Hajirau Kimi ga Mitainda - Ch. 62.1 - Scouting

[Loliconi]

Yikes. I could just walk away since this CAN be thought of as "it is manga, whatever" but you are so far gone I need to dunk on what you typed and after that I will silently leave. Thanks :3

she's not pinning him down or anything and even fucking asking what he wants to do

She jumped him while he was asleep in what he thought was a safespace and as shown pushed herself down on him. What are you even on about. One panel is him seeing everything spinning and the next is her slipping her hands into his bedwear and undressing him without any consent/reciprocation yet while he still is asking "huh.. why sensei here wat doin?_?"

YES, the teach came on strong and YES, it's dirty to mix in alcohol to get him to loosen up. BUT if someone drinks a bit and has a slight hangover after waking up, they're NOT DEFENSELESS and DEFINITELY OF A SOUND MIND

This is another A+ case of being a rape apologist. Gonna have a good analogy for that one in the end. She did not come on strong, she forced herself on him, climaxing in the forced kiss. It is not just "dirty to mix in alcohol to get him to loosen up uwu~" She fucking made him drunk on purpose. With a rather sinister goal in mind. That is such a disgusting and immoral way of thinking about minors being taken advantage of with alcohol, ffs. And he is clearly not of sound mind when we see him questioning what sensei is doing. See him questioning why his head is spinning with his own pov even (which is a huge detail here).

she didn't give him some date rape drugs and he was frolicking with fucking unicorns in la la land while she onesidedly fucked him irl lmfao <--- THAT would've been ACTUAL rape

I forgot. Adults giving teens more alcohol than they can tolerate (she shouldn't make him drink at all) to then abuse them in a confirmed delirious state which WAS SHOWN BY THE AUTHOR IN GREAT DETAIL is not ACTUAL rape. You heard it here first (sadly not). She abused her status as a teacher, adult that is close to him like a guardian and part of the crew to "come onto him strong". Lmao. Idek what to say to that way of thinking. "Actual rape is not actual rape because he wasn't drugged!" (alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs btw.).

especially calling someone a hentai addict when you interpret every sexual situation as rape LMFAO (like really, just stop)

I did not call you a hentai addict? I said get your hentai brain out the gutter. I used it to indicate that you are indeed fine with actual sexual assault as long as there is no "hard-"drugs involved and "if he hard it ain't rape" That is quite literally what you are saying here and a often recurring theme in hentai.

how can you NOT use the word retarded for this ridiculous and illogical witch hunt WEEKS after the chapter was published?? and then have the gall to call this "properly thinking"

Huh? So using retard in a derogatory way to insult a HUGE part of readers (the majority was of the same opinion) is okay now because... you don't like it? KEK.
What is being discussed happened 3 chapters ago. Chill out. Peeps can still talk about it. What now, you don't want people to talk about 9/11 anymore because "maaaan it happened so long ago, just let it die!" You are genius. Why did nobody think of that.

You might be a bit too logical for you own good. "if he hard and he ain't pop the pillies it ain't rape". Starting your whole arguementation with the equivalent of "she wore hotpants, she wanted it!" didn't help either.
Had to cringe at some of the incel writeups, tho.
The other dude that typed "damn, haha all these nerd anime virgins that wouldn't want to fuck this hot babe against their own 100% free will are losers irl and need to buss on the skibidy frfr just fuck lmao!! SEEEEX!" was so embarrassing to read. I legit PRAY that you guys are trolling, lmao.

Have a good one.

 

[Alexwesker189]

I'm Crying why people keep saying Sexy teacher a rapist. Sexy and beautiful girl can't be a rapist give her justice.

 

[misopogon]

Why didn't Honjou give him chocolate? That's mean

 

[Litreara]

Sure, I really don't care. Feelings are the root of this problem, since they get in the way of the facts. You even tried, but didn't pull thru, because a simply check with https://www.calculator.net/bac-calculator.html and looking up what kinda mix drinks are being sold like I did would tell you that you are factually incorrect. So get uppity all you want. You brought it up yourself.

My reply to you was about how obnoxious your comment is in itself. About the drinking, I admitted I was wrong. But since you want to get into the subject:

First: It's easy to say that you researched what the drink was and did the math right after halerain posted what the drink was, right? Why didn't you bring up the subject sooner?

Second: The type of drink he drank is irrelevant, he got drunk. This may affect your suspension of disbelief but it doesn't change the fact that the author informed us that he got drunk.

 

[Alexwesker189]

Why didn't Honjou give him chocolate? That's mean

Didn't mean anything it just a joke

 

[Litreara]

all the while completely ignoring the fact that he would IMMEDIATELY NOTICE (especially with this amount).

He would only feel it if the author wanted it, this is not IRL. In the manga universe people get drunk with bonbons filled with liquor.

definitely saner than someone making the most ridiculous assumptions to make their narrative work.

So giving alcohol to a minor and having sex with him is saner than condemning her actions... This is delusional.

i was giving an example that seems logical (unlike yours, see point 1) since fruit alcohol is sweet and you don't taste the alcohol as much (if at all). plus it's popular in japan and featured in many manga (unlike vodka).

