Eroi Koto Suru Tame ni Kyonyuu Bishoujo Dorei o Katta Hazu ga, Oshishou-sama to Shitawa Rete Omotta Toori ni Ikanaku Naru Hanashi - Vol. 4 Ch. 20 - T…

[smormu]

Amor immediately went for the ear rubbies, she knows what she’s doing

 

[WereMuppet]

"There's no such thing as self defence for monsters"
Screw you b!tch, self defence is self defence no matter who does it, a power/skill/ability isn't "evil/bad" unless you use it for that purpose, if you attack first then you're the aggressor and have zero right to complain about the reprocussions.

You're just as stupid as the "zero tolerance for violence" schools that punish victims for defending themselves because you're too fvcking lazy/incompetent to do something about the aggressors.

 

[Manchura]

step 1: enslave her

step 2: make her unable to break free

step 3: get a loicense

step 4: change the law to make illegal activity legal

step 5: she is saved and will be grateful to you!


this is so convoluted and impossible dumb it cant be rea- US democratic party history

 

[rotationplus]

Halo’s name has loli in it twice

Also she told us her name in chapter 1, why are people acting like this is new information?

If they make an improved slave magic and legalize it there will probably be a lot of succubus sex slaves. Since human slavery is already legal in their world I doubt this would make it any more prolific. Think about how prolific slavery was without magic in the Roman Empire, Middle East, Eastern Europe, Brazil, Caribbean etc.

if they make the slavery totally permanent slavers will be free to get way more awful to the people they enslave. It could go to the levels of chattel slavery like the Americas did, where they make the children of the enslaved people enslaved from birth, instead of having to do it to criminals or prisoners of war. they would end up systematically erase the unpopular sentient enemies' freedom with a way more efficient method.

things will definitely go to hell.

 

[smormu]

if they make the slavery totally permanent slavers will be free to get way more awful to the people they enslave. It could go to the levels of chattel slavery like the Americas did, where they make the children of the enslaved people enslaved from birth, instead of having to do it to criminals or prisoners of war. they would end up systematically erase the unpopular sentient enemies' freedom with a way more efficient method.

things will definitely go to hell.

Filia was sold into slavery by her mother, she’s not a POW, they already have chattel slavery.

You seem to be under the impression that the people in the old world didn’t practice chattel slavery in the same way they did in America, but this is false. a Roman slave owner could rape, beat or starve their slaves and would own their children too. There were some forms of debt slavery or contractual slavery where the slaves had some rights, but most slaves were literally property, often people kidnapped by pirates or the children of slaves.

I suspect that the narrative that American slavery was totally different and worse than the kinds of slavery you saw in the old world is leftist historical revisionism to try and make black people look more deserving of reparations and sympathy by making what happened to them a special kind of evil different from what happened to slaves in the Middle East or Europe and not par for the course in history. If it wasn’t then the conversation about reparations gets messy, then would the Turks have to pay reparations to their Balkan and Caucasian former subjects whom they enslaved? Would the Poles have to pay reparations to their Belorussian and Ukrainian former subjects? It gets really messy.

Serfdom and slavery are generally not the same thing, a lord does not literally own his serfs. A lord couldn’t legally sell his serfs or kill them on a whim. He probably could actually, murder used to be extremely easy to get away with and common, but it wasn’t legal. Serfdom in Eastern Europe however bore more resemblance to slavery. Serfs in Poland Lithuania or Russia could legally be raped, killed, conscripted into the military for life. Generally it was better to be a slave in America than a serf in Poland Lithuania since America has such an abundance of food that even slaves could expect to eat better than people in places like Ireland or Belarus.

Holy shit am I ranting too much, I could go on about the economics of slave importation in Brazil, the reason why despite importing far more Africans the Middle East doesn’t have large black populations like America, Korean slavery and a bunch of other stuff, but I’ll get back to the world of Halo and friends.

Slavery in their fantasy world has probably gotten as prolific as it will. The discovery of a new resource which requires a lot of hard labor or the discovery of a population genetically distinct from the humans in this world would be far more likely to profligate slavery. It seems that only the most dangerous monsters cannot be kept as slaves, so it would really just be succubi who would become available for ownership.

 

[SpringLily]

Wrapping some speculation stuff in a spoiler since I've seen every chapter, albeit untranslated. I don't know if they're actually spoilers since I don't know Japanese.

thanks for the chapter

personally I don't think creating a perfect slave contract that can't be broken is good for anyone. Srsly, what's with Japanese authors and their obsession with having legal slaves?

My guess is the slavery stuff is an authority/control extension of the power fantasy trope. It's probably common in writing due to the prevalence of power-trip isekai and other works deconstructing the trope. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if there's cultural stuff at play too. I've heard maid cafes are meant to fulfill this type of fantasy, but I'm no expert.

Spoiler: Informed speculation

Probably safe to say, but I think this work falls under the "deconstructing" umbrella. I think it's fundamentally a found-family story that explores power dynamic tropes in an isekai setting.

"You can have your monster child but you have to be instrument in reinforcing the institution of slavery so it's permanent" is not the faustian bargain I was expecting

This took me by surprise too. I thought this was a completely wholesome chapter until I translated it.

Spoiler: Informed speculation

I think Espada is essentially treating Amor like a big red button that any mage could press for five seconds to release a feral lion. My hope is that permanent slavery is impossible and Espada will be content with a more secure removal process.

Are we going to ignore the sheer insanity that is "there is not such thing is self-defense" and "if she tried to save herself from being murdered, I would have staked my life on murdering her" on top of all the other BS?

Ms. Guildmaster really should not have left that room alive.

Spoiler: Informed speculation

I interpreted Espada's "no self-defense" talk as a warning to manage Halo's expectations. From a literary framing, this line is meant to inform the reader about how the town would react to Amor's charm. It's definitely a horrible thing to say, but it's probably important for Halo (and the reader) to hear.

Espada's actions were terrible, but they could have saved the guild if Amor was hostile. From her point of view, Amor could have been trying to amass an army and already charmed two of her strongest units. If she gained control of Espada, then she would have indirect control of the guild and another presumably strong fighter. This was probably too dangerous to risk inaction.

Remember that succubi are a priority-one threat for a reason. Their charm is essentially used enslave people as well, but it is easier to apply, it is used for reproduction instead of labor, and it leads to addiction, brain-rot, and death. I completely agree with your moral objections, but Halo put her in an incredibly dangerous position.