Harapeko Oyako to Motokare Yanushi

[zachary145]

Isn't it best if he just let them stay to another room instead of living with him,I feel bad for the guy tbh she just shove herself in his life,If MC is not the father of the girl she could atleast wait for the child to become independent then shove herself to his life that would make a proper fit her giving a chance for the MC to think of settling down rather than force family bonding thing.

 

[Starbright]

Seen alot of people bad mouth the mother in this series of false premises like that she's using him and so on.

Only recent chapters give a better idea of what happened where the fml broke up with ml since she had family problems and didn't want to be a burden to him. For whatever reason the ml never pursues the fml and easy let's her go. Even though he says in early chapters that he got over her its clear he hasn't where he's still single after 17 years of the breakup and making art of her. It seems also the fml also loves him too and likely didn't pursue him again not to be a burden since seems the ex husband died fairly early when the daughter was born and only came seeking her old boyfriend because she was pretty much homeless but think on some level she wanted to see him again. Seems her marriage was more so a marriage of convenience where she met her husband at work and helped her out when she was struggling I'm not sure to what level her feeling for her husband was but seems her true love that she gave up was the ml. Seems currently both are choosing not to pursue each other where I think both acknowledge both have feelings for each other but don't for the sake of the daughter who seems against this relationship.

 

[Starbright]

Haven't read it (won't), sounds like he's just a rebound for a selfish single mother cause they dated 17 years ago

I don't really get the point of the premise, "Wouldn't it be great if your ex of 17 years ago took you in as a single parent?", what?
He hasn't moved on and he's going to risk wasting time for her?

I'd be a lot less awkward if he didn't know her, if it's out of pure pity/duty and not some "I can't move on"/"I'm glad I can see her again" feeling, a lot less pathetic too (For example, his step-parent/relative has him house some step-cousins/relatives, he's not related, doesn't know them, but he has to so he can appease his parent's marriage(duty), and pities them(though, that'd fade))
Currently the only reason they're there is because he knew her, he probably hasn't moved on, and pity, all which are wrought with regret, a "Why did I do that" moment (Blind altruism is not a pure positive)

If he had an ounce of "I don't want to do this" (the pity fades) and she starts seeing that, then she'd have a reason to be active, be it beneficial, or less taxing on him, does she not see herself as a burden?
Is it just "Sorry, thank you, sorry, thank you" like I imagine

That's because people running with assumptions see two types of individuals shitting on the story those that are making assumptions of the plot of the series and characters based on couple chapters which to the extent is the series fault since you only really get idea of what's going on 20 chapters in. Then theres those that just hate the idea that even if ex lover has reasonable circumstances of breaking up and she comes back with a kid that automatically makes you a simp or cuck for still wanting her back which I'm hoping individuals with this mindset are immature kids not adults but I'm sure lot adults have this mentality.

 

[TestAddress]

Haven't read it (won't), sounds like he's just a rebound for a selfish single mother cause they dated 17 years ago

I don't really get the point of the premise, "Wouldn't it be great if your ex of 17 years ago took you in as a single parent?", what?
He hasn't moved on and he's going to risk wasting time for her?

I'd be a lot less awkward if he didn't know her, if it's out of pure pity/duty and not some "I can't move on"/"I'm glad I can see her again" feeling, a lot less pathetic too (For example, his step-parent/relative has him house some step-cousins/relatives, he's not related, doesn't know them, but he has to so he can appease his parent's marriage(duty), and pities them(though, that'd fade))
Currently the only reason they're there is because he knew her, he probably hasn't moved on, and pity, all which are wrought with regret, a "Why did I do that" moment (Blind altruism is not a pure positive)

If he had an ounce of "I don't want to do this" (the pity fades) and she starts seeing that, then she'd have a reason to be active, be it beneficial, or less taxing on him, does she not see herself as a burden?
Is it just "Sorry, thank you, sorry, thank you" like I imagine

Found a man with self respect

 

[67User67]

making art of her.
her true love that she gave up was the ml.
both have feelings for each other but daughter seems against this relationship.

comes back with a kid that automatically makes you a simp for still wanting her back which individuals with this mindset are immature kids

Issue is not moving on, neither moves on, if you saw the end of the "Titanic" where the grandma goes on about a guy she was on a boat with while her actual family has to listen to that, how could you respect her at all
(This happens in real life)
(Could you imagine your parent talking about some ex when your other parent dies? Hello?)