Yes, my example was wrong due to my ignorance regarding japanese alcoholic beverages, but the beverage halerain posted uses vodka. Lucky guess.

People aren't "freaks" just because they don't agree with you.

see point 2.

I still stand by this. What he drank is irrelevant, he got drunk as stated by the author. This may hurt your suspension of disbelief but it is what it is.

 

[Litreara]

another episode of "rapist teacher", huh? guess that manchild miguel who knows is going to be here soon.

glad to see that shirasawa was looking chocolates from ekoda.

that shows that shirasawa doesn't care about the sex, (unlike all manchilds here mixing real life victims with manga fictional stuff and react with "dumb" to everyone who thinks different than them) , but he minds that the stupid woman used him just to vent out her frustration for saiga.

now, i'm done, see ya next chapter. go ahead manchilds, react to my comment. i won't read your cries anymore. keep fighting over FICTIONAL characters

We all know that the chocolate thing was an omake with no relevance to the plot. Until the author brings closure to the situation between Shirasawa and Ekoda, this matter will continue to be discussed on the forum.

 

[BaitoDesu]

I already said this before and I'm going to say again, people are taking this manga too seriously, and I'm not talking about just the fiction aspect, but how the manga is written, nothing about how the series is written suggested that the author would make the Teacher and MC incident something super serious or accurate to life, it would be great to have good writing in regards to that but this series just feels like one of the worst one to have that kinda of expectation, so it's better to keep your expectations low.

But anyways I bet people are still going to be mad everytime the teacher is even mentioned and even more mad when the protagonist doesn't show absolute revulsion towards her.

 

[MesaOracle]

It is indeed her left index on page 2, and it's called joint hypermobility in case you wanted to know

Wrong. Go look again. You can SEE the lines denoting where each finger is joined to the palm. As well, its physically impossible to put your ring and index fingers together that tightly. They will always have a triangle between them... because there is a finger between them!

 

[Moneymike1995]

Poor lonely Valentines for Akito. 🤭

Though... Him half-expecting chocolate from Rapist Sensei is kinda... Ehh...

Yeah I know it was a joke but still kinda weird

 

[Moneymike1995]

why the frigg are ppl still going on about this crap?? like a commenter posted in the original chapter already, there's NO WAY IN HELL even a teenager would get drunk from that pitiful amount of booze he ingested. he might get a bit tipsy at best. meaning he was FULLY AWARE of what happened. hell, he even commented on how he gave in to her advances. so this whole discussion is really retarded tbh.
and if you're in the age range this manga is meant for (young seinen, so ~ ages 18 - 25), you should have had your own experiences with alcohol and should be able to confirm.

My god idiots still believe this branded take. Go away already

 

[Moneymike1995]

Because unfortunately these people are the real life example of the worst and usually undeserved prejudices that people have of otakus: terminally online and inside their own asses / bubble so deep, they lack even the most basic real life experiences. That lone is not the problem, but they have an ego unfitting for their low reasoning capabilities. If they weren't old enough to be working and having a low IQ insult sprees every time someone confronts them with the glaring holes in their perception, I'd pity them. Real life losers, and that's not an insult, sadly.

Why don't you just stop commenting. You sound dumb everytime you do.

 

[Moneymike1995]

all the while completely ignoring the fact that he would IMMEDIATELY NOTICE (especially with this amount).

definitely saner than someone making the most ridiculous assumptions to make their narrative work.

i was giving an example that seems logical (unlike yours, see point 1) since fruit alcohol is sweet and you don't taste the alcohol as much (if at all). plus it's popular in japan and featured in many manga (unlike vodka).

see point 2.


she ENGAGED, he RECIPROCATED <--- the main point
she's not pinning him down or anything and even fucking asking what he wants to do:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/a617dafa-c8a1-49c9-b1ee-2f04ed88cc56/12
he's actively grabbing/sucking her tits:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d90238a0-e0d9-4000-9939-f6f1054349cd/3
and hugging her:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d90238a0-e0d9-4000-9939-f6f1054349cd/4
he even fucking tells himself that HE broke the iron rule (to not engage in a sexual relationship with his actress):
https://mangadex.org/chapter/7794efe4-7898-4ba4-9457-bb94fc04dcb8/13

YES, the teach came on strong and YES, it's dirty to mix in alcohol to get him to loosen up. BUT if someone drinks a bit and has a slight hangover after waking up, they're NOT DEFENSELESS and DEFINITELY OF A SOUND MIND. it may have taken a few moments to completely wake up and shake off the grogginess, but after that he 100 % KNOWS what's going on and could have easily pushed her aside if he didn't agree with what's happening. hell, he even rushed to get up when she told him to be quiet.

she didn't give him some date rape drugs and he was frolicking with fucking unicorns in la la land while she onesidedly fucked him irl lmfao <--- THAT would've been ACTUAL rape

if you actually believed in your own dumb "arguments," then you probably needn't make these stupid assumptions. especially calling someone a hentai addict when you interpret every sexual situation as rape LMFAO (like really, just stop)

how can you NOT use the word retarded for this ridiculous and illogical witch hunt WEEKS after the chapter was published?? and then have the gall to call this "properly thinking"

i got a headache reading this!

