Eroge Tensei - Unmei ni Aragau Kane Buta Kizoku no Funtouki - Ch. 19

[whermit]

I mean if you get summoned to the capital by a big shot form the kingdom can you REALLY just ignore it? Its not like he just waltzed in there cuz he wanted to.

 

[Amogh24]

What happened in the web novel?

So i didn't bother reading the whole thing, but there's a part where

Spoiler: NTR warning

his maid ends up falling in love withthe hero while mc was on the front lines of the monster fight, and she leaves the mc to serve the hero, while the mc talks about how the hero is better and gets heartbroken.

There's basically the mc constantly blaming himself and being punished for actions that occurred before he took over the body.

 

[Maverun]

...where is that damn sexy master, I miss her .... When you gonna show up...

 

[Adun87]

So i didn't bother reading the whole thing, but there's a part where

Spoiler: NTR warning

his maid ends up falling in love withthe hero while mc was on the front lines of the monster fight, and she leaves the mc to serve the hero, while the mc talks about how the hero is better and gets heartbroken.

There's basically the mc constantly blaming himself and being punished for actions that occurred before he took over the body.

It's sounding a lot like this manga isn't going to get better.

 

[ZeroBADartS]

ok I just read this on Reddit about the Web Novel
does Sheira really fall in love with the Hero and leaves with him...

 

[ZeroBADartS]

So i didn't bother reading the whole thing, but there's a part where

Spoiler: NTR warning

his maid ends up falling in love withthe hero while mc was on the front lines of the monster fight, and she leaves the mc to serve the hero, while the mc talks about how the hero is better and gets heartbroken.

There's basically the mc constantly blaming himself and being punished for actions that occurred before he took over the body.

I just asked this after just seeing it on Reddit, god damn it I just wanna drop this trash now

 

[Amogh24]

It's sounding a lot like this manga isn't going to get better.

The manga ends at chapter 25, after a short tournament arc, so there isn't much left to be series. Just a few more chapters of everyone hating him and self hatred.

 

[Amogh24]

I just asked this after just seeing it on Reddit, god damn it I just wanna drop this trash now

I also find this series to be trash. This guy just gets degraded through the series for no fault of his own, and the author somehow thinks that's interesting and fun. This series might have made more sense if he had actually committed those evil acts before regaining his memories, but as it stands, it's just misery porn.

 

[TrueWarriorJak]

I just asked this after just seeing it on Reddit, god damn it I just wanna drop this trash now

Hey actual web novel reader here this is being taken way outta context

Spoiler: webnovel spoilers

The maid was never treated as a love interest to Leo so I don't why people are going he got ntred when he never saw her that way. Leo has other love interests that are honestly way more interesting then the boring maid. The Princess for one and the Strongest Witch in the world, she figures out that the MC isn't actually the original Leo and is a isekai'd person so she gets to know the real him and knows he was innocent of anything the og Leo did.

 

[xaraphina]

QC just stamping approved and moving on lol

Also, guy's an idiot. Just ghost the bitch and move on. None of her emo bitching is his fault or problem. She's just mad that her crush is focused on another girl and she'll never get a chance with him. If anything, he just moved things along a little faster. If they were so susceptible to petty gossip then they were easy prey anyone could have taken down at anytime they wanted. Feels bad and all, but can't spend your life walking backwards or you might end up with an ear of corn up your ass.

 

[asdman]

I just asked this after just seeing it on Reddit, god damn it I just wanna drop this trash now

After reading the spoilers. I really don't want to be stuck at the same loop of this shit. Probably will drop it as well.

 

[someunregpunk]

What an annoying chapter. For the length of the whole chapter I was just waiting for Leold to tell Erina to keep her forked tongue behind her teeth. But of course the previous chapter, where Leold was unable to lift a finger to defend the saintess, already revealed he's lacking the kind of spirit you need to confront hostile people. He's feeling far too deeply Leold's past sins. They aren't his. He should just look at them purely objectively, with zero conscience since they weren't his misdeeds. Yet this scene looked 100% like Sendou Makoto himself would have been responsible. I have said before that he can't escape the consequences since he just happens to have Leold's body and identity now, but he doesn't need to get emotional about it, no more than a man falsely accused and sent to a prison would feel responsible for the crime someone else did.

Korean versions of transmigration tend to follow that. Japanese tend to wallow in this crap like pig in mud, they just love that type drama even though it's pretty crap drama.

 

[chojinra]

Who the hell wrote this translation? Did they locate the world’s most pompous thesaurus and just went with it?

 

[BlackElite]

His punishment is already laid out. Whatever happened after the punishment is not his problem. It's indeed cruel, but isn't that how society in its' fuckery works? To keep the talented and powerful stay, truth and rumours will be muddled for profit.

