Hajirau Kimi ga Mitainda - Ch. 62.1 - Scouting

[Litreara]

Because unfortunately these people are the real life example of the worst and usually undeserved prejudices that people have of otakus: terminally online and inside their own asses / bubble so deep, they lack even the most basic real life experiences. That lone is not the problem, but they have an ego unfitting for their low reasoning capabilities. If they weren't old enough to be working and having a low IQ insult sprees every time someone confronts them with the glaring holes in their perception, I'd pity them. Real life losers, and that's not an insult, sadly.

I pity you for writing this supercilious comment just because people don't agree with you.

 

[Galder]

First: We don't know exactly which alcoholic beverage she mixed into the juice and we also don't know the alcohol/juice ratio. Let's say she used vodka in a 50/50 ratio. From the panel I would say that he is holding a 200 ml paper cup and with the mixture in a 50/50 ratio he could have drunk 100 ml of vodka. Drinking 100 ml of vodka is more than enough to prevent you from driving in many countries and depending on height, weight and other factors it can make someone drunk. But like I said, we don't know which alcoholic beverage and what proportion she used.

Second: As long as the author doesn't close the can of worms she opened (even if it's something preposterous and without any consequences like them talking and making up), don't expect people to stop bringing up the subject.

first: why the hell are you defaulting to vodka lmao. like, the whole thing would taste like cough syrup and he'd immediately notice (especially since vodka has little to no taste/flavor of its own and you'd get pure ethanol flavor). not to mention the amount: no sane person mixes this shit 50/50 (in a bar or otherwise).
also, since fruit based alcohol seems to be popular in japan, it was probably something like mikanshu since you can see a mandarin/orange on the bottle (drinking fruit-based alcohol instead of fruit juice is a manga staple at this point). and from what i've seen on a sales site here: https://www.uisuki.com/en/other-fruits
they seem to have a rather low alcohol content of ~ 6 to 12 %vol. if it's that low, he might actually not notice the alcohol and won't get drunk either if he drinks one glass of that stuff.

second: based on this and the other things i said before, i'd conclude that there never was a can of worms opened. it's just some freaks losing their shit over nothing and not giving it a rest.

Because unfortunately these people are the real life example of the worst and usually undeserved prejudices that people have of otakus: terminally online and inside their own asses / bubble so deep, they lack even the most basic real life experiences. That lone is not the problem, but they have an ego unfitting for their low reasoning capabilities. If they weren't old enough to be working and having a low IQ insult sprees every time someone confronts them with the glaring holes in their perception, I'd pity them. Real life losers, and that's not an insult, sadly.

that was legit funny. have a thumbs up!

 

[Litreara]

first: why the hell are you defaulting to vodka lmao. like, the whole thing would taste like cough syrup and he'd immediately notice (especially since vodka has little to no flavor of its own and you'd get pure ethanol flavor).

I used vodka as an example because it has a high alcohol content and is often used in drinks because it has a neutral taste.

not to mention the amount: no sane person mixes this shit 50/50 (in a bar or otherwise).

Does she really seem like a sane person to you? Is giving alcohol to a minor and having sex with him something a sane person would do?

also, since fruit based alcohol seems to be popular in japan, it was probably something like mikanshu since you can see a mandarin/orange on the bottle (drinking fruit-based alcohol instead of fruit juice is a manga staple at this point). and from what i've seen on a sales site here: https://www.uisuki.com/en/other-fruits
they seem to have a rather low alcohol content of ~ 6 to 12 %vol. if it's that low, he might actually not notice the alcohol and won't get drunk either if he drinks one glass of that stuff.

Like I said, we don't know what she gave him. All we know is that she said it was juice. Just as I gave you a hypothetical, this is also a hypothetical.

second: based on this and the other things i said before, i'd conclude that there never was a can of worms opened. it's just some freaks losing their shit over nothing and not giving it a rest.

It may be like that for you, but for others it is not. People aren't "freaks" just because they don't agree with you.