It's exactly what you said, the daughter doesn't want this, he isn't her Dad, this is always going to be a point of contention, always has been, will be, if the daughter did move on from her real Dad, she'd have no respect for her real Dad, but the mother is being selfish not only towards her daughter, but her ex too, she is an awful mother
(I know our Dad died, here's my ex from 17 years ago)

If we never move on from anything, you'd still be pissed someone broke your sandcastle, it's a part of life, it's more immature to never move on, sure, accepting someone is kind, but the issue is she's his ex, he's doing it because she's his ex, if for example he's welcome in other people other than his ex, that'd be a nicer premise as he isn't making an exception for her, but he is, he's sacrificing for her, only her (when someone more worthy could exist), he doesn't owe her anything, if anything she owes him
(Who cares, he's probably going to say "It's nothing, thanks for being here"... as any MAN SHOULD, ladies, who's with me???)
(Male devotion is a consistent theme in female written romance, marriage is his devotion to her, she's "secured" him)
(Other female written themes would be, going back to an ex, gender preconceptions, and unaccountability)

If you dated 5 people in the past, then all of them came rushing to you 17 years later for help, does something not feel, off? They're using you, literally, this is not kind to do, they are not kind people, realistically when they are declined help (after pulling the, "Don't you remember? OMG we should've talked more, I am SO sorry"), they will drop their facade and act harsh, selfish, childish, this happens in real life, you can find people calling their exes of years ago to make sure they can't get back together before their wedding, this is the type of people we're dealing with, they're bad partners, they lack accountability, and do what they want
(Again, selfish, selfishness does not go far in relationships, it is not "mutual")
(Realistically, if this guy has a kid with her, she's gonna move on to some other ex she had if he dies, what a doll)


So, what should they do? Mother moves on from her "soulmate", and prioritises her daughter (as any mother would)
And the male lead should move on, and prioritise something literally other than the "her" from 17 years ago (as anyone would)

Who am I kidding, "Oh joy, my ex from 17 years ago I get to finally be with again", and they lived happily ever after
(Except the real Dad, he's in hell or something, for stopping soulmates)

Don't get me wrong, I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic, but I can't respect someone who uses others, I wouldn't put that person past harping their child of "Do you love me? Say you love me"

 

[Starbright]

Issue is not moving on, neither moves on, if you saw the end of the "Titanic" where the grandma goes on about a guy she was on a boat with while her actual family has to listen to that, how could you respect her at all
(This happens in real life)
(Could you imagine your parent talking about some ex when your other parent dies? Hello?)

It's exactly what you said, the daughter doesn't want this, he isn't her Dad, this is always going to be a point of contention, always has been, will be, if the daughter did move on from her real Dad, she'd have no respect for her real Dad, but the mother is being selfish not only towards her daughter, but her ex too, she is an awful mother
(I know our Dad died, here's my ex from 17 years ago)

If we never move on from anything, you'd still be pissed someone broke your sandcastle, it's a part of life, it's more immature to never move on, sure, accepting someone is kind, but the issue is she's his ex, he's doing it because she's his ex, if for example he's welcome in other people other than his ex, that'd be a nicer premise as he isn't making an exception for her, but he is, he's sacrificing for her, only her (when someone more worthy could exist), he doesn't owe her anything, if anything she owes him
(Who cares, he's probably going to say "It's nothing, thanks for being here"... as any MAN SHOULD, ladies, who's with me???)
(Male devotion is a consistent theme in female written romance, marriage is his devotion to her, she's "secured" him)
(Other female written themes would be, going back to an ex, gender preconceptions, and unaccountability)

If you dated 5 people in the past, then all of them came rushing to you 17 years later for help, does something not feel, off? They're using you, literally, this is not kind to do, they are not kind people, realistically when they are declined help (after pulling the, "Don't you remember? OMG we should've talked more, I am SO sorry"), they will drop their facade and act harsh, selfish, childish, this happens in real life, you can find people calling their exes of years ago to make sure they can't get back together before their wedding, this is the type of people we're dealing with, they're bad partners, they lack accountability, and do what they want
(Again, selfish, selfishness does not go far in relationships, it is not "mutual")
(Realistically, if this guy has a kid with her, she's gonna move on to some other ex she had if he dies, what a doll)


So, what should they do? Mother moves on from her "soulmate", and prioritises her daughter (as any mother would)
And the male lead should move on, and prioritise something literally other than the "her" from 17 years ago (as anyone would)

Who am I kidding, "Oh joy, my ex from 17 years ago I get to finally be with again", and they lived happily ever after
(Except the real Dad, he's in hell or something, for stopping soulmates)

Don't get me wrong, I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic, but I can't respect someone who uses others, I wouldn't put that person past harping their child of "Do you love me? Say you love me"