 

[onionskins]

Sad to be the mc, imagine you were reincarnated as isekai epstein

 

[Niftykoala]

It's not empathy that's the problem, you are over simplifying it.


Again, the problem isn't empathy or a lack thereof. You can be empathetic without being crushed by the actions of someone else. It might be the body he inhabits but he acts like he's the one who personally did everything and that's the problem. If you suddenly woke up in the body of someone else, someone bad, you'd feel sorry and empathize with the victims, but you'd never act like you yourself were the problem.

You would not go "OH DEAR ME! WHAT HAVE I DONE!? OH IF ONLY I HADN'T DONE THAT! AND IF THAT OTHER THING HADN'T HAPPENED!"

The reason has nothing to do with one's ability to empathize but with the fact there is a psychological distance between the two inhabitants of the body, one that literally cannot be overcome due to him knowing full well he's in a different body.

There is no reason he can't look at his host's old life and think "Wow, that's terrible" and then be confident in the fact he can and will do better. There's no reason he can't go "Dang, this is terrible. Leold really made a mess of things!" or when parts of it aren't his fault, he can simply say "I'm sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry about everything that has happened, but I have nothing to do with that. You can't blame me for everything just because it's convenient. I'm doing my best with the chance I've been given and that's what I plan to continue to do."

Being empathetic doesn't require you to be a wimp with a martyr complex.

By doing what he is doing...he quite literally and directly thinking "How am I going to fix 'this guy's' mistakes and actions? How can I right his wrongs?"

The thing is no one sees the MC. They see the golden pig. It is not convenient...it is the reality.

Even if you consider him a martyr...what is YOUR alternative?
Run away from his past?
Pretend he has amnesia?
Flip off the princess and everyone in the capital, and get booted out kingdom by the King?

Congratulations he'd now be removed from even the boonies and can no longer make any changes for the better there even.

So you don't like him as a martyr. Fine. Hate reading series is also a thing.🙈 Complaning about what you dislike is fine too.🙊
You don't have to listen to what the authors and artists are trying to say.🙉 That's a choice too.

Anyways... You made your argument, I have made mine. People will like/dislike what they will. Later.

 

[Meridis]

So i didn't bother reading the whole thing, but there's a part where

Spoiler: NTR warning

his maid ends up falling in love withthe hero while mc was on the front lines of the monster fight, and she leaves the mc to serve the hero, while the mc talks about how the hero is better and gets heartbroken.

There's basically the mc constantly blaming himself and being punished for actions that occurred before he took over the body.

Basically what TrueWarriorJak said. Don't treat any random cute girl that shows up as a harem member or a potential one. It's supposed to be that the protagonist is building his own harem alongside the mc and his is much larger though lower quality. The mc has actual chemistry with the girls he has a relationship with rather than just being there.

 

[Hitspark]

By doing what he is doing...he quite literally and directly thinking "How am I going to fix 'this guy's' mistakes and actions? How can I right his wrongs?"

The thing is no one sees the MC. They see the golden pig. It is not convenient...it is the reality.

As stated before the problem is that he is expressly seen several times taking what Leold did to the chest as if it was his mistake. He is not acting like a separate character, he's often times acting like he is Leold instead of someone inside Leold.

Even if you consider him a martyr...what is YOUR alternative?
Run away from his past?
Pretend he has amnesia?
Flip off the princess and everyone in the capital, and get booted out kingdom by the King?

Congratulations he'd now be removed from even the boonies and can no longer make any changes for the better there even.

"You can't blame me because it's convenient" was already in the post as an alternative option to just taking the blame to the face, so I don't know where this line of questioning even comes from. It really seems like you just wanted to reply to something. You can be stern but fair without being a dick. It aint that tough, chief. He just needs to stop being walked on simply because it's the most convenient option. There's no reason he has to be like that, he's choosing to do so.

So you don't like him as a martyr. Fine. Hate reading series is also a thing.🙈 Complaning about what you dislike is fine too.🙊
You don't have to listen to what the authors and artists are trying to say.🙉 That's a choice too.

Several people in this very forum have pointed out that he's taking the blame for things he had nothing to do with and getting verbally abused without any sort pushback even when he's in the right or has the right. So whatever you think the author is trying to say, they've said it poorly.

Anyways... You made your argument, I have made mine. People will like/dislike what they will. Later.

All you did was show up, reply at me for not liking it the way it was handled, ignoring the validity of the criticisms in the post you're responding to and then tried to act smug about it. This wasn't an argument, you were rambling, my guy.

 

[KJon]

So now he's supposed to be responsible for others' actions that he didn't ask for as well? What? This series has been going downhill for quite a few chapters now

 

[MisterMango]

So now he's supposed to be responsible for others' actions that he didn't ask for as well? What? This series has been going downhill for quite a few chapters now

Makes more sense with chapter 20. But if you're frustrated I don't think much will change, other than it ending abruptly.