 

[Loliconi]

why the frigg are ppl still going on about this crap?? like a commenter posted in the original chapter already, there's NO WAY IN HELL even a teenager would get drunk from that pitiful amount of booze he ingested. he might get a bit tipsy at best. meaning he was FULLY AWARE of what happened. hell, he even commented on how he gave in to her advances. so this whole discussion is really retarded tbh.
and if you're in the age range this manga is meant for (young seinen, so ~ ages 18 - 25), you should have had your own experiences with alcohol and should be able to confirm.

She went on top of him while he was asleep, his intention was to get a good nights sleep after work. "What is... she doing...?" "Ugh, my head is spinning (everything distorted, his pov)". She says "these days, some alcohol are made to taste just like juice" indicating that he did indeed drink one too many. Also, he is a teen, this is his very first time drinking from what we know so his tolerance is low (+ possibly genetics).
She, the adult, is then forcing a kiss on him while knowing the state he is in. She engaged it ALL.

Sorry, mister rape apologist!! You might want to get your hentai mind out of the gutter and see this for what it actually is. "Every guy would've loved this!" Bruh. He clearly had a problem with it after processing and fully understanding what had transpired. Why do you feel so strongly about people commenting on what factually did happen in the manga, lmao? Calm the fuck down. This is a western comment section with people from all ages that discuss what they see and the outcome of that discussion might be different than japanese (or other) ones (as is the case many times) but I cba to check so this is just some might be arguement. Might be that the other side of the world also despises what she did.
You must be a young adult atleast, no? How can you say people are retarded for properly thinking about a heavy scene like this. The author intentionally made it happen. He didn't pull down his pants and said "let's kiss and do some funky yeehaw!" He was delirious and she took advantage of it, being an adult, his teacher even and he a teenager.

Time to reflect on values a bit. They can still apply while in a comment section. You don't have to mindlessly enjoy and agree with everything happening in a manga

 

[halerain]

I used vodka as an example because it has a high alcohol content and is often used in drinks because it has a neutral taste.

As I've lived in Japan for quite a few years, let me correct this for you a bit:

All the chuuhai and similar beverages which dominate the domestic alcohol market are based on vodka/shochu, but they're also usually mixed with soda/fruit juice or concentrate/other diluting agents.

This puts them at anywhere from 4% to 9% (Strong Zero had a higher alcoholic drink than that, but it got discontinued at one point). Drinking PURE vodka in Japan is pretty much uncommon, not to say extraordinarily rare. People also don't mix it that much by themselves, they just buy the canned varieties or chuuhai in izakaya like Torikizoku etc etc. which is even further diluted.

Then there's Horoyoi which is a 3-4% alcoholic beverage with fruit flavors too.

I have no take in the arguments you guys have, feel free to mince words. Just giving some extra context.

Most probably it was something in the 4% to 6% range, in all honesty. I dislike that scene just because it was a stupid plot point to drum up outrage/controversy imho.

 

[rexmundi]

thanks for the chapter

 

[Schernobyl]

Now I'm worried Honjou being scouted is to cause drama. How will her sister use this against her. Mr. Director doesn't seem to think how it will affect the film they are supposed to be making.

 

[Litreara]

As I've lived in Japan for quite a few years, let me correct this for you a bit:

All the chuuhai and similar beverages which dominate the domestic alcohol market are based on vodka/shochu, but they're also usually mixed with soda/fruit juice or concentrate/other diluting agents.

This puts them at anywhere from 4% to 9% (Strong Zero had a higher alcoholic drink than that, but it got discontinued at one point). Drinking PURE vodka in Japan is pretty much uncommon, not to say extraordinarily rare. People also don't mix it that much by themselves, they just buy the canned varieties or chuuhai in izakaya like Torikizoku etc etc. which is even further diluted.

Then there's Horoyoi which is a 3-4% alcoholic beverage with fruit flavors too.

I have no take in the arguments you guys have, feel free to mince words. Just giving some extra context.

Most probably it was something in the 4% to 6% range, in all honesty. I dislike that scene just because it was a stupid plot point to drum up outrage/controversy imho.

Don't worry. I wrote my initial comment that way because the bottle she uses in the panel looks more like a juice bottle than an alcoholic drink bottle and it doesn't appear to be made of glass or plastic, it looks metallic. That's why I used the example of mixing vodka with juice. I was just using a hypothetical.

