Akuyaku Reijou Level 99 ~Watashi wa Ura Boss desuga Maou de wa Arimasen~ - Ch. 25.3

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapters.

 

[Shuzuchi]

So past black haired people are the demon lords? Probably all Japanese people that expected a fun isekai adventure and then got bullied.

 

[rawrma]

Yumi-cutie.

Patrick is getting there, huh? Has he already reached the level of "second-strongest human" at this point?

Yeah, he become second demon lord 😌

 

[Phost]

What vital and essential parts of the human experience? Under what conditions are they needed?

for example the prejudice that a buff guy with a void stare and a knife who walk straight in your direction is a threat.

He may just be a tired bodybuilder who want to help you peel the apple you have in the hand.

It's a stupid example but you get the idea.

 

[UdenEmpati]

for example the prejudice that a buff guy with a void stare and a knife who walk straight in your direction is a threat.

He may just be a tired bodybuilder who want to help you peel the apple you have in the hand.

It's a stupid example but you get the idea.

I'd argue that if you have to resort to a "stupid example", to echo your phrasing, to try and reinforce a given stance, then it didn't have a strong foundation to begin with. having to make up absurd hypotheticals only makes the claim itself that much more nonsensical.

Anyone arguing in favor of "being prejudiced and discriminatory" as being good things, should have actual sourced data and concrete, real-world historical examples that show clear support for such practices being beneficial to a given population. A stance that controversial requires nothing less, if the person arguing in favor of it wants credibility or to be seen as acting in good faith.

And honestly? You'll have to explain how that's "prejudice" in the first place. That's just a one-off instance of potential threat assessment, which isn't the same thing.

 

[REMasher]

Ayy! It's good to see this again!

 

[CountryMage]

What I also love is how this series is presenting how "modern" people's morals are so well developed that others see them as "unusually kind". Which really struct a cord, as one of the things that modern society can boost with pride is how much empathetic we have became after centuries of brutal warfare and bringing the world at the edge of apocalypse.

Well, yeah, but then you watch the news, or read the comments in these forums, where people are calling for war crimes, or outright genocide.

 

[Limanane]

Thank you for the continuation of the TL ✌❤

 

[Wizardrone]

thanks for chapter

Patrick training hard!

 

[Crystalball]

This isn't even discrimination, it's superstition in that it's irrational. Love itself is discriminatory and prejudice exists as a shortcut to deal with the complexity of life, a kind of triage of emotive focus because a person can't bleed for the whole world or meet everyone's expectations, this is why removing the language of discrimination doesn't make people more clear about reality. Nothing can, because the world is more complex and filled with more people than a person can possibly grasp.

 

[medrus_358]

a whole one (1) more chapter, because that's all that's available before we catch back up with the raws...

Whaaaaaaaaaaat? I´m sangry

 

[medrus_358]

Afaik each adaptation went for a different ending

Spoiler

In that timeline, the training montage the heroine underwent was being actively chased through the dungeon by the dolk, to the point that it was no different from a torture to her, and this ended up traumatising her so much that her going for a backstab at that critical moment was understandable if not warranted.
Obviously in this timeline, the training arc went a lot more positively, and so we are in a timeline where the herioine backstabbing the dolk is much less likely to happen

Dolk?

 

[pachingching]

Let's Go Patrick! Training and rebirth arc lets go!

 

[Zhangar]

Hey, it lives. This has such a slow release schedule...

This setting is a little weird because IIRC people's hair is color coded by magic affinity. And since dark magic is rare, that results in dark brown or black hair not being the most common hair color on the planet.

The real prejudice in this setting is against dark magic itself, but having dark hair is allegedly just the visible indicator of having dark magic affinity. I do wonder how many potential dark magic users are having their talent go to waste because no one's willing to train them.

I wonder if the novels go more into the magic system. Does Patrick have gray hair because he has two affinities? IIRC wind is his primary.

