it would be true that discrimination comes from the ugliest/ugly parts of the human heart. It's still part of what makes us human and aids our survival, but that doesn't mean that it's necessity isn't a tragedy. For every group of early humans that it helped survive, there are those who have lost their lives to it.

This might just be semantics, but tell me if you agree or not.
 
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The parts that allowed humans to survive long enough to establish civilization, naturally. The parts that allow humans to continue to survive in a world that is actively trying to kill them. (It's trying to kill everything else, too, so it isn't anything personal)

As to the conditions, varied and many. That is why examination of prejudices is an absolute necessity. If the conditions that brought it about no longer apply (or perhaps in some cases, never applied), then perhaps that prejudice ought to be discarded. A fence built to keep something out only matters if that something exists. If the danger is gone, then maintaining that fence is a waste of time and energy that can be devoted elsewhere.
Not sure how discrimination helped people survive enough to establish civilization. Is there an example you have in mind?

Also not sure what you mean by "the world is actively trying to kill them." The world is not a conscious entity, it doesn't actively do anything. Do you mean the world is dangerous?
 

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