Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Vol. 12 Ch. 83

[sakaay]

damn least the orc has a happy time in this story

 

[PhasmoKnight]

Sucks that you went through that, but if rape is too far, for you in a manga where people are murdered, tortured, and made to eat their family members then you need to get some help.

Nah you are the one who needs to get help bud

 

[MacKnight]

is it really counted as a revenge if in the end the goddess is enjoying it tho?

my body, my body is telling me YEEES, but ma mind, is yelling NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

[custynee]

 

[Bel-Shug]

the fact she feels good when she doesn't want to is the point

Yeah, just like Raoul. That's why this is the revenge method chosen.

 

[jonsmth]

I swear to God. I'm done. I can't believe people find this shit okay. It's not. I can't believe I defended this manga before as being better than redo when it's just as bad. Call me a 'sNOwfLake' or whatever but as and actual sa survivor this makes me sick. Rape is never okay, no matter what you've done. Roul has become just as bad as his rapist, because he actively made the decision to rape someone else. Even if not by his hand. I now know the author has never actually been through something as traumatic as being raped or if they have they clearly haven't gotten the proper help they need to work it out. God, I wish redo never came out. If it never existed the real revenge manga wouldn't turn into degenerate rape porn for deranged "mEn oF cUlTurE" who never leave their mom's basements.

Why of all the depictions of SA in this manga, orc sex is where you draw the line? Not the gangbangs? Not the sodomy?

If this disturbed you that much, then I guess the orc was actually effective.

Also, Raoul enacting vengeance isn't supposed to be "good". What makes him different from Keyaru is that he never took advantage of his revenge targets.

 

[Rin2k]

aww, they're disgustingly made for each other!.


on a side note, people have to stop getting their jimmies so rustled over a revenge porn type of series. It's not healthy.

 

[Nivial]

I swear to God. I'm done. I can't believe people find this shit okay. It's not. I can't believe I defended this manga before as being better than redo when it's just as bad. Call me a 'sNOwfLake' or whatever but as and actual sa survivor this makes me sick. Rape is never okay, no matter what you've done. Roul has become just as bad as his rapist, because he actively made the decision to rape someone else. Even if not by his hand. I now know the author has never actually been through something as traumatic as being raped or if they have they clearly haven't gotten the proper help they need to work it out. God, I wish redo never came out. If it never existed the real revenge manga wouldn't turn into degenerate rape porn for deranged "mEn oF cUlTurE" who never leave their mom's basements.

I don't think anyone is reading the haha funny edge series for the lewds. There's better series, games, anime, everything for that, even in the same genre. Also if you can't write about specific scenarios in fiction because it might upset people what's the point in fiction period.

 

[Nivial]

Everything else aside, Orc-san's eloquence is pretty hilarious to me.

Buhi-desuwa

 

[TheGodEmperor]

I do still think the censorship is pointless. Do love how the art is drawn in a way to not make this attractive. So it definitely is horrific as it should be

 

[0Zion]

I'm so conflicted right now. The goddess is a piece of shit, but that was just as bad as what happened to Raoul. Well, I guess he saw the goddess as that repulsive orc hence the eye for an eye. Also with the spell to feel good. I don't know. If feels disgusting and not really a fulfilling revenge to view through third person. That was just I don't know.

 

[thegoatrider]

What do we say to this legitimately wtf

When the mc said an eye for an eye, he meant rape for rape

 

[HYBRID_BEING]

i remembered why i dropped this shit 2 years ago

See you in 2 years, then, lol.

 

[Paradox_ult]

Author's a woman.

If making goddess an orc, that wouldn't really get Raoul's point across, would it? Orcs aren't weak either; she could go around raping dudes, and there are ways to get a guy up, regardless of her appearance.

Besides, it's a physiological reaction to enjoy sex, despite the rape part. Resistance wavers given enough time; our bodies can't help it, unless we're being harmed pretty badly.



"An eye for an eye": She made Raoul enjoy it with someone he didn't love using her magic when he was shackled up and helpless.
He 180s it on her: She's now enjoying it with someone she doesn't love, while also under the effects of magic and shackled up and helpless.



There's a literal round table of gods. Together they summoned him plus the previous otherworlders, and gambled with their lives.

"Physological reaction to enjoy rape"

that is literal classic rape apologism, thats literally the crux of "well is it really rape if they enjoy it"? does it mean that roals experiance is lesser because he was forced to enjoy it?