 

[SUSmaster274329]

If they're arguing that prejudice has historical import for the human species at a developmental point hundreds of thousands of years in the past, then it's arguing the most pedantic point possible to ends that I'm not sure I want to try and examine.

Prejudice, as people today understand and regularly interact with it, is arguably unneeded and actively detrimental to societal progression and the well-being of populations of people. It's the preconceived notions and presumptions about others based on superficial observations that allows for bigotry and personal & systemic discrimination.
Countering that inarguable fact with "yeah but when there were multiple species of humans running around as hunter/gatherer tribes, it helped them survive" just sounds asinine, because no one here would reasonably expect that to actually matter in the face of contemporary society, and the fact that the manga we're here to discuss isn't dealing with that sort of reality whatsoever.

And the manga itself is presenting prejudice as objectively bad within the framework of its setting and narrative composition.

That other person going "well acktually" starts sounding problematic, the more they're allowed to shift the focus of the conversation away from what's actually relevant and topical."


Like, they themselves reference how discrimination "helped" during a race riot, while seemingly glossing over how prejudice would also be part of the reason the riot happened and subsequent need for protection was necessary. So is prejudice a critical component for the human species, or is it actually the root of the problem with knock-on effects?
Them not focusing on that side of it, to whatever end, makes me question their position all the more.

First of all there was no need for different species of humans to exist simultaneously for the instincts that lead to prejudice to be useful. All it needs to do is create unity and harmony within the group, evolution doesn’t care whether there are any legitimately different species occupying the same niche, even if there were no other groups it would most likely be an evolutionary beneficial mindset.

Also I’m not “countering” the point that discrimination and prejudice is bad. I agree that it’s bad, even in a primitive world I would prefer that humans didn’t evolve to tend towards such behaviour, even if it would’ve helped the species overall.

I’m bringing it up because the original comment did. Discrimination being bad has nothing to do with its origin.

For example if someone is born as a sadistic psychopath that enjoys seeing others harmed, it isn’t their fault in some metaphysical moral sense. However that doesn’t mean that they don’t need to be stopped and stripped of their ability to do harm.

I wouldn’t just say that our instinctive tendency toward prejudice and discrimination can be argued as good or in any way beneficial at all in today’s world. It has no benefit since humans don’t end up in life and death situations, nor do they have the same need to not be alone to survive. These instincts are the roots that sprouted into dogmatic and destructive societies and almost all world-spanning religions. We don’t need it, in fact we should actively work to remove it.

 

[lordb1]

Please don't end like the anime.

 

[IMissU]

It's been a long time since I thought a comment section needed intervention, but this is approaching that line

 

[kaorihikari]

I like the difference in the manga, makes me wonder how it goes, especially for the heroine since they take very different approach from novel nor anime. I really like her relationship with Yumiella, I hope she keep being friends with her

 

[LadyTyche]

Being fearful and prejudiced has always been a hallmark of brutal and warlike cultures. It is maintained through indoctrination. Projecting it onto all humans as a baseline human nature is a cope.

Most people are curious and hospitable towards outsiders, strangers, and even non-human animals.

Glad to see the common internet dork is keeping alive junk British sociology from 3 centuries ago though.

 

[GlitzGlitz]

How did "仲良くしている男がいるのだろう?" ("There is a man you are close to, is there not?") translate to "He probably thinks there's a man I'm close to" on page 11? It makes no sense since it's the king who's speaking (and who's the "He" the king refers to?), especially when seeing you made a question into a affirmation. It's jarring and makes me wonder how much of the rest of the text is a mistranslation when something as obviously wrong passes the proofreading.

Edit: on page 15, you translated "私が死ぬまでには話すことを誓おう" ("I promise to tell the story before I die") into "Until the day I die, I'd rather not speak about it". It's the opposite meaning. I won't search for everything but now I'm sure: that translation is bullshit and doesn't deserve any donation you're asking for. The editing is nice and sentences are in proper English, that's the good thing here, but the first thing to avoid is the translation being contradictory with the original text.

uhhh out of topic, but if I may ask, where can I find the raws for this manga?