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I'm pretty sure that she doesn't plan any faction against Ferdinand, and just accidentally put him instead of mayor, or maybe "anti-faction, as demanded by Ferdinand". And since in the next balloon she also said "anti-mayor faction", take care to not make her repeating the same twice.
 
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Thanks for the TLs as always.

Ferdinand trying his best to hold-in his impulses as a noble, to outright punish the mayor directly, while also using this situation as an opportunity to teach Myne more about the attitude a noble should have is great.
 
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Page 8 : "faction 'against' Ferdinand"

I'm pretty sure that she doesn't plan any faction against Ferdinand, and just accidentally put him instead of mayor, or maybe "anti-faction, as demanded by Ferdinand". And since in the next balloon she also said "anti-mayor faction", take care to not make her repeating the same twice.
The line should be about "earning points" from Ferdinand by promoting her Saint legend, which is one of the targets of Ferdinand to reinforce Myne's position as the Adopted Daughter of the Lord.
 
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Small clarification: High bishop is the top position, not high priest. Rozemyne does nominally have higher position than Ferdinand but she cannot really go against him for other reasons.

I don't remember if the tasks are explicitly stated but in short high priest handles day-to-day operations of temple while high bishop handles ceremonies.
 
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Small clarification: High bishop is the top position, not high priest. Rozemyne does nominally have higher position than Ferdinand but she cannot really go against him for other reasons.
That depends on the Official Translation group.
  • "J-Novel Club" for the Light Novel & the Manga, translated it as High Bishop & High Priest.
  • "Crunchyroll" for the Anime, translated it as High Priest & Head Priest.
 
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Page 8 : "faction 'against' Ferdinand"

I'm pretty sure that she doesn't plan any faction against Ferdinand, and just accidentally put him instead of mayor, or maybe "anti-faction, as demanded by Ferdinand". And since in the next balloon she also said "anti-mayor faction", take care to not make her repeating the same twice.
They're playing a role at the moment. The 'Ferdinand' faction here wants to wipe out the town and all inhabitants (The traditional noble response). She's creating an 'opposing' more tolerant noble faction (to further her saintly status) that only wants to punish those directly involved (The mayor and his inner circle).
The 'mayor' and 'anti-mayor' factions are commoner factions within Hasse
 
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"Can a silver cup really be that heavy!?"

Having read MUCH further into the series, going back and seeing these epic foreshadowing moments come out of nowhere is fantastic!
 
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Mayor: I’m good friends with the archduke s uncle

Ferdinand: this is the archdukes daughter and I’m his brother. Also, we killed his uncle



though this is one of my favorite moments in the light novel because of the phrasing.

“He climbed the towering stairway”. The mayor thought it meant retirement or a promotion which we all thought was dumb but that same phrase was used earlier in the LN to describe what happened to a different character and nobody caught it. I was still wondering what happened to them a dozen volumes later. The author put us in the mayor s shoes about not understanding noble euphemisms and I LOVED it
 
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Page 8 : "faction 'against' Ferdinand"

I'm pretty sure that she doesn't plan any faction against Ferdinand, and just accidentally put him instead of mayor, or maybe "anti-faction, as demanded by Ferdinand". And since in the next balloon she also said "anti-mayor faction", take care to not make her repeating the same twice.
The relevant line in the LN is
I want to earn points with Ferdinand by reinforcing my saint narrative while forming an opposing faction that wishes to cooperate with me, thereby minimizing casualties.
 
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Small clarification: High bishop is the top position, not high priest. Rozemyne does nominally have higher position than Ferdinand but she cannot really go against him for other reasons.

I don't remember if the tasks are explicitly stated but in short high priest handles day-to-day operations of temple while high bishop handles ceremonies.
The High Bishop has the highest status in the temple and ultimately is in charge. The High Priest is the administrative head who handles the day to day tasks. Since Rozemyne is still underage, Ferdinand does some of her High Bishop work and she in turn assists with his High Priest administrative work as his calculator.
 
