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alienussy
Oh ok, why don't you say so? I see why our client wants to kill him.He is a serious villain. He makes a ton of money by having his followers hold fake fundraisers.
Bruh.The client is a man running a similar scam in the same vicinity.
Fuckin wot? Was it literally just the ayy lmao seggs?Erotica tag
It’s because the only reason Drama Queen got this much attention is for the political allegory discourse surrounding it. That goes away and so does a fair bit of the fandom....yes, the humans are not interstellarinvaderssettlers who potentially staged the catastrophe they saved the earth from.
Maybe your expectations would be more apropos if they weren't buttressed on a firm presupposition that the aliens were a direct allegory for migrants or immigrants or the rich or whatever.
Nonamoto watched an alien burn to death, right in front of her, for several minutes without doing anything. Kitami beat an alien to death for hitting him once, and then fed his corpse to Nonamoto.
That all happened in the first chapter.
What do you mean, "they would still kill him because he's an alien"? The very premise is that they hate aliens and want to eat them off the earth.
As a one off visual gag, sureWhy? Anime characters eat mountains of food all the time. Sometimes literally.
Except they're not "foreigners".That's the point, eventually there's gonna come a time when they realize the error of their ways and we all go "hey, foreigners aren't any different from natives, I guess we were being Drama Queens™ all along!"
It only got this much drama because people are fucking simple nowadays and think "Hurr durr, someone is foreign therefore good".It’s because the only reason Drama Queen got this much attention is for the political allegory discourse surrounding it. That goes away and so does a fair bit of the fandom.
He's right though.It only got this much drama because people are fucking simple nowadays and think "Hurr durr, someone is foreign therefore good".
Yeah, ask the native americans how that policy worked for them.
Colonizers are evil by default, ESPECIALLY when they interfere and take over local politics.
Deport them all.
The aliens aren't just aliens, that's pretty obvious from the tone, though the author's specific intent is hard to parse since there's a lot of overlap. I doubt the aliens are meant to be the rich since they're killing random aliens on the street. They aren't just a stand-in for bad or rude people either since they just established that humans can still suck in this narrative.Maybe your expectations would be more apropos if they weren't buttressed on a firm presupposition that the aliens were a direct allegory for migrants or immigrants or the rich or whatever.
You can't say they're stand-ins for "the rich" or "mean people", and you struggle to cast them as "colonizers" (which would be the most likely interpretation if the author was intending social commentary) because you haven't seen aliens in a clear position of power (which is a caricature of colonized societies, anyways-- most people are not going to be in power in any society even if they're the ethnic group in power).The aliens aren't just aliens, that's pretty obvious from the tone, though the author's specific intent is hard to parse since there's a lot of overlap.
Instead of talking about right-wing Japanese artists talking about Kurds running the Japanese government while yourself knowing nothing about the mangaka in question, you should consider the actual premise of the narrative and the situations the main characters are in. The aliens from outer space actually have substantial and overt power in society. Nonamoto got abused at her job by her alien boss, Kitami's family got killed by an alien who wasn't even punished, and both of them wonder whether the aliens saving the earth was a staged job.The MCs also spout pretty standard anti-[insert any maligned ethnic group here] rhetoric, so the aliens could be a stand-in for basically any immigrant group that conspiracy theorists claim run everything behind the scenes. I've seen rightwing Japanese artists panicking that Turks or Kurds secretly run the Japanese government
No, it's because of the way the series is written. Dead Dead Demon's De De De De Destruction is another series set in modern day Tokyo with sapient humanoid aliens, yet the aliens are clearly not allegorical even though they are used to address racist attitudes in society. Even Gantz, which is largely about blowing up illegal alien immigrants with super guns for the entertainment of the rich, doesn't read as allegorically as Drama Queen.There's nothing "obvious from the tone" of the manga itself that necessitates reading the aliens as some allegory-- that's just people imputing political overtones because of culture war shenanigans.
Politics and race existed before 2016. Political manga existed before this. Yattara, currently running in the same magazine, tackles xenophobic nationalism from the exact opposite direction to lampoon it and is overt in doing so. This appears equally overt in the opposite direction.culture war shenanigans.
I am addressing the actual premise. It's why I've come to the conclusion I did. I'm still leaving it up for doubt because it's hard to judge something that's not finished and I don't want to assume much about the author, which is why I left my conclusion open in my initial post.you should consider the actual premise of the narrative and the situations the main characters are in. The aliens from outer space actually have substantial and overt power in society.
One of the aliens he kills on the street makes a comment about his license being suspended, but whether that's meant to show that they're all negligent drivers or that Kitami's belief that they all walk free is wrong is to be seen. Who knows. It's why I left things up in the air with what I said.Kitami's family got killed by an alien who wasn't even punished
You may as well complain that the audience can recognize that the main characters are human beings when they're just anime squiggles on paper or that mutants in X-Men are (poor) allegories for oppression when they're not 1-for-1 match-ups. I can read Promise Neverland without thinking the demons are an allegory for a group of people. This is on the manga's writing, not the audience.This manga is the best. It's outing so many people as the fucking worst racists of our time, by looking at a silly alien squiggle face and then somehow associating it to real groups of people.
Given that they quartered one of their heads in the first chapter and they appear to have no real internal organs or structures, they may be way less dense than a human. I think they're just weaker/flimsier than their size would suggest.I believe this needs asking since we're supposed to believe these two are humans. With that said, how soft are these aliens? Is he strong or are the aliens just cotton candy?
the JP side is now saying the aliens are just the author's stand-in for anything they want to criticize, as they're linking this case to the nippon television donation scam. search 日本テレビ募金詐欺 or 24時間テレビ募金着服 if you're interested. if we're drawing real life parallels, we could also say author is going the classism angle as others have said. this may be a coincidence but notice the author focuses on the shoes of the humans helping with the scam. it sounds silly, but it's common and true that people use the condition/appearance of shoes to evaluate the wealth of others, which i find a bit dumb since most of us are passing strangers who may never meet again but if everyone was rational the world wouldn't be the state it's in.The aliens aren't just aliens, that's pretty obvious from the tone, though the author's specific intent is hard to parse since there's a lot of overlap. I doubt the aliens are meant to be the rich since they're killing random aliens on the street. They aren't just a stand-in for bad or rude people either since they just established that humans can still suck in this narrative.
This leaves them as obvious foreigners, but I don't think the anti-colonial/imperialist aspect really works yet since the two MCs are losers and, despite what they've said, we haven't really seen the aliens in a clear position of power outside of PR compared to the average human. The MCs also spout pretty standard anti-[insert any maligned ethnic group here] rhetoric, so the aliens could be a stand-in for basically any immigrant group that conspiracy theorists claim run everything behind the scenes. I've seen rightwing Japanese artists panicking that Turks or Kurds secretly run the Japanese government, so I'm not sure the anti-colonial aspect of this is in good faith.