Hazure Waku no [Joutai Ijou Skill] de Saikyou ni Natta Ore ga Subete o Juurin Suru made - Ch. 53.2

[BobBob]

[FRAME MENTIONED]

Time for the MC to at long last pop off. It's funny that they brought a Danmachi monster to the battlefield.

 

[StormSen]

Nah I don't think Kirihara was someone who thinks he could become a king in the previous world. It's just the powers he got and the world where he's supposed to be this Hero who saves the world that went to his head.

But his character is exactly the same. Arrogant narcissist with an ideology that expresses exactly that. That's the way he was in original world. The difference in the new world is only that the environment allows him to express that same personality in a much more grandiose way.

Touka is a bit different of Yasu, he was not bullied in school, he was just a nobody. It's still the case in the new world... and the power didn't get over his head because he knows how limited he is. He also has some morals and won't go against anybody like Yasu.

Touka is the same as he was before. His inner core is fairly cold and uncaring -- but not entirely so -- he empathizes with decent people -- and is especially protective of those who get abused by villains. His previous, unassuming, 'nice guy' personality was just a mask that he adopted out of appreciation for his foster family.

Unironically, the classmate who has the most interesting backstory is Oyamada. An entire book could be written about this jerk and I would enjoy reading it XD

Hmm... Neah not for me.

Well, I'm part way through vol 10. And it's still puzzling out personalities and drives for some of the characters at that point.

 

[groudonvert]

But his character is exactly the same. Arrogant narcissist with an ideology that expresses exactly that. That's the way he was in original world. The difference in the new world is only that the environment allows him to express that same personality in a much more grandiose way.

Power corrupts. He had no power in his original world.

Touka is the same as he was before. His inner core is fairly cold and uncaring -- but not entirely so -- he empathizes with decent people -- and is especially protective of those who get abused by villains. His previous, unassuming, 'nice guy' personality was just a mask that he adopted out of appreciation for his foster family.

Yeah, he didn't really change. But still, to anyone that thought they knew him, oh boy they were wrong. But this fact also allows him to hide his true identity more freely.

Hmm... Neah not for me.

Well, I'm part way through vol 10. And it's still puzzling out personalities and drives for some of the characters at that point.

I mean knowing how it ends for him makes the backstory much more interesting.

 

[sedition]

They really stretched that shit out man, nobody really cares about the extra squad to justify that many chapters focusing on their fight lol.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

I'd almost agree, Sogou has some development. They needed more time with her interacting with other heros besides the assholes and the Canon fodder. She's simply been I need to protect the weak classmates. The other strong classmates really needed more time to flesh then out so that we had interest in them. Most of the jerk heroes I didn't feel anything when they died or their instructors.

TBF, this is really the very beginning of her story and it needed this much buildup. We got plenty of her struggle to justify herself and her leadership and it paid off handsomely. We've had a bit of development of her named squad as well. It's not like the other characters who'll matter in the long run won't get their turns, too. Priorities.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

I'll be honest, I've skipped every chapter that does not focus on the MC. I have so very little care for what his old classmates are up to.

I mean, it's doable. It makes her side seem kinda deus ex machina when the plotlines converge, but it's still comprehensible. (Like reading DanMachi without Sword Oratorio.) The story is a lot more enjoyable when you have it all, though.

 

[StormSen]

Power corrupts. He had no power in his original world.

He came from a wealthy family, and was clearly into powerplay business dealings and had contempt for those lower than him. I.e. he did have power and either did or would do some shady (but probably legal) stuff.

To say that "power corrupts" means that power changes a person's personality, morals, ideals. But that doesn't happen with him. He already had the same personality, morals, ideals. He was already "corrupt". The newfound power just allowed him to be more explicit and grandiose.

...
In general, I disagree that "power corrupts". Rather: 1) the corrupt crave power, and once they get it, their true personality shows through more. And 2) even those who weren't seeking power, but show "corruption" when they get it -- almost always the corruption (lousy morals, etc.) was already there, dormant in the previous world.

Vs Mimori, Sougou, Seras, Eve -- all fundamentally non-corrupt -- gaining/holding power made little difference in their personalities or ideals.

That said, I don't think that it's the case that power never corrupts. Yasu is a good example. Definitely a case of a person who let power go to his head.

 

[Mithril-Crow]

Demon army: "finally we have them on the ropes!"

Also demon army: "why do we hear sabaton's winged hussars?"

 

[StormSen]

What make the LN interesting (aside from fights & revenge story) is slow buildup to conflict between different characters/ideologies. Part of the buildup to that conflict is understanding each character's personality/ideology, with those personalities being slowly built up in bits and pieces over multiple volumes.

The problem is that it's difficult and time consuming to try to build that up in either a manga or anime -- so viewers of those media will end up missing out on most of the character building. And of course, there's a chunk of people who aren't interested in that character building and just want MC action.

E.g. Sougou is class beauty, comes from a well off family, and has a family tradition of advanced martial arts, much of which she was trained in. She is also empathethic and protective of those who are weaker. A pretty typical Shonen Heroine. But she's also very naive, and weak to manipulation. Her intelligence is probably good, but not great. She has almost no people skills.

Interesting contrast is Hibiki from Tsukimichi Moonlit Fantasy, who is much the same: class beauty, class president, very skilled, martial arts family background. But Hibiki (novel version) is subtly arrogant; she has noblesse oblige ( but "peasants are peasants").

Understanding the more subtle nature of characters is part of the fun of the LN -- but manga and anime tend to erase those subtle differences.

 

[Kyotaro]

Finally Touka coming to help.

 

[tekkenshu7]

Thanks for the new chapter!

The anime adap is way past this point, right?

 

[isoycrazy]

Thanks for the new chapter!

The anime adap is way past this point, right?

Nope. It is approaching this, but they haven't met the witch yet.

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[tekkenshu7]

Nope. It is approaching this, but they haven't met the witch yet.

Ah I see, I found it weird since I saw the previews showing them getting a a weird-ass horse or magic beast.
Then that means, the anime hasn't shown how much of a waifu Eve can be.

 

[shinshom]

there it is, ppl that couldnt wait anymore.... he's comming XD

 

[SicklyToast]

you know what the demon army seems to be way to powerful and the heroes suck ass

 

[groudonvert]

you know what the demon army seems to be way to powerful and the heroes suck ass

The strongest heroes were not on that battlefield.
Well, that was before Sogou unlocker her unique skill(s) and becomes the most OP character in the series.

 

[groudonvert]

Thanks for the new chapter!

The anime adap is way past this point, right?

The anime should end when Erika appears in front of them. Nice cliffhanger xD

 

[phil777]

It's kind of amusing that the new big guy said their device attracts human-faced monsters when Touka has probably killed all of the ones that were closest, no?

 

[groudonvert]

It's kind of amusing that the new big guy said their device attracts human-faced monsters when Touka has probably killed all of the ones that were closest, no?

Well they don't know about that.
And he didn't arrive in time to stop the earlier invasion.