My personal view on couple of the points you made is one on the point of the ml not moving on. Will say for this certain things in stories I don't judge the same as I would judge in real life. Like the ml not moving on those 17 years in story terms I can respect it in him showing how genuine and deep his love is for her. If this scenario was in real life I wouldn't feel the same for example lets say I had a friend that hasn't moved on from a girlfriend that dumped him 17 years ago I would be pushing him to move on and to an extent its pretty pathetic if that was case it would be one thing of not moving on from a dead lover but to still keep lingering feelings for person who dumped you is different. Reason I don't feel same way about story is we learn the circumstances why she chose to break up for him and me personally storyline can appreciate the genuineness of his feelings for that he's kept all this time.

As for point you feel its using him reaching out to him in their time of need. Will say she reached out to him out of desperation since they were pretty much homeless and seems she has no other options. Doesn't seem like she had any other family or friends to reach out to in time of need. She was single mother for 17 years and only went to him when she had no other options her character is about not wanting to be burden on others and if she was single still pretty sure her character would of chosen to be homeless instead of reaching out but for her daughter's sake she reached out to only person she had some connection with the ex boyfriend she dumped and again dumped him to not be a burden on him. Same with first point I would feel different if this was real life for example if an ex girlfriend approaches me many years later saying her and her kid need help some thoughts would go through my head of why not reach out to someone else or are they trying to scam me many of those thoughts go through my head since I don't know what's going through their head and heart while in this story we know the fml perspective and type person she is.

Lastly of your point feeling if the daughter has respect for her dead dad she wouldn't support them getting together as I explained in earlier post seems reason the fml got with her husband seems to be marriage of convenience scenario where he was someone who took care of her and seems she feels indebted to him for that. Secondly in the end of the day even though kid will prefer their parents to be together but when you get older and more mature you learn to respect who makes there parents happy and treat them well. If the parent wants to find new love its natural the kids will be against that but if you want to be happy you consider allowing be with who makes them happy.

 

[67User67]

lets say I had a friend that hasn't moved on from a girlfriend that dumped him 17 years ago its pretty pathetic.
genuineness of his feelings for that he's kept all this time.

she has no other options.
Doesn't seem like she had any other family or friends to reach out to in time of need.
dumped him to not be a burden on him.
if an ex approaches me many years later are they trying to scam me

if you want to be happy you consider allowing be with who makes them happy.

Nobody but her ex could help her, that she dumped to "not be a burden", contrived premise, I'd rather kill myself
Romance built on desperation isn't healthy, goes for using someone or never moving on

 

[zachary145]

I agree with all negative about the fml methaporically speaking it like the MC has a car got stolen then someone manage to return it years later all busted up,automatically it is better to get a new one than keeping the old busted up car,even the sister has concerns for her brother's decision of accepting them to his home rather than helping them find a affordable home,I wish for the MC to move on with her and finding someone to give him a brand new inspiration for his art that will stay with him for better or for worse,FML has a weak heart that lead her to that choices and should focus on making her daughter's life better rather to pursue lost time for her past love.

 

[zachary145]

I will come back this if the author make FML to stop leeching on MC there is still a possibility the author could make the MC drunk while meeting her after 3 yrs of the break up going home from her work and MC just forgot what happened.🤞🏻🤞🏻

 

[JaunD.]

They loved each other and yet didn't communicate or solve their worries together. 17 years later after leaving without any words, the fml returned with her problems. Yeah, very wholesome relationship right there.

 

[art200210]

It's painful to read, seeing how he’s been stuck in the same place for 17 years. It’s pathetic. She moved on and lived her life (even got dihed down enough to have a kid), while he just stayed there, rotting in regret and doing absolutely nothing with his love life. Watching his lack of spine makes me want to punch him through the screen.

 

[Fapeyebee]

Such a great manga. I like the slow burn and how those two are slowly reconnecting romantically. I bet the spirit of her late husband would give them his approval if they can contact the dead lol

 

[Guesto]

This comment section > than this manga stories lol

 

[kudamak]

I'm baffled by the lack of humanity in this comment section, and it's the reason why we still live in such a shitty society. Luckily there are a few commenters who still have enough functioning brain cells...

