Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 133

[LecherousLeech]

Unless it was complete domination or mind control, all of this is just a waste of time of attempting to redeem Victoria.

Not necessarily. This arc doesn’t have to be in service of redemption. It could also be a story of tragedy—how circumstances lead to despicable outcomes.

 

[Zhangar]

Hey, if all humans had no restraint and all of our first ideas were a go ahead, humanity would be even more fucked than it already is. It's called Impulsive Thoughts, nearly all humans have them, but our restraints is what stops us from doing them.

This.

Impulse control can easily make the difference between a normal person and a criminal. Or a weirdo and an absolute fucking monster.

Even most sociopaths still have self-control.

Having an outside force make you listen to the Call of the Void would have disastrous results.

And so our question with Victoria becomes - if the goddess had simply left her alone, would she have had the self-control to not do all of the horrible shit she did? Or is she truly her father's daughter?

 

[BakaData]

It's the Japanese: "People are only bad if something bad happens to them." idea.

Reality is that it's a mix of nature and nurture. And people are responsible for the choice they make. (OTOH, in our world we don't have evil goddesses possessing us and making us do evil shit.)

not a colonial trying to say what reality really is

 

[omatic]

I'm among the many who have hated on reality TV shows, but a significant number of 'evil queen' stories could be avoided if they could just watch and gossip about The Real Housewives or something.

 

[Danny1238]

Prepare to cry. Glad I brought my onions

 

[Danny1238]

opened this chapter while listening to some music and the contents made me feel so bad it actually soured the music and I felt like I had to stop it. God damn it why do I still read this, although getting Victoria's backstory is making me rethink a lot of stuff so at least it wasn't all negative. At the end of the day, she and her mother were just as much victims of the royal family as a lot of other people in the story, and I do wonder if seeing all that will make Raoul view her any differently or change what he had planned for her

I’m pretty sure he already knows all this. He’s a god now so I’m pretty sure he knows. He even said he “might” forgive her out of all the people that wronged him. Doesn’t mean he will or has a reason too.

 

[Nivek]

This chapter feel straight some old shojo/otome

 

[dowiet]

male? female? I can't tell 😔
Well if there ever was a doubt in your mind this family is absolutely fucking insane.

 

[DaBlackMamba]

Nooooo I don't wanna feel bad for Victoriaaaaaaa, I wanna keep hating her but she's breaking me!

 

[OogieBoogie]

Okay look, I do get what the author is going for here. A redemption for Victoria to show Raoul (and us) that even though she did horrible things, she's a product of her upbringing (and the goddess' influence.)

Here's the thing......

It is far too late for this. Raoul has repeatedly been shown not to give a damn about the factors that lead to damnation, just the acts the person has committed. One could objectively say each target of his wrath thought they were in the right all along, and then this whole revenge manga gets twisted. Victoria may have been influenced, but she didn't appear to have a single shred of remorse until after she had been repeatedly tortured beyond human levels. That's not really remorse, that's fear of repercussions.

Again, I get the lesson, but this is like saying a genocidal general should be looked at in a better light because they were abused as a kid. Cool backstory, but ultimately just filler.

 

[Rogulair]

I can only hope that author gets over with this stupid Victoria Whitewashing Arc as soon as possible so that we could now move on to more important stuff, like the Raul vs Parthenon Gods and shit.

Don't be that kind of person who only enjoys the first few and last few chapters... Although there will be hell for her to pay, isn't child Victoria adorable enough to make you root for her? I wanna see if there is any redeemable quality left in her, honest.

 

[cosmicbiscuit]

Even if it's a flashback, there's no way she would know of her mother's past, wouldn't she?

It looks like the crystal ball thingy is supposed to show everything whether she remembers/knows it or not, so maybe she's learning how shitty her birth background was along with the rest of us.

 

[lolfacesayshi]

Yeah but just saying "Oh she was possessed, and look she was treated horribly aswell!" way after it happened isnt gonna make people lose the disgust they garnered for her for many many chapters.

Honestly it's been far too long, and they've all faced Raoul's punishments. Like some mentioned, she's literally been eaten by bugs ever since her judgement up to now.

If the aggrieved party says she's cleared, why should I hold a grudge? And besides, it's not like she's being let free. She's now being used as a tool for revenge against the king, as his last surviving (such as it is) heir.

 

[LilHoodie]

So is it Charis or Karis?

 

[alto129]

i will say it again, this manga is good at toying their readers

 

[Dubbman11]

Okay look, I do get what the author is going for here. A redemption for Victoria to show Raoul (and us) that even though she did horrible things, she's a product of her upbringing (and the goddess' influence.)

Here's the thing......

It is far too late for this. Raoul has repeatedly been shown not to give a damn about the factors that lead to damnation, just the acts the person has committed. One could objectively say each target of his wrath thought they were in the right all along, and then this whole revenge manga gets twisted. Victoria may have been influenced, but she didn't appear to have a single shred of remorse until after she had been repeatedly tortured beyond human levels. That's not really remorse, that's fear of repercussions.

Again, I get the lesson, but this is like saying a genocidal general should be looked at in a better light because they were abused as a kid. Cool backstory, but ultimately just filler.

I hear what you're saying, but what if her remorse came after Raoul killed the goddess? Remember, she was still being eaten alive while he dealt with Christina and the goddess, so what if, after he got rid of them, the goddess's power over her broke, and, in a way, her humanity came back? Then she fully realized what she had done and was horrified.

I still have trouble pinpointing just how much was fully her fault and how much was Christina's and the goddess's. This was so much easier when Victoria was evil for the sake of being evil. Instead, she was evil because a horny saintess and goddess messed with her head.

 

[Grailm]

Did you also spend many, many months in a constant state of being eaten alive both inside and out?

I'm not saying what she did is ok, but its not like she has gotten off with a slap on the wrist.

...and. Considering what she did and how many innocents she tortured and killed. She deserves what she got. That absolves nothing. If she wasnt being portrayed with this oh so sad backstory, you wouldnt care. Take the backstory away and how is she any different than all the other people who have been targets of Raouls vengeance for what they did.

 

[Dimswitch]

Im glad victoria getting redemption, maybe the sister would back and she would properly apologizes to her.

not really a spoiler but just my personal belief.

Spoiler

🤔 but what if it wasnt actually Victoria who ordered to kill his sister? What if it was Theodora's fatal mistake for taking revenge on Raoul by killing his sister too? 'an eye for an eye' and if I remember correctly, Theodora is a weak af that can only do transformation magic. did she transformed as Vicky to avenge her sister? this manga is full of twist. this one might be the possibility. and I just realized that Theo is just a female version of Raoul.

 

[Skyblue454]

Damnit! Even though that dancing is cute and she's a victim of circumstances, I won't give in.

 

[blulaz]

RIP miss attendant.