 

[halerain]

Don't worry. I wrote my initial comment that way because the bottle she uses in the panel looks more like a juice bottle than an alcoholic drink bottle and it doesn't appear to be made of glass or plastic, it looks metallic. That's why I used the example of mixing vodka with juice. I was just using a hypothetical.

I had forgotten the bottle, or I didn't pay attention (lol).

The bottle is modeled after the Asahi craft series like this one:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Asahi-Lemon-Ultimate-Chuhai-Bottles/dp/B093BZD7FJ/

It's a vodka-based, 7% alcoholic beverage, standard chuuhai stuff. In the manga case, it's 甘橙, so pretty much sweet Sicilian orange/a sourer variety of orange, but the beverage alcohol content etc. is the same

 

[BobBob]

Guess he's over it. Or really desperate for chocolate, RIP. Other men are already aiming for Kaho... Lol at her recoiling from Shirasawa.

 

[Litreara]

I had forgotten the bottle, or I didn't pay attention (lol).

The bottle is modeled after the Asahi craft series like this one:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Asahi-Lemon-Ultimate-Chuhai-Bottles/dp/B093BZD7FJ/

It's a vodka-based, 7% alcoholic beverage, standard chuuhai stuff. In the manga case, it's 甘橙, so pretty much sweet Sicilian orange/a sourer variety of orange, but the beverage alcohol content etc. is the same

OH! Thank you! Ngl, it kind of sucks that my argument was totally destroyed by my ignorance on the subject.

In any case, I think that this does not change the fact that according to the author, what he drank was enough for him to get drunk. It may affect some people's suspension of disbelief but it doesn't change what happened.

 

[Galder]

I used vodka as an example because it has a high alcohol content and is often used in drinks because it has a neutral taste.

all the while completely ignoring the fact that he would IMMEDIATELY NOTICE (especially with this amount).

Does she really seem like a sane person to you? Is giving alcohol to a minor and having sex with him something a sane person would do?

definitely saner than someone making the most ridiculous assumptions to make their narrative work.

Like I said, we don't know what she gave him. All we know is that she said it was juice. Just as I gave you a hypothetical, this is also a hypothetical.

i was giving an example that seems logical (unlike yours, see point 1) since fruit alcohol is sweet and you don't taste the alcohol as much (if at all). plus it's popular in japan and featured in many manga (unlike vodka).

People aren't "freaks" just because they don't agree with you.

see point 2.

She went on top of him while he was asleep, his intention was to get a good nights sleep after work. "What is... she doing...?" "Ugh, my head is spinning (everything distorted, his pov)". She says "these days, some alcohol are made to taste just like juice" indicating that he did indeed drink one too many. Also, he is a teen, this is his very first time drinking from what we know so his tolerance is low (+ possibly genetics).
She, the adult, is then forcing a kiss on him while knowing the state he is in. She engaged it ALL.

she ENGAGED, he RECIPROCATED <--- the main point
she's not pinning him down or anything and even fucking asking what he wants to do:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/a617dafa-c8a1-49c9-b1ee-2f04ed88cc56/12
he's actively grabbing/sucking her tits:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d90238a0-e0d9-4000-9939-f6f1054349cd/3
and hugging her:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d90238a0-e0d9-4000-9939-f6f1054349cd/4
he even fucking tells himself that HE broke the iron rule (to not engage in a sexual relationship with his actress):
https://mangadex.org/chapter/7794efe4-7898-4ba4-9457-bb94fc04dcb8/13

YES, the teach came on strong and YES, it's dirty to mix in alcohol to get him to loosen up. BUT if someone drinks a bit and has a slight hangover after waking up, they're NOT DEFENSELESS and DEFINITELY OF A SOUND MIND. it may have taken a few moments to completely wake up and shake off the grogginess, but after that he 100 % KNOWS what's going on and could have easily pushed her aside if he didn't agree with what's happening. hell, he even rushed to get up when she told him to be quiet.

she didn't give him some date rape drugs and he was frolicking with fucking unicorns in la la land while she onesidedly fucked him irl lmfao <--- THAT would've been ACTUAL rape

Sorry, mister rape apologist!! You might want to get your hentai mind out of the gutter and see this for what it actually is. "Every guy would've loved this!" Bruh.