• He's still hung up on her after 17 years? Why wouldn't he be when 1) he actually loved her and 2) their breakup was sudden and lacking in explanation?
• Is it that strange for a relatively young person (FMC) to realistically consider her options after her parents' divorce? The MC was clearly absorbed in his work and there was no way she could have asked him "can you start working instead of doing what you love, so we can live together because our family lost its main source of income?" ...She did it for him, given the circumstances, a sign that she actually loved him too, but she just wasn't able to afford the relationship.
• The dead father is also getting hate for no reason whatsoever? He just conveniently worked where she found her new job, so unlike our MC, their lives were much more aligned and the prospect of a life together was a much more realistic outcome. The daughter was born 3 years later anyway, so it wasn't just a "whim" on anyone's part either. Not to mention he's portrayed as someone with a good head on his shoulders, too, despite the little on-screen time. Heck, he didn't even get to see her daughter. Jesus Christ, guys.
• You're also completely ignoring how the MC did set up boundaries, how the FMC kept looking for a house while still having an income to pay for food at the very least, how it's completely human to both rely on someone you once loved and try to help someone you still love... but that might be too hard to understand for you pea-brained organisms.

If you're instead a new reader: give it a chance regardless of comments, unless you're also a pea-brained organism.

First of all that is not love it's just an obsession and rumination.he hasn't seen the woman in years he needs therapy of he's gonna be this hung up for 17 fucking years. This is not a justification and not even a good one at that man.

Im genuinely annoyed at this bullshit narrative that "she loved him" no! that's not how that works she did not asked what he wanted? She just broke up. now the story is saying it's for him? that's her own twisted idea of love it's even more redeemable to say she fell out of love with him than this bullshit. Doesn't consult him and ask for his feelings on this or give him closure she just makes herself a saint or savoir or whatever. that is in no way a valid excuse for this behavior fuck her. Your little insults won't take away form the fact this relationship is a mess

She knows he likes her and is still not being open about it waiting for him to make a move this is manipulative. Because she knows he will take her bullshit she can even be relaxed on moving away because he loves her she is exploiting him even if she doesn't feel like it. People procrastinate as well when not put in pressure.

Lastly she has not known this man in 10+years and bring her child in his house and stays for such a long time?do you know how irresponsible that is? what if he is a creep and hurts her? Ion even give a damn she dated other men but her excuse for breaking up with him is rancid your the moron for thinking this toxic bullshit is love.

Dead father shouldn't be getting hate ill admit that but holy shit the cuckoldry is insane she gets with a man and has a kid with him while his loser ass can barley kiss her. I am specifying this as an insult to him not her. He's that much of a pussy honestly it's pathetic. Im not saying she should be forced to kiss him but he won't even try to make a move. Buut i could say the same with her these two are adults and refuse to talk about their past or give each other closure fuck them both. He stays hung up over s girl for fucking years and it shows just how disgustingly selfish her decision was because she broke her loser boyfriend.

Honestly your comment about lack of humanity is the most pretentious thing about this. this moral posturing you use to negate criticism when there is definitely shit wrong with this is the funniest part of this you've been tricked to think this shit is wholesome and not the toxic shit storm it is.

 

[MrSergio]

I can only laugh

 

[Ahmadpo]

This is for the people that defending the stupidity of this selfish ahh woman. Let's start. She was in a loving relationship, but she had family issues. So if you have family issues, you should talk them out with the person who is closest to you, right? Like your partner(Husband/wife) or boyfriend/girlfriend, whoever it is. But no, she didn't want to burden him and decided to leave. Fine. But then she goes on, f*cks a random dude, and burdens him with her problem because they share the same fate or whatever, and has a kid with him. But now that the dude is dead, she decides to come back, and burden mc even more with another set of problems on top of her family issues that she left him for????. AND IN THE RECENT CHAPTERS SHE IS SHOWN TO HAVE LINGERING FEELINGS FOR HIM? IS THIS HO SERIOUS? So you're saying it's fine that a girl left her bf during distressing times and opened up her feelings to a random guy instead of her bf, who she's supposed to trust the most. f*cks him. has a kid. But now that the dude is dead. MC, the second choice, is burdened with it. MC IS HER 2ND F*CKIN CHOICE. And so let's say in the future they do get together. THAT WOULD MEAN THIS GIRL IN A RELATIONSHIP, LEFT THE LOVE LIFE TO F*CK ANOTHER DUDE AND CAME BACK WITH A KID TO THE SAME RELATIONSHIP? THERE ARE NO F*CKIN BREAKS IN A RELATIONSHIP. SHE F*CKIN CHEATED. THAT'S IT. I really wish she and mc don't end up together cuz she doesn't deserve him. But knowing Japanese authors and their cuck fantasy life. He will take her back again if they end up together again in the future.

 

[Dark1400]

But now that the dude is dead

Dude died 14 years ago, why people keep talking like she went to MC right after the husband died when there is a 14 years gap between husband death and she looking for help?