"eye for an eye" since when? this series wears that moniker but makes a blatent mockery of it.
"I raped and killed you" to "Im going to have you get gang raped, crucify you, then force you to stay alive as rats, maggots and bugs feast upon your flesh for the rest of your newly immortal life"

her new existence is now getting raped by an orc in a dank celler for their immortal life, not really an eye for and eye.

it would get the point across. orcs are filthy, disgusting, unloveable, reviled, avoided, diseased and hated creatures of the world that has gotten to the point where mages and warriors can almost easily deal with them. the goddess values the fact that she is in some way loveable due to their beauty, that they can force "love" through their magic. making her a magicless orc makes her see the terror and disgust and revulsion in the eyes of all that behold her except for creatures of the same horrific stature.

Instead we get an ugly bastard hentai because the author, Who Is A Guy https://twitter.com/manimani_o has no idea how to refer to rape as anything aside from a fetish, this includes experiances roal goes through and this includes the other revenge targets.

yes i know its trash but i want to engage with some level of critical thought with the story as it is presented if they are going to present to us, the reading audience a story. the story presents an idea, an eye for an eye, Tit for Tat and then delivers nothing, whipping up brand new people to exact revenge upon, pulling from the deep recesses of its ass brand new excuses to do worse and worse to people not because it fits the story but because it fits the edgy wants of the author and their fetish for gross out sadomasochisms. something that is blatantly apparent throughout each depiction of assault, with each revenge target inevitably "Falling to pleasure" despite it being proven time and time again that Rape Dosent Feel Good, but in hentai with plot land, it has to because if its depicted as it actually is, the readers may not be able to bust it to this chapter.

 

[saifors]

Honestly, we've seen worse forms of revenge in this manga.
Although I guess this is the one that would be actually effective on her.

 

[Tastastix]

Ok but why is the orc the most polite and sweet character so far???? I am in conflict

 

[Edenmanga]

That's what i was thinking. Feel like Raoul gone easy on her making her enjoying it.


Sucks to be you. But creativity cannot be contained by people's trauma. You cannot expect to never see a spider in a manga just cause arachnophobia exist. Is this attempt to turn media into a padded safe space where there is no pointy corners on the furnitures, the windows are paintings of gardens, and the TV only show teletubbies, that is at the foundation of the woke dark age.
You cannot make a theme or situation disappear just cause it trigger YOU.

Like Ive seen so many comments like this trying to justify portraying rape as revenge a good or worth it or whatever the fuck when it's clear they have never actually suffered from such a experience like that. If calling out a horrible portrayal of a genuinely horrific experience is being a "snowflake" to you I know that you have never actually experienced this shit. Literally in my previous comment i said that the only good portrayal I've seen was berserk which portrays it as the horrible act it is and not some disgusting jerk off material. This isn't me trying to turn this into a "sAfe sPaCe" or whatever, it's me trying to point out that as someone who has actually suffered from actually being violated that this is a horrific portrayal isn't warranted and the fact you people keep trying to defend it is really telling.

 

[Haezer]

I'd love to be punished like this, too 😞😞

This type of comment you'd see in R34

 

[Edenmanga]

Okay then. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. By the way, both Redo of Healer and this are written by women, and the protagonists aren't portrayed as being good people by any sense of the word.


Japanese Pornography laws.


Revenge isn't done, because the other gods were also involved in his summoning.

So being written by a woman (which is completely unture a quick Google search tells you that the one who wrote redo is a man) somehow frees them from criticism for writing degenerate rape fantasy porn? If they have enough frontal lobe developement to portray roul's rape as the horrific act it is, then why can't they use just 2% more of their brain to understand that a actual survivor wouldn't fucking want to become a rapist???? Like, maybe fantasizing or thinking about it happens, people cope in different ways, but actually sending someone to get raped? Willingly sending someone to suffer the same way they did and thinking somehow in their mind it's justified when in reality it isn't? I literally heralded this series as being better the shitdo of healer because Roul wasn't a degenerate cuck who jerks off to raping people, and actually was creative in how he tortured others by hitting them where it hurts and showing their hypocrisy. Rape is the fucking line because if rape coincidencly happened to a rapist, it hard to feel bad for, but to actively inflict that onto others and sexualize it so degens can jerk off? Just the fact they tried to humanize the orc literally is proof the author has frontal lobe damage. Does it hurt your feefees when someone actively criticizes a horrible part of your favorite manga for being gross? Grow up.

 

[Francis]

This once was a manga about the Hero who got betrayed, looking for revenge.
Where can you even go after killing a God & SAing another?