if you actually believed in your own dumb "arguments," then you probably needn't make these stupid assumptions. especially calling someone a hentai addict when you interpret every sexual situation as rape LMFAO (like really, just stop)

You must be a young adult atleast, no? How can you say people are retarded for properly thinking about a heavy scene like this. The author intentionally made it happen. He didn't pull down his pants and said "let's kiss and do some funky yeehaw!" He was delirious and she took advantage of it, being an adult, his teacher even and he a teenager.

how can you NOT use the word retarded for this ridiculous and illogical witch hunt WEEKS after the chapter was published?? and then have the gall to call this "properly thinking"

i got a headache reading this!

 

[halerain]

OH! Thank you! Ngl, it kind of sucks that my argument was totally destroyed by my ignorance on the subject.

In any case, I think that this does not change the fact that according to the author, what he drank was enough for him to get drunk. It may affect some people's suspension of disbelief but it doesn't change what happened.

Hey, it's OK lol, as I said, just providing context. Imho it's still possible for a high schooler to get drunk on this, too.

One of my exes could get drunk off a can of this and she was a full-fledged adult https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Suntory-Horoyoi-Cream-Chuhai-Bottles/dp/B085SLJF6J/

Which is the Horoyoi I mentioned, and it's at the paltry 3%. After all, many Asian people can't break down alcohol properly and it affects them more than, say, Caucasians (on average).

My context here is done, so I'll leave you guys arguing about the other stuff D:

 

[Iskarioth]

I pity you for writing this supercilious comment just because people don't agree with you.

Sure, I really don't care. Feelings are the root of this problem, since they get in the way of the facts. You even tried, but didn't pull thru, because a simply check with https://www.calculator.net/bac-calculator.html and looking up what kinda mix drinks are being sold like I did would tell you that you are factually incorrect. So get uppity all you want. You brought it up yourself.

 

[Iskarioth]

i got a headache reading this!

You are wasting your time! They are butt-hurt by the story progression so they make shit up to hate the character they don't want to see paired up with he MC. Like middle schoolers. All you get is strawmen and ad hominem, from guys with names like Loliconi, who calls people hentai brain - lethal dose of irony right there.

 

[PapaJohn42]

Sure, I really don't care. Feelings are the root of this problem, since they get in the way of the facts. You even tried, but didn't pull thru, because a simply check with https://www.calculator.net/bac-calculator.html and looking up what kinda mix drinks are being sold like I did would tell you that you are factually incorrect. So get uppity all you want. You brought it up yourself.

Please go touch grass. Real one. This is an order from your doctor.

 

[Alexwesker189]

zx

 

[Aster_von_Einzbern]

another episode of "rapist teacher", huh? guess that manchild miguel who knows is going to be here soon.

glad to see that shirasawa was looking chocolates from ekoda.

that shows that shirasawa doesn't care about the sex, (unlike all manchilds here mixing real life victims with manga fictional stuff and react with "dumb" to everyone who thinks different than them) , but he minds that the stupid woman used him just to vent out her frustration for saiga.

now, i'm done, see ya next chapter. go ahead manchilds, react to my comment. i won't read your cries anymore. keep fighting over FICTIONAL characters

 

[Alexwesker189]

Sure, I really don't care. Feelings are the root of this problem, since they get in the way of the facts. You even tried, but didn't pull thru, because a simply check with https://www.calculator.net/bac-calculator.html and looking up what kinda mix drinks are being sold like I did would tell you that you are factually incorrect. So get uppity all you want. You brought it up yourself.

 

[Alexwesker189]

another episode of "rapist teacher", huh? guess that manchild miguel who knows is going to be here soon.

glad to see that shirasawa was looking chocolates from ekoda.

that shows that shirasawa doesn't care about the sex, (unlike all manchilds here mixing real life victims with manga fictional stuff and react with "dumb" to everyone who thinks different than them) , but he minds that the stupid woman used him just to vent out her frustration for saiga.

now, i'm done, see ya next chapter. go ahead manchilds, react to my comment. i won't read your cries anymore. keep fighting over FICTIONAL characters

A beautiful woman is never a rapist.LOL