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Mayor: I’m good friends with the archduke s uncle

Ferdinand: this is the archdukes daughter and I’m his brother. Also, we killed his uncle



though this is one of my favorite moments in the light novel because of the phrasing.

“He climbed the towering stairway”. The mayor thought it meant retirement or a promotion which we all thought was dumb but that same phrase was used earlier in the LN to describe what happened to a different character and nobody caught it. I was still wondering what happened to them a dozen volumes later. The author put us in the mayor s shoes about not understanding noble euphemisms and I LOVED it
IIRC, another euphemism that was used with that other character was "distanced". Which meant... what? That he'd been fired? Just ordered to be elsewhere when dealing with Myne? It also took a while for the shoe to drop.
 
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IIRC, the official LN and manga translator directly talked with the author about these issues, so they should indeed be used.
That depends on the Official Translation group.
  • J-Novel for the Light Novel & the Manga, translated it as High Bishop & High Priest.
  • Crunchyroll for the Anime, translated it as High Priest & Head Priest.
This is my understanding as well.
 
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That depends on the Official Translation group.
  • J-Novel for the Light Novel & the Manga, translated it as High Bishop & High Priest.
  • Crunchyroll for the Anime, translated it as High Priest & Head Priest.
I think a literal translation would be "Chief of the Temple" and "Chief of the Priests".
 
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The relevant line in the LN is "I want to earn points with Ferdinand by reinforcing my saint narrative while forming an opposing faction that wishes to cooperate with me, thereby minimizing casualties."
Myne playing good-cop-bad-cop (with the collaboration of Ferdinand, of course) is a thing of beauty.
 
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Mayor: I’m good friends with the archduke s uncle

Ferdinand: this is the archdukes daughter and I’m his brother. Also, we killed his uncle



though this is one of my favorite moments in the light novel because of the phrasing.

“He climbed the towering stairway”. The mayor thought it meant retirement or a promotion which we all thought was dumb but that same phrase was used earlier in the LN to describe what happened to a different character and nobody caught it. I was still wondering what happened to them a dozen volumes later. The author put us in the mayor s shoes about not understanding noble euphemisms and I LOVED it
I noticed that it's a relatively common euphemism in japan but a really uncommon one in english speaking countries, so i had a hell of a time trying to find a common, equivalent euphemism in english that could also be confused for retirement by someone who'd never heard it. thankfully my mom came thru with one she heard all her life in the southern US :3
 
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I noticed that it's a relatively common euphemism in japan but a really uncommon one in english speaking countries, so i had a hell of a time trying to find a common, equivalent euphemism in english that could also be confused for retirement by someone who'd never heard it. thankfully my mom came thru with one she heard all her life in the southern US :3
"Bought the farm" could be roughly equivalent, although that one's so ingrained in English that it might confusion among readers as to why the mayor didn't understand.
 
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At this point, I didn’t understand the implication and was like “A BLUE PRIEST IS A NOBLE”

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Until further into the story that I get to understand how different they’re. And I blame the civil war that returns blue priests back to the noble society, blurring their definition to me, the reader.
 
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I noticed that it's a relatively common euphemism in japan but a really uncommon one in english speaking countries, so i had a hell of a time trying to find a common, equivalent euphemism in english that could also be confused for retirement by someone who'd never heard it. thankfully my mom came thru with one she heard all her life in the southern US :3

Honestly I think it's fine to leave it as it originally was, after all the noble euphemisms ARE meant to be foreign so that even Myne herself is confused about their meanings at times.

Also I believe her hiring soldiers is only for escorting the greys (from the monastery) back, since there's no blue priest living there.

let there be rain, of blood

Just ashes/dust 'sadly'

It IS part of the public execution though, so there's that at least.

Myne playing good-cop-bad-cop (with the collaboration of Ferdinand, of course) is a thing of beauty.

It gets better when sometimes SHE pulls the bad-cop and Ferdinand has to be the one holding her back because he knows she's not acting in those cases.
 

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