 

[Ahmadpo]

Dude died 14 years ago, why people keep talking like she went to MC right after the husband died when there is a 14 years gap between husband death and she looking for help?

yeah? so? If you think when something tragic happens in your life and you cant share it with your loved one and instead of a random stranger then even start a family with him. You dont deserve to go back to your ex who you ghosted. Even if its been 14 years. You left thinking you were gonna burden him with trauma but now you're not only burdening him with your trauma but also a teen kid on top of that. Isnt that a lot more than what she left him for? Yeah she had no other choice? so my opinion still stands. She only came back to him because she couldnt find anyone else. its worse than being her 2nd choice. its not love. he's been made a convenient escape route. His position isnt for her love. never was if she couldnt even trust the person she is supposed to trust the most. she knew that he wouldnt ask or say anything and would just accept her. a f*cking escape from the buttload of questions anyone else would. in this sense, the guy is also nothing but stupid. But she is also a selfish ho for using his feelings like that. even if its been 14 years. its still using him.

 

[Dark1400]

yeah? so? If you think when something tragic happens in your life and you cant share it with your loved one and instead of a random stranger then even start a family with him. You dont deserve to go back to your ex who you ghosted. Even if its been 14 years. You left thinking you were gonna burden him with trauma but now you're not only burdening him with your trauma but also a teen kid on top of that. Isnt that a lot more than what she left him for? Yeah she had no other choice? so my opinion still stands. She only came back to him because she couldnt find anyone else. its worse than being her 2nd choice. its not love. he's been made a convenient escape route. His position isnt for her love. never was if she couldnt even trust the person she is supposed to trust the most. she knew that he wouldnt ask or say anything and would just accept her. a f*cking escape from the buttload of questions anyone else would. in this sense, the guy is also nothing but stupid. But she is also a selfish ho for using his feelings like that. even if its been 14 years. its still using him.

So the husband death has nothing to do with It, the reason why she looked for help now is becuase of her daughter, her situation isn't about only her anymore, and she didn't went back to MC thinking he was still in love with her, she went back thinking he would help her as an friend or at least an acquaintance, also she didn't ghost him, she broke up with him because of family problems that required her to drop out of college and move, the plan wasn't to use this as an excuse to get back together with MC, was to stay till she could find a place for her and her daughter to live, MC is the one who was fine with her taking time finding a new place, and not paying for her stay.

 

[kudamak]

So the husband death has nothing to do with It, the reason why she looked for help now is becuase of her daughter, her situation isn't about only her anymore, and she didn't went back to MC thinking he was still in love with her, she went back thinking he would help her as an friend or at least an acquaintance, also she didn't ghost him, she broke up with him because of family problems that required her to drop out of college and move, the plan wasn't to use this as an excuse to get back together with MC, was to stay till she could find a place for her and her daughter to live, MC is the one who was fine with her taking time finding a new place, and not paying for her stay.

Honestly i keep coming back to this trash heap of a manga but the defenders are so full of shit. She didn't even bother communicating and broke up with him cause she "loved" him or that's the narrative the story is tryna play at. She leaves with no closure and selfishly makes herself a marter then come back outta nowhere to her Ex's place?after she knows they had a bad break up doesn't even talk to him during the time they aren't even close anymore at all.what the fuck do you mean help her as a friend are you obtuse or something? That isn't how that shit works,and even then now she knows he likes her.And is still staying with him taking advantage if the lingering feelings and not even talking to him like an adult.waiting for him to confess or something even tho she knows he loves her how is that not manipltive? this woman is not a child. He is already helping her even with alternative feelings even if he doesn't believe it. because I'll ask you this,would he be okay if she just went to live with another man or started seeing another man while living with him? In such a situation there is now a very messy foundation and incentives in this relationship. this isn't some wholesome story and I'm tired of people trying to make it such. People have evey right to criticize her behavior because the story itself trys it's best to make everything not her fault and not give her agency. It trys to day that it's the boyfriend's fault for not chasing after her when she broke up but why should he do that? Why is she just willing to break of a long term relationship without atleast explaining or asking him. It's pretty obvious the gus flaws so i wont state them but this type of bullshit is beyond annoying at this point. Atleast if the story tried redemption and actually acknowledging her behavior is garbage id understand instead of this pity part bullshit where they don't even talk about it like adults to each other. She hurt this loser of a man real bad with her selfish actions and the kid is important but this is also becoming a mess and it can hurt the bastard again. She's taking advantage of his emtions as well relationships like this just aren't healthy.