This is so stupid. Like beyond dumb. So based on your logic if you get drunk and kiss back it's not rape? He even passes out at the end while she's putting him inside her.

And at the end of the day he got pissed off. Your whole argument falls apart when you remember he was mad that all even happened. If he wanted to do it why would he get upset?

 

[Moneymike1995]

You are wasting your time! They are butt-hurt by the story progression so they make shit up to hate the character they don't want to see paired up with he MC. Like middle schoolers. All you get is strawmen and ad hominem, from guys with names like Loliconi, who calls people hentai brain - lethal dose of irony right there.

I see. So in the end you're mad because people are insulting your waifu. What a loser simp

 

[Moneymike1995]

another episode of "rapist teacher", huh? guess that manchild miguel who knows is going to be here soon.

glad to see that shirasawa was looking chocolates from ekoda.

that shows that shirasawa doesn't care about the sex, (unlike all manchilds here mixing real life victims with manga fictional stuff and react with "dumb" to everyone who thinks different than them) , but he minds that the stupid woman used him just to vent out her frustration for saiga.

now, i'm done, see ya next chapter. go ahead manchilds, react to my comment. i won't read your cries anymore. keep fighting over FICTIONAL characters

Never was it states that he cared

 

[Moneymike1995]

I already said this before and I'm going to say again, people are taking this manga too seriously, and I'm not talking about just the fiction aspect, but how the manga is written, nothing about how the series is written suggested that the author would make the Teacher and MC incident something super serious or accurate to life, it would be great to have good writing in regards to that but this series just feels like one of the worst one to have that kinda of expectation, so it's better to keep your expectations low.

But anyways I bet people are still going to be mad everytime the teacher is even mentioned and even more mad when the protagonist doesn't show absolute revulsion towards her.

Why do you care how others feel towards 1 character?

 

[Moneymike1995]

We all know that the chocolate thing was an omake with no relevance to the plot. Until the author brings closure to the situation between Shirasawa and Ekoda, this matter will continue to be discussed on the forum.

What's funny is those 2 guys (they have to be honest with themselves and realize they are in the minority here) keep only mentioning the act but conveniently leave out the fact he was angry the following day. They keep wanting to blame it on Saiga yet forget he was mad the moment he saw her way before any mention of Saiga. It's almost as if acknowledging that part would ruin their whole argument.

 

[Iskarioth]

Why don't you just stop commenting. You sound dumb everytime you do.

Please for the love of god, stop shaming yourself. I feel seriously embarrassed for you - you call people incels or virgins while simultaneously and unwittingly showing off that you don't know sex, alcohol, basic human "mating" or interaction every chapter. You expose yourself, please notice already. Another 8 post of self-serving drivel and you still are in your own damn world instead of reading the story as is.

My reply to you was about how obnoxious your comment is in itself. About the drinking, I admitted I was wrong. But since you want to get into the subject:

First: It's easy to say that you researched what the drink was and did the math right after halerain posted what the drink was, right? Why didn't you bring up the subject sooner?

Second: The type of drink he drank is irrelevant, he got drunk. This may affect your suspension of disbelief but it doesn't change the fact that the author informed us that he got drunk.

I already did so when the chapter in question came out, wasting my time on the clown above. And where is it stated that he was drunk? That heavily implies he was seriously intoxicated. He drank what was in all likelihood a small amount of a alcohol in a mix drink - nothing that stunts an average male at that age .
I don't know if you are one of them but some people pretend he was almost unconscious to justify their BS take but if you just look at the chapter you will notice that's not true at all ( disbelief aside).

 

[Aster_von_Einzbern]

Never was it states that he cared

yet, people here are fighting, again, OVER FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, when the FICTIONAL CHARACTER doesn't even care that she had sex with him, but she used him while thinking about Saiga.

Anyway, whatever, westerns discussing over that, won't change the author's ideas so, meh.

 

[Moneymike1995]

Please for the love of god, stop shaming yourself. I feel seriously embarrassed for you - you call people incels or virgins while simultaneously and unwittingly showing off that you don't know sex, alcohol, basic human "mating" or interaction every chapter. You expose yourself, please notice already. Another 8 post of self-serving drivel and you still are in your own damn world instead of reading the story as is.


I already did so when the chapter in question came out, wasting my time on the clown above. And where is it stated that he was drunk? That heavily implies he was seriously intoxicated. He drank what was in all likelihood a small amount of a alcohol in a mix drink - nothing that stunts an average male at that age .
I don't know if you are one of them but some people pretend he was almost unconscious to justify their BS take but if you just look at the chapter you will notice that's not true at all ( disbelief aside).

Dude you're shaming yourself. You haven't made sense once since you started your idiotic rambling

yet, people here are fighting, again, OVER FICTIONAL CHARACTERS, when the FICTIONAL CHARACTER doesn't even care that she had sex with him, but she used him while thinking about Saiga.

Anyway, whatever, westerns discussing over that, won't change the author's ideas so, meh.

Can you please state where this is